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Squisher

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Vinyl has traditionally lasted about 150 plays before the sound starts to degrade. I have no idea if today's vinyl is better or worse than what I was buying 20 years ago and I've never tried the wood glue trick. I have about 75 albums and a Dual 1215 in my sound system. I'm embarrassed to say it's been over a year since I spun one.
 
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Here's the thing about albums vs. any other sort of medium:

1) They only hold 30 or less minutes of music per side, and it's not easy to skip songs. This kind of "forced" you to listen to songs that you normally wouldn't have listened to after hearing the first 10 seconds. After doing this several times, you become comfortable with these songs and begin to like them. This is why there are so many albums full of hits from the 50's - 70's.

2) The 12" record cover is the perfect size for artwork. Album art has created some of the most iconic images in history, and due to ever-shrinking mediums and streaming, this source of art is being lost. Why bother having an artist create something that's going to show up as a 2x2 jpg on someone's phone that they're going to look at for 3 seconds before putting it back in their pocket?

3) Lyric sheets in albums were awesome- you could read along with with the songs, and the liners sometimes had additional art or messages. An album was the original form of multi-media.

1. Totally disagree with your "you start to like them". Now, I won't dispute that modern music has a focus on singles, however I'd actually argue that podcasts are showing it absolutely has nothing to do with being forced by technological limitations that is the issue. I'd say that its because people have much more varied tastes, lots of more opportunity to be exposed to a much larger amount of artists (essentially you're going "back in the day we had to go and spend what we could on just a few albums, and so we had to listen to them and like them because otherwise we didn't have music to listen to"). I do lament the "next big thing" mentality a lot of people have where if you discuss music, it's like they're constantly going oh that's old news, have you checked out ___?" where it's like a contest to see who can mention the most obscure band, but that's quite easy to ignore. Simply put, regardless of era, there just aren't that many good entire albums. Due to the nature of culture, we'll remember the good ones more, they'll get passed on, which is why if you look at what people tend to have that's older, it tends to be better because its not worth keeping the bad stuff around for most people.

2. I hate this argument too. Even though the sleeves are actually my favorite aspect of vinyl, we have even more mediums for art, including ones that vastly outdo chintzy sleeves (that are prone to wearing poorly). I'd actually argue that music now is wider in its artistic medium. Few people can make a good living based solely on their musical ability, they have to be adept performers (pop acts with elaborate routines and costumes/etc) or need to be able to integrate their music into other mediums (TV, movies, video games). But even talking about tangible assets, there's no reason why they can't offer that, which is why we see more elaborate physical releases these days. I also think with VR and AR we're going to see a return to like the 60s and 70s, with people like Bowie, prog-rock, concept albums, and things of that nature, where the music will just be the core to a whole artistic expression. And needless to say that live stuff could be taken to a whole new level.

Oh and also now there's a lot of fan art, and a lot of it handily outdoes the typical album covers we used to get. There's even tons of "iconic" album covers that I just cringe at how bad they actually are (not that there aren't tons of bad ones to this day). Now there's a lot more ability to change that. Heck if you want you could make your own sleeves too. That was much less feasible back then.

3. That's weird, because last I checked, the internet and lyrics databases and media players that can display the lyrics while the song plays exist. I'm really baffled that you're seriously trying to make this argument. I remember that being actually more prevalent with CDs too.

Ultimately the reason I hate these type of arguments is that, your arguments have nothing to actually do with the medium. There is literally no technological reason that you can't do all of that. I regularly listen to albums and long continuous music sessions where it flows together or I listen to stuff that I can skip when I'm just wanting quick hit of a certain band or music. You can make entire albums a single file if you want. You control how intimate or shared your music is. You can talk about music more easily, you can share it easily, you can be exposed to other music more easily. Or if you just want to stick with what you like, you can do that too. I'm not arguing that you shouldn't be free to listen like you want. If you want to delude yourself that vinyl is more "pure" or have some odd love for the "ritual" of records, knock yourself out. Just stop trying to pretend that it is inherently better by arguing that its limitations (which you can freely force on yourself if you want to with non-vinyl) make it better. The point being you have control over your listening far more than ever. I don't understand how anyone can argue that is a bad thing. Likewise, artists themselves now have more control than ever over their work, so its not like you can't have both.
 

homebrew2ny

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I started collecting about 20 years ago and have amassed a bit over 200 albums from the classic rock era (60's & 70's). Almost all of them are in mint unplayed/very little play condition or still sealed, and all are original first pressings (or very close).

I am quite proud of the collection to be honest, and at least once a month make time to listen to them.

On a side note, they are worth 10 to 20 times what I have invested in them currently and am finding it hard not to let some go...
 

tynopik

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Aug 10, 2004
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Vinyl has traditionally lasted about 150 plays before the sound starts to degrade

that's why all the cool kids now use laser turntables

connected to a tube amp of course for that authentic analog sound
 

Thebobo

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I suppose I am, I basically buy on the criteria of it being an album that I really love and has held up to repeated listenings, or pre-orders for newer artists that I really like. I haven't counted recently, but I doubt I have more than 75 or so. Most recent acquisition was Bob Marley - Legend (Amazon had it on sale for $7).
Currently just listening on a Stanton turntable that was on sale a few years ago, after I move I may get a Pro-Ject.

