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Anyone interested in a group buy of l4d2? $37.50/ea

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I see there's a 4 pack of l4d2 available for $150 on steam. That would be $37.50 each plus whatever paypal fees there are. Anyone interested?


No group buys, if you don't have it in your posession you can't sell it. Steam doesn't allow the sale of their content so you are SOL here.
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videopho said:
I played L4D and liked it although the game was little short.
Is this sequel worth playing for $40?
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Without starting a argument about it, no its not. If you play the demo, its clearly the same exact game, with an update.... However I never bought the first one due to horrible matchmaking. I was considering getting the second since I never bought the first. If I had bought the first, I probably wouldnt be buying it.

The only issue I have with it, they screwed over PC gaming communities again with the matchmaking BS.

As I said, I still may be buying l4d2.
 
Fallengod said:
Without starting a argument about it, no its not.
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Without starting an argument, you're wrong. The new game is every way more immersive and fluid than the original. The missions seem more alive and real world, and the new melee and ammo based weapons add a dimension to the sequel that the first game only hinted at. The new infected are great and really shake up some of the glitch defense methods that people used in the first game like stacking.

Could they have made this DLC? Maybe, I don't doubt it, but I guess you can make anything DLC if you really wanted to. But I wouldn't expect them to make L4D2 DLC for L4D1 any more than I would expect Assassin's Creed 2 to come out as DLC for the first game. They have genuinely added a significant amount of content and playtime to the L4D formula, and changed it up and added enough to the gameplay that it's completely worth the price of admission.

PC gamers have become whiny elitists, expecting companies like Valve to put work that took thousands of man hours to create and just hand it to them on a silver platter. Honestly, it's sickening, and it's probably not completely unrelated to why most developers and publishers keep migrating away from the PC.

As someone who loves PC gaming in the face of constant sub-par and lazy game ports, I can appreciate that Valve is still at least making an effort to give PC gamers what they want, when they easily sell 2-3 times the number of copies on that console they've started developing for. I can easily see them pulling a Tim Schafer next cycle and ignoring us completely given the vocal minority out there that never have anything positive to say about great games like Left4Dead 2.
 
Just a heads up, I know this isn't the Hot deals section, but Gamestop is selling Left 4 Dead 2 for the pc for $29.99 Black Friday and Saturday.

Might be a better deal to visit Gamespot on Saturday and pick it up then do a 4pack.
 
Fallengod said:
Without starting a argument about it, no its not. If you play the demo, its clearly the same exact game, with an update.... However I never bought the first one due to horrible matchmaking. I was considering getting the second since I never bought the first. If I had bought the first, I probably wouldnt be buying it.

The only issue I have with it, they screwed over PC gaming communities again with the matchmaking BS.

As I said, I still may be buying l4d2.
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Super duper ignorant...

A. L4D isn't a large enough multiplayer game (4 or 8 players) to merit a traditional connection method, the lobby system is perfectly acceptable and is arguably better than a traditional server browser because the game isn't as fun for players to casually come and go like other games.

B. if you take 1 minute to look online you can learn that its incredibly easy to access the traditional server browser if that's what you so desire. Another couple minutes and you can actually mod your game to include a server browser button on your main menu screen.

C. anyone that actually bothers to invest their time in to L4D will likely have access to their own private server and will be able to access it directly

D. 4 vs. 4 team match making (matching individual lobbies of 4 friends) was recently added to L4D1 and is also in L4D2 (and works with either the standard Vs. play or the new Scavenge mode)
 
Just got it and played it with my friend back home last night, and it was crazy good fun. And a boatload more difficult than the original. IMO.
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bunnyfubbles said:
Super duper ignorant...

A. L4D isn't a large enough multiplayer game (4 or 8 players) to merit a traditional connection method, the lobby system is perfectly acceptable and is arguably better than a traditional server browser because the game isn't as fun for players to casually come and go like other games.

B. if you take 1 minute to look online you can learn that its incredibly easy to access the traditional server browser if that's what you so desire. Another couple minutes and you can actually mod your game to include a server browser button on your main menu screen.

C. anyone that actually bothers to invest their time in to L4D will likely have access to their own private server and will be able to access it directly

D. 4 vs. 4 team match making (matching individual lobbies of 4 friends) was recently added to L4D1 and is also in L4D2 (and works with either the standard Vs. play or the new Scavenge mode)
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How is it super duper ignorant? Anyways. Youre wrong.

A. Umm what? Sure it is big enough. In case you are less experienced, one of the main points why the more experienced people dislike matchmaking system is it makes it hard to build a community around the game. IE. Server admins and communties who get thousands of dollars a month from donors and regulars etc, it makes it hard to have a well known popular server. With matchmaking, you have no control over that other than steam group connects and directly connecting to the server. Also....people can still come and go easily with the current system, so I have no idea what youre talking about there. The lobby system could still exist if they had traditional methods here.......

B. Yes, you can mod it. This doesnt change the fact. Having it set at a particular default will have an impact whether or not you can change it.

