Anyone here Anti-SUV?

[Windogg]

Say whatever you think WorkSmith, I got my X5 because it's the safest vehicle I could get. I am not willing to put a price on me or my loved ones. I am just trying to stay safe from maniacs like AlienWho

 

[Texmaster]

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<< I AGREE! SUVs Should be BANNED!!

But dont stop there!

Why do people need really fast computers?? They dont really NEED that speed to run what they do and they use a lot of energy going it! Lets Ban All PCs over 1ghz that way everyone is Equal!

And what about houses? Rich people use more energy in bigger houses! Lets Ban all houses above a certain height! Yeah! :disgust:

This is AMERICA not AMERIKA. We have freedoms here. I myself HATE SUVs. I hate the feel and the look. But that doesn't give me the right to keep someone else from buying one!

this is what you get from people who grew up being Spoonfed by the Socialists for 8 years.

Money BAD!
Rich people EVIL!
Tax Refund EVIL!!
Freedom of Choice EVIL!!
Must PUNISH those who make more than ME!!

Spare me. >>



LOL, Texmaster. Just found my new signature... >>




HAHAHA Glad I could help

 

[SirFshAlot]

Freejack,

yeah, I went to the lot and actually looked at a Suburu WRX as a consideration.

What an ugly POS, IMO, but....to each their own.

SUV's are for going off road. If you live on dirt or gravel roads and have a family, go offroading every weekend, or carry heavy cargo that needs to be kept at room temp, then a SUV is for you

hmmmm

where is this set of consumer buying restrictions kept?

what is wrong with a person buying what they like, rather than what you want them to like?




remember, a policeman has a gun that spends most of it's life dormant in a holster, yet a wise person doesn't consider the gun useless

 

[Texmaster]

<< Guess the topic of this thread should be changed to &quot;Anyone here Anti-morondriver?&quot; How about it? >>



Only one Problem. Everyone has been a moron on the road at some point in their life.

If you haven't yet just give it a second...

 

[SirFshAlot]

WordSmith2000,

If you want to pay 40,000 for a 20,000 car, go ahead. Just remember to smoke a ciggie afterwards, cuz you just got fscked

Of course you have never payed 100 percent, or more, markup on anything, have you?
Of course not, not you.
You're much too bright for that.

 

[Viperoni]

If you bought a pair of speakers over $300 you've pair at least 5x the cost of buildng a pair

 

[desy]

Even though I own one I try to drive it as little as possible
I understand that CO2 emmision is bad for the environment.
http://www.canada.com/cgi-bin/cp.asp?f=/news/cp/stories/20010607/technology-608025.html
I know that CO2 emmsion from SUVs is what is keeping Canada from being able to meet Kyoto requirements.
Basically Industry CO2 is declining but our total CO2 is going up almost exclusivly because of SUVs
http://www.canada.com/cgi-bin/cp.asp?f=/news/cp/stories/20010711/nationales-235020.html
Sorry for the french but I couldn't find the English version.
I have children I would like them to enjoy a kind of world I grew up in its pretty good. When people can't make intelligent choices governments will LEGISLATE so like cells phones SUVs may get banned.
Auto manufacturers love to sell SUVs cause its their highest profit margin. I think an enviro tax at purchase time for vehicles that don't get 25 mpg would be good and a tax rebate for those that get more than 40. It would provide an impetus for people to think with their pocket books, if they can afford the SUV then go for it and their need for excess can be put bakc into environmental issues. problem with gas tax its a flat tax and impacts low income people more.

 

[Eug]

<< Well, I still think it's all up to the driver.

My situation:
I was driving through northern Ontario in late January one day, and obviously the roads were covered with snow, mostly a hard packed layer no more than half an inch thick.
Still, very slippery.
I saw a new grand am in the ditch, a couple of SUV's, and audi A4 I think, a few small cars, yet I managed to drive the whole 250km (150mile) drive without incident.
I was averaging about 35mph too....I guess it all comes down to how smooth you drive in the snow. >>

Yep agreed. My old V8 station wagon and full-size van were rear wheel drive without traction control. I drove them for several Saskatchewan winters and have managed so far not to get into the ditch with those either but I still find them harder to deal with.


