Anyone here Japanese or Korean? How do households manage to make so many small side dishes?

fuzzybabybunny

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I'm not sure if Japanese or Korean households even do this, but thought I'd ask.

Lots of Japanese or Korean restaurants give you 8+ different little side dishes to have with your main meal. These are always really small, like one potato cut up into several pieces. And all the side dishes are different but equally as small.

Do actual households do this for family meals, or is this only a restaurant thing?

From a home cook perspective, this would appear to be incredibly difficult to do, especially if you're living by yourself or only have a small nuclear family of 3 or 4. There's no way a single home cook can make the following distinct and separate side dishes for three people at each meal:

Three potatoes cooked one way.
Half a cucumber in another way.
A quarter of a pumpkin.
A pint of macaroni salad.
A quarter of a an eggplant.
A quarter of a daikon, shredded.
A handful of seasoned soybean sprouts.
A cup of cooked spinach.
etc.
Plus the main entree.

It's just too much work to make so many small dishes for so few people. Compare this to a typical western meal which would be a main protein, a starch, and zero to two vegetable sides.

The only conceivable methods to be able to do this at home is to:

- buy a lot of these things canned and use as you go
- make a "normal" amount of each dish (ex. a whole eggplant and nine potatos) and then store them in the fridge and use them across the following three or four days, but this means the food is rarely fresh except for on the first day

What do traditional Japanese or Korean households do?

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The reason why I ask this is because I'm trying to take care of my mom who just had surgery. She is extremely traditional Chinese and has a very very very narrow array of foods that she will eat, and almost all of them must be homemade. To call her "picky" is a massive understatement.

She comes from a huge family and growing up she would have family meals consisting of 8-10 different dishes. For a huge family this level of variety is achievable.

We've only got three people in our family - my mom, dad, and me - and my mom is out of action.

If we give her four different dishes she will lose her appetite and literally only eat a mouthful of each dish or even less, and on top of that she'll complain that the nutrition isn't "complete" because you can only have complete nutrition when you've got a wide variety of different foods, the whole rainbow of colors, yadda yadda

When we put in the work and crank out 8-10 different dishes for a single meal, she'll eat a mouthful or two of each dish. But she loses her appetite in the following days because we're just eating the leftovers from the 8-10 dishes that we made previously. Cooking and sourcing all the different ingredients for her is literally a full time job. My dad is in the kitchen all hours of the day, cleaning veggies, prepping, cooking, etc. My dad and I have to find a better way to do this. My mom doesn't care - all she knows is that if she sees only four different dishes she won't feel like eating, especially if one of the dishes turns out to be subpar.

An example of dishes in just ONE meal:

- Chinese stir fried tomatoes and eggs
- boiled gai lan with garlic
- stir fried bok choy
- stir fried bean sprouts
- stir fried spinach
- stir fried bitter melon
- stir fried bean curd with julienned pork and ginger
- red-cooked braised pork (hong shao rou)
- steamed fish
- white rice

Just the time spent washing and picking out the dead leaves from all the different veggies is time consuming. And then we end up with massive amounts of leftovers that no one wants to eat after a day or two and a lot of waste and we end up cooking more food even on the days we have tons of leftovers (that no one wants to eat anymore).
 
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PJFrylar

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I can't speak for actual Japanese or Korean households as I do not belong to one, but I think it makes a bit more sense when you look at dishes like Bibimbap. It's a Korean dish that is basically rice + mixed leftovers = delicious.
 

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They use a lot of pre-prepared and fermented foods (don't require cooking), and dishes that require less cooking time (many types of noodles for instance cook in under 10 minutes). Western full course meals generally take more time per dish.
 
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kimchi always on hand
raw veggies either plain, pickled, or with a simple sauce. easy to make
never seen cooked potatoes or some of that other weird stuff you mentioned

restaurants obviously have an easier way and can do more

but they also put more effort in, just like every culture other than american
 

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kimchi always on hand
raw veggies either plain, pickled, or with a simple sauce. easy to make
never seen cooked potatoes or some of that other weird stuff you mentioned

restaurants obviously have an easier way and can do more

but they also put more effort in, just like every culture other than american

This is true, to a degree (obviously it's different for high end restaurants). Indian cooking for example often has a lot of side dishes like Korean or Japanese cooking does, and it can take time for the home cook and can be pretty involving to do a full course meal. What saves time are preparing spice mixes (e.g. masalas), pickles, doughs for (flat)breads, etc in bulk and in advance when possible, and before the meal it's really only a couple of dishes that are prepared simultaneously.

Most vegetable side dishes don't take long from cooking (if any) to serving. A few minutes to steam or saute spinach with seasoning. Chop/cut everything that requires it at one time, and refrigerate after.
 
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They use a lot of pre-prepared and fermented foods (don't require cooking), and dishes that require less cooking time (many types of noodles for instance cook in under 10 minutes). Western full course meals generally take more time per dish.

Fermented foods is probably something I should have added into my little "equation." In the case of Bibimbap pastes like gochujang and kimchi are common. I really like the stone bowl versions of Bibimbap. The taste of crispy/burnt rice is really good to me for whatever reason.
 

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So it's not very often that Japanese or Korean households cook these small side dishes from scratch? A large portion of them are pickled and fermented (served cold) and the remaining stuff are cold (easy to whip up) or really simple hot items?

I ask because my mom doesn't eat any pickled or fermented stuff.

An example of dishes in just ONE meal:

- Chinese stir fried tomatoes and eggs
- boiled gai lan with garlic
- stir fried bok choy
- stir fried bean sprouts
- stir fried spinach
- stir fried bitter melon
- stir fried bean curd with julienned pork and ginger
- red-cooked braised pork (hong shao rou)
- steamed fish
- white rice

Just the time spent washing and picking out the dead leaves from all the different veggies is time consuming. And then we end up with massive amounts of leftovers that no one wants to eat after a day or two and a lot of waste and we end up cooking more food even on the days we have tons of leftovers (that no one wants to eat anymore).
 

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Why don't you ask your Mom how she does it?
She usually cooks with my dad, but the result is the same - lots of leftovers that no one wants to eat. If they want fewer leftovers, they need to cook more, and they don't want that either, so they just live with cooking together and having lots of waste, or my dad forcing himself to finish off old food because he doesn't like to see food go to waste.

This is one of the reasons I've always hated coming back to my parents' place. The food is only Chinese and it's almost never fresh.

Basically the combination of my mom's requirement to have 8-10 different dishes plus her requirement of having non-fermented, non-pickled foods makes life difficult for a small family.
 

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The supermarkets here have plenty of pre-cut and/or pre-prepped vegetables and meat.