C. Own private server? Ok so? That wasnt my point anyways.

D. OK, refer to answer A. My entire point is, l4d2 is just l4d1 with a few changes. Its blatantly obvious they could have added all of it to l4d1, but they decided to go the money route. There are people who bought L4D1 who were promised new content and crap, and never got it. Why? Cause they had this plan the whole time. This would be comparable to if they had released the TF2 new weapons/maps/etc as TF3.

Im just saying. Probably best not to highjack this poor guys thread any more though. 😛
 
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Fallengod said:
Without starting a argument about it, no its not. If you play the demo, its clearly the same exact game, with an update.... However I never bought the first one due to horrible matchmaking. I was considering getting the second since I never bought the first. If I had bought the first, I probably wouldnt be buying it.

The only issue I have with it, they screwed over PC gaming communities again with the matchmaking BS.

As I said, I still may be buying l4d2.
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you do realize it's possible using console to open a server browser identical to the one in CS, right?

edit: i just confirmed it's possible to do this in the l4d2 demo, so i assume it's also possible in the main game.

if that's your main problem with them game, it's an invalid complaint.
 
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Fallengod said:
Without starting a argument about it, no its not. If you play the demo, its clearly the same exact game, with an update.... However I never bought the first one due to horrible matchmaking. I was considering getting the second since I never bought the first. If I had bought the first, I probably wouldnt be buying it.

The only issue I have with it, they screwed over PC gaming communities again with the matchmaking BS.

As I said, I still may be buying l4d2.
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None of this is correct.

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I'll address one of your points from above because the rest of that post is so full of fail that it's going to make my hair and teeth fall out just from reading it.

A. Umm what? Sure it is big enough. In case you are less experienced, one of the main points why the more experienced people dislike matchmaking system is it makes it hard to build a community around the game. IE. Server admins and communties who get thousands of dollars a month from donors and regulars etc, it makes it hard to have a well known popular server. With matchmaking, you have no control over that other than steam group connects and directly connecting to the server. Also....people can still come and go easily with the current system, so I have no idea what youre talking about there. The lobby system could still exist if they had traditional methods here.......
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There are eight people per server. Eight. Building a community around an 8 person server is an absolutely ludicrous idea that would be impossible in any game at all. Who gives a damn if you have a "well known and popular server?" With only eight slots total (four if it's not a versus server) only a small number of people are going to play on it anyhow

Not only that, Left4Dead does not at all gel with the drop-in, drop-out style of Counterstrike, DOD, TF2 and so forth. A full campaign takes about an hour to complete, not counting the time you have to wait for a slot to repopulate if someone drops out.

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The problem isn't L4D2, it's L4D1.

It's way short, I played through all four "campaigns" in 1 night on hardest. The game did not retain my interest with any significant replay value and yet it was sold at the same pricepoint at what I will call more "complete" games.

Combine that with the short timespan before the release of L4D2 and people are left wondering why they bought L4D1.
 
lord_emperor said:
The problem isn't L4D2, it's L4D1.

It's way short, I played through all four "campaigns" in 1 night on hardest. The game did not retain my interest with any significant replay value and yet it was sold at the same pricepoint at what I will call more "complete" games.

Combine that with the short timespan before the release of L4D2 and people are left wondering why they bought L4D1.
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What about the people who liked it? I mean I bought Counter Strike Source and I played threw all the included maps in about an hour. I still play L4D, same as I still play CS:S. I think with neare record pre-order numbers on L4D2 not too many people are wondering why they bought the first one. L4D1 even had some free DLC content since it's came out and I might even still have more even after L4D2 comes out.
 
lord_emperor said:
The problem isn't L4D2, it's L4D1.

It's way short, I played through all four "campaigns" in 1 night on hardest. The game did not retain my interest with any significant replay value and yet it was sold at the same pricepoint at what I will call more "complete" games.

Combine that with the short timespan before the release of L4D2 and people are left wondering why they bought L4D1.
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L4D2 has 5 campaigns.

10 minutes into Dead Center I knew it was worth the full price. The AI Director is much more brutal this time around, and the spitter alone adds a new dimension to the game that it didn't have before.

I honestly question if you played it all given that you didn't know how many campaigns there are, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just say you're wrong.

Maybe your biggest problem is the 1 year development time between the 2 games. There are a lot of annually released game franchises that bring a lot less to the table than L4D2 did over L4D1. Environmental effects and weather alone make this game a hugely different experience than the first title.

Personally, if Valve announced a L4D3 for November of 2010, I would be like "Hell yeah!" just based on what I've seen in L4D2.
 
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lord_emperor said:
The problem isn't L4D2, it's L4D1.

It's way short, I played through all four "campaigns" in 1 night on hardest. The game did not retain my interest with any significant replay value and yet it was sold at the same pricepoint at what I will call more "complete" games.

Combine that with the short timespan before the release of L4D2 and people are left wondering why they bought L4D1.
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Just wait for L4D3 next September. Fool me once...
 
Just a warning to you guys but I don't think group buys are allowed in this forum anymore ever since that incident where some people got ripped off in a Radeon 64meg deal some years back. Maybe the rules have changed but i'm pretty sure your not supposed to discuss these things on AT anymore (anyways this would have to go in the FS/FT forum or hot deals at least).

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This thread specifically states no group buys so I guess that rule still stands.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2480
 
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