<< Eug, Yes, trucks like the Tahoe/Yukon are LEV because they release only a fraction of emmisions permitted by the law. What does annoy me is that companies like Chrysler skirt these laws by selling so-call &quot;Flexible Fuel&quot; light trucks (minivans) that can run on fuels like E85. Those trucks basically give them a credit to sell higher pollution vehicles. >>

Yeah, that's why I think the terminology should be updated. The Yukon has less smog gas emissions, but puts out a HUGE amount of CO2.


<< We drive the expedition to haul around boats and other crap. We also go offroading quite a bit. >>

So you have good reason to own a big SUV. Not very many people here have any problem with that. You're using an SUV for what they're supposed to be used for.


<< But sometimes when I feel like going down to Wendy's all by myself to pick up some food, I drive the Expedition, and sometimes in the expedition i'll stop, then slam the gas and then stop, and slam the gas again, over and over and over and over and over again (keep in mind I am all by myself). And since I am in an expedition I am also pretty much the King of the road, and if I want your lane, you have no choice but to give it to me, have a problem with that? Then go buy your own SUV and give me some competition, >>

You sound like a friend of mine. He does the same thing in his humungous Firebird. He also has a couple accidents on his record (thankfully all minor). I wonder what your insurance rates will be in 10 years.

 

[Alienwho]

<< << But sometimes when I feel like going down to Wendy's all by myself to pick up some food, I drive the Expedition, and sometimes in the expedition i'll stop, then slam the gas and then stop, and slam the gas again, over and over and over and over and over again (keep in mind I am all by myself). And since I am in an expedition I am also pretty much the King of the road, and if I want your lane, you have no choice but to give it to me, have a problem with that? Then go buy your own SUV and give me some competition, >>

You sound like a friend of mine. He does the same thing in his humungous Firebird. He also has a couple accidents on his record (thankfully all minor). I wonder what your insurance rates will be in 10 years. >>


Heh no that was a joke, I don't really do that, that would be idiotic.

I guess you just have to own an SUV for a few months to see how practical they really are to some people in their daily run. And i'm not talking about the super gigantic ones either, Mid sized SUV's can actually be pretty damn practical for many people.

 

[rufruf44]

<< But sometimes when I feel like going down to Wendy's all by myself to pick up some food, I drive the Expedition, and sometimes in the expedition i'll stop, then slam the gas and then stop, and slam the gas again, over and over and over and over and over again (keep in mind I am all by myself). And since I am in an expedition I am also pretty much the King of the road, and if I want your lane, you have no choice but to give it to me, have a problem with that? >>



Do that in front of me and I'll make sure you get more than a ticket. Maybe a night in jail will teach you something. Of course, I need to check whether federal agent can arrest people based on this or is it local cop jurisdiction only ?

 

[Alienwho]

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<< But sometimes when I feel like going down to Wendy's all by myself to pick up some food, I drive the Expedition, and sometimes in the expedition i'll stop, then slam the gas and then stop, and slam the gas again, over and over and over and over and over again (keep in mind I am all by myself). And since I am in an expedition I am also pretty much the King of the road, and if I want your lane, you have no choice but to give it to me, have a problem with that? >>



Do that in front of me and I'll make sure you get more than a ticket. Maybe a night in jail will teach you something. Of course, I need to check whether federal agent can arrest people based on this or is it local cop jurisdiction only ? >>


So i'm guessing you DO have a problem with it?

Hahaha, glad to see you read all my posts captain fed.

 

[rufruf44]

Well, your last post coming in when I was typing mine. Sorry, but I'm a bit touchy on that issue after having family members that got into accident similar to that. And no, I'm not a federal agent...maybe in the next few years

 

[BooneRebel]

I drive my SUV for exactly what it was intended for: Anything I want to do.

You want to know why there's such a big markup on them? Because they are in high demand. Auto manufacturers get giddy over a limited supply - high demand vehicle because the dealers can charge whatever they want to. Look at an S2000 or any of the M-series BMWs. And WordSmith, I'm taking care of my kids' future now, by putting them in the backseat with two tons of metal around them. The ultra-low-emissions hybrid with the fiberglass and carbon composite may get 80mpg, but it's not going to do too much for the occupants when it gets totalled. Safety cages, airbags, etc. weigh more and cost mileage.

