Anyone here being treated for ADD/ADHD

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: paruhd0x
I myself have been diagnosed ADD since I was 8 years old. (I'm 19 now) I think drugging your kid because of ADD is the wrong thing to do. You need to setup better learning enviroments in order for the kid to be successful. If he is easily distracted, take away the distractions and sit with him and help him with his work. Better education/teachers/enviroment/willing parents >>>>> drugs.

You win. Here's a scooby snack.

:beer::light::beer:

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Cerb
...why is that? Coffee = good. That reminds me: when I get done reading this I'll be off roasting some.

Caffiene creates an ADD-like effect in normal people. In people with ADD it can have very random effects but almost always causes them to get so damn hyper you want to kill them. Hell, when I get on caffiene I want to kill me.

Well, I'm one of the good randoms, then. My hands get a touch shaky, but coffee is the only thing that can get me sitting still and keeping on one train of thought. If I get bored I'm still screwed, but without coffee, I can't listen and write at the same time (not good for lectures, ya know?).

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Cerb
...why is that? Coffee = good. That reminds me: when I get done reading this I'll be off roasting some.

Caffiene creates an ADD-like effect in normal people. In people with ADD it can have very random effects but almost always causes them to get so damn hyper you want to kill them. Hell, when I get on caffiene I want to kill me.

Well, I'm one of the good randoms, then. My hands get a touch shaky, but coffee is the only thing that can get me sitting still and keeping on one train of thought. If I get bored I'm still screwed, but without coffee, I can't listen and write at the same time (not good for lectures, ya know?).

Same with me... It's us ADD'ers self-medicating. I'm ADHD, and so is my son. (I didn't know I was until we took my son in to get diagnosed... Dr turned to me and asked the same questions. LoL I thought I was just lazy/disorganized/easily bored/spaz). I drink gallons of coffee just to be able to sit in this fvcking cubicle all day. Nice thing about my son's changing medications every so often is I get the leftovers. heh (I can't afford the Dr visits and the medicine for both of us, so he gets it and I deal with it).

The thing about sugars I mentioned above: I'll post the book info when I get home. But in the meantime, as kids get older, the brain is conditioned to react a certain way to sugars and carbs. So if you have a Diet DrPepper, the brain will react the same way even though it's got no sugar. Because it's so used to that trigger of sweet flavor = sugar to the brain.

Sugar actually makes me lethargic. Just like caffeine. Self medicating.

If you're really concerned, I've heard that the electroshock therapy works very well. I won't do it to my son. When he's 18 if he wants to he can, but I won't pressure him or let him be pressured into doing it because if FRIGGIN HURTS! But it seems to work, so that may be an option.

And those of you saying ADD's a non-disease: Partially true. The school's first thing when my son was in 1st grade was "Ritalin!" I said "FVCK NO!". We actually waited 2 more years (well, not waiting, but trying everything else we possibly could) before we gave in and tried medication. I'm sure there are plenty of parents looking for an easy fix to an easy child who said "SURE!" the first time. Sigh.

My wife and I are cobbling together a theory that hadn't occured to us until our daughter was born in June. The baby formula makers are selling a new formulation with Omega 3's: known to help brain function. When I was a baby (born in 1970) many Dr's were telling parents that formula was BETTER than breastfeeding. So my mom fed me formula. My son had to have formula due to an illness my wife had right after giving birth. But she's able to breast feed my daughter now (NO PICS!!! Fvcking pervs!), and I'd be willing to bet serious money that she grows up without any sign of ADD...

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
My wife and I are cobbling together a theory that hadn't occured to us until our daughter was born in June. The baby formula makers are selling a new formulation with Omega 3's: known to help brain function. When I was a baby (born in 1970) many Dr's were telling parents that formula was BETTER than breastfeeding. So my mom fed me formula. My son had to have formula due to an illness my wife had right after giving birth. But she's able to breast feed my daughter now (NO PICS!!! Fvcking pervs!), and I'd be willing to bet serious money that she grows up without any sign of ADD...

I was breast fed as a child, no formula. My little brother was the one who got formula on occasion. I'm ADD and he isn't. Of course these are only 2 cases....

 

[yukichigai]

Stupid double post. I hate my work's new proxy server crap.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Cerb
...why is that? Coffee = good. That reminds me: when I get done reading this I'll be off roasting some.

Caffiene creates an ADD-like effect in normal people. In people with ADD it can have very random effects but almost always causes them to get so damn hyper you want to kill them. Hell, when I get on caffiene I want to kill me.

Well, I'm one of the good randoms, then. My hands get a touch shaky, but coffee is the only thing that can get me sitting still and keeping on one train of thought. If I get bored I'm still screwed, but without coffee, I can't listen and write at the same time (not good for lectures, ya know?).

Same with me... It's us ADD'ers self-medicating. I'm ADHD, and so is my son. (I didn't know I was until we took my son in to get diagnosed... Dr turned to me and asked the same questions. LoL I thought I was just lazy/disorganized/easily bored/spaz). I drink gallons of coffee just to be able to sit in this fvcking cubicle all day. Nice thing about my son's changing medications every so often is I get the leftovers. heh (I can't afford the Dr visits and the medicine for both of us, so he gets it and I deal with it).

The thing about sugars I mentioned above: I'll post the book info when I get home. But in the meantime, as kids get older, the brain is conditioned to react a certain way to sugars and carbs. So if you have a Diet DrPepper, the brain will react the same way even though it's got no sugar. Because it's so used to that trigger of sweet flavor = sugar to the brain.

Sugar actually makes me lethargic. Just like caffeine. Self medicating.

Actually, caffiene has no lethargic affect on me, though sugar does, after the initial sugar rush. I'm not sure about caffiene from various things having different affects, though, as aside from coffee, you generally don't get caffiene w/o lots of sugar.

If you're really concerned, I've heard that the electroshock therapy works very well. I won't do it to my son. When he's 18 if he wants to he can, but I won't pressure him or let him be pressured into doing it because if FRIGGIN HURTS! But it seems to work, so that may be an option.

Yeah, but there's also people who experience memory loss and such from it. I'd personally stay away from it.

And those of you saying ADD's a non-disease: Partially true. The school's first thing when my son was in 1st grade was "Ritalin!" I said "FVCK NO!". We actually waited 2 more years (well, not waiting, but trying everything else we possibly could) before we gave in and tried medication. I'm sure there are plenty of parents looking for an easy fix to an easy child who said "SURE!" the first time. Sigh.

My wife and I are cobbling together a theory that hadn't occured to us until our daughter was born in June. The baby formula makers are selling a new formulation with Omega 3's: known to help brain function. When I was a baby (born in 1970) many Dr's were telling parents that formula was BETTER than breastfeeding. So my mom fed me formula. My son had to have formula due to an illness my wife had right after giving birth. But she's able to breast feed my daughter now (NO PICS!!! Fvcking pervs!), and I'd be willing to bet serious money that she grows up without any sign of ADD...

Breast feeding probably does affect it, but it depends on how much of it is or was that to begin with--it may be enough genetically that it won't matter....'cause you know there is a gene that causes it, and it goes back to a good 50k BC.
However, I would not be suprised if diets in general have a lot to do with it. Since around WW II (though it did start ealier), we've quickly moved from 'real' foods and ingredients to where we are now, where its near impossible to find flour that isn't enriched.