NPR just had Ziggy on talking about his dad and a newly remixed version of Legend. Ziggy has a thick jamaican dialect, was cool to hear him tell stories of growing up.
 

Crotulus

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I've collected a couple hundred vinyl albums. Haven't bought a CD in years since most everything gets a vinyl issue now. Records that don't come with a digital download or Amazon AutoRip get digitized for playing in the car.

I run a Pro-Ject Xpression with acrylic platter and electronic speed controller. Current cartridge is an Ortofon 2M Blue. Turntable is then connected to a Lounge Audio LCR phono amp. This goes to a Yamaha receiver powering a pair of NHT ST4.
 

bruceb

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Aug 20, 2004
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Not really a collector, but we probably have about 4 dozen or so albums from the 50's / 60's / 70's era ... most are probably still in very playable condition.
 

Charmonium

Lifer
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I grew up listening to records and the first time I heard a cd player, I was almost shocked. It sounded so tinny and metalic. Not literally but the sound felt sharp. It's hard to explain. It was too clean.

I suspect that being one of the first it probably had some issues that were later resolved. I continued with my records for a few years longer. By the time we had converted to cd's we'd also graduated to high speed internet, well, dsl anyway. So it was easier and often cheaper to download whatever you wanted to listen to. The only exceptions were when a band was particularly obscure.

In some ways I miss the ritual of playing albums. You had to clean the platter, maybe de-static it, open the lid, place the record on the turntable, close the lid. Then when you were done, you had to gingerly pick the record up by the edges and slide it back into its jacket. You also had to flip it halfway through. That served to demarcate the different parts of the recording.

I also miss the album art. They tried to recreate this with cd's for a while but it never worked. With albums you could spend hours looking at the art, some of which was pretty intricate.
 

thebestMAX

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Sep 14, 2000
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Still have my Technics SL-1300 turntable with Audio Technica cartridge with shibata stylus.
Have about a 48" wide shelf of 331/3 albums from the 70s and 80s and lost at least 2x that many to Exes.

Still collect, no, but prefer them and my old reel to reel tape and even tape cartridges to CDs.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Also the prices for lp's are insane imo, not paying over $30 (or was it 25?) for an lp here in Canada....
 

JM Aggie08

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Jan 3, 2006
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Literally everything, Beatles, Hendrix, Elvis, colored vinyl, rare album covers, you name it, my Dad probably had it. She's in Florida, the records take up nearly an entire room in her house. My Dad was a musician and spent his entire life teaching music, collecting music and playing music.

The collection will not be broken up though. She is selling it complete. $40k and it's yours.

Doh! Yea, I don't think I'd be able to convince the wife of that :D That's a damn impressive collection, though.
 

JM Aggie08

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Jan 3, 2006
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I certainly go for the 'quality not quantity' approach for collecting, with the exception of what we've inherited (that said, I did have to toss some stuff on account of being far too damaged).

For those who still buy, I'd highly recommend Discogs for buying/selling. Generally, folks on there actually care about maintaining their collection, vs buying from Ebay/some lower end record stores. At the very least, it's certainly helped me catalog my collection -- this has certainly been helpful when friends/family come over and want to spin something.
 

Bird222

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Jun 7, 2004
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Yeah, I'm going to pass on the $10K turntable. What do you guys recommend for a turntable?
 

Carson Dyle

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Jul 2, 2012
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At the low end, a Rega P1 is a great value. Comes with a tonearm and cartridge for under $500.
 

Oyeve

Lifer
Oct 18, 1999
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Yeah, I'm going to pass on the $10K turntable. What do you guys recommend for a turntable?
Any sub 200 buck turntable will sound just as good as a 500+ TT. It all comes down to the cartridge and stylus. Don't skimp on that.
 

effowe

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Nov 1, 2004
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Vinyl

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Messy Setup

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2x Technics 1200 mk2's
1 Rane TTM-56
Serato SL3

Collecting since the late 90's.
 

JM Aggie08

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Jan 3, 2006
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Yeah, I'm going to pass on the $10K turntable. What do you guys recommend for a turntable?

Highly recommend the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC. The U-Turn Orbit was a close second.

Those are both belt-driven -- you may want to do some research to decide what style TT you'd prefer.
 

bigboxes

Lifer
Apr 6, 2002
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I stopped buying vinyl in 1987. Still have 250+. Never play them any longer as I have acquired everything on digital. Of course, the vinyl means a lot more to me than CDs and even more so than digital. But it's a matter of convenience. Still have my linear tracking turntable hooked up to my Denon. It had the ability to skip tracks and was programmable. Trippy to think about it all. There's something about watching the record spin around and the needle dragging through that groove.