But the best benefit of my SUV - when I want to haul a bunch of people; I can. When I want to haul a bunch of groceries; I can. When I want to haul a bunch anything; I can &amp; do. I don't have to worry about things blowing out or someone walking by and grabbing stuff out of the back of the bed of a pickup (yes, someone can also bust a window, but what can you do?), it's waterproof, and it's -mine-.

 

[Tauren]

Sorry you're so jealous.

 

[hungrypete]

To those who keep talking about how bad SUVs handle, go take an old K5 Blazer out for a spin, or an old Bronco. You take the top off and it suddenly becomes a shortbed pickup (weight-wise). Shortbed pickups, with the correct suspension, can run with MOST sportscars, they handle quite well if you know how to throw thier weight around.

My 94 K5 blazer WILL keep up with most 'lesser' sports cars. It has a ballsy 5.7L, it has good suspension, and if you are used to the weight and the body roll, you can corner as well as most sedans. Just be careful or its gonna roll and keep on rolling

And to the guy that says sports cars are better for picking up chicks, that is ENTIRELY opinion. I know alot of girls who would rather ride in a full-size SUV than in a mustang. Likewise, I know girls who would much rather ride in the sports car.

The bottom line is, to those of you who b*tch and moan, see you on the freeway, and watch out, I am bigger than you are and I know it. {evil grin}

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

<< Do that in front of me and I'll make sure you get more than a ticket. Maybe a night in jail will teach you something. Of course, I need to check whether federal agent can arrest people based on this or is it local cop jurisdiction only ? >>



No offense but if you do not know the answer to this question I have a hard time believing you are a &quot;federal agent&quot;. A federal law-enforcement officer only has jurisdiction over distinctively federal offenses (e.g., assault on a federal officer or destruction of federal property, or any drug offense), or those committed on federal property.

Of course, just about anyone can make a citizen's arrest . . .

 

[shiner]

Look out guys....the Anti-SUV Gestapo is on ATOT!!!!

Federal Agent? Yeah right....shouldn't you be out selling secrets to the Chinese or something?

 

[supesman]

You forgot one:

Stupid
Useless
Vehicle



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Here are my definitions for SUV. Feel free to grab a dictionary if you don?t understand some of the words?anyone have others?

SUV:

Status
Unbalanced
Values

Simply
Unattainable
Virility

Stupid
Uncultured
Vainglory

Senseless
Useless
Vandals

Somebody
Underwenta
Vasectomy

Spewing
Unbelievable
Vapors

Subhuman
Ultimate
Varletry

Simply
Unreal
Vegetables

Sickening
Urban
Vengeance

Stuckup
Unhygienic
Vermin >>

SText

 

[desy]

Not on ice Pete
I went over a icy bridge in 2 wheel drive in my Bronco and spun like a top cause of the short wheel base, more manouverable yes which when I'm hunting in the fall its great but you have to watch what angle you take when on a grade or over you go!!
They are top heavy and no they don't handle like a sports car.

 

[351Cleveland]

<< Duh, it was made to kick your ass in anything you drive up next to me in >>




Think you can take ME?! Muahahahahahahaahhaahha....

 

[BooneRebel]

<< To those who keep talking about how bad SUVs handle, go take an old K5 Blazer out for a spin, or an old Bronco. You take the top off and it suddenly becomes a shortbed pickup (weight-wise). Shortbed pickups, with the correct suspension, can run with MOST sportscars, they handle quite well if you know how to throw thier weight around.

My 94 K5 blazer WILL keep up with most 'lesser' sports cars. It has a ballsy 5.7L, it has good suspension, and if you are used to the weight and the body roll, you can corner as well as most sedans. Just be careful or its gonna roll and keep on rolling

And to the guy that says sports cars are better for picking up chicks, that is ENTIRELY opinion. I know alot of girls who would rather ride in a full-size SUV than in a mustang. Likewise, I know girls who would much rather ride in the sports car.

The bottom line is, to those of you who b*tch and moan, see you on the freeway, and watch out, I am bigger than you are and I know it. {evil grin} >>



Hee-hee-hee. Try one with a diesel in it. Talk about emissions.

You can pick up chicks in anything. For the guy that has a Vette, riced-out Civic, or anything else that thinks he -has- to have the car, we're talking serious ego problems now.

 

[Aihyah]

funny about the elf likes to firebomb buildings, but leaves suvs alone. I think they missed their calling.

 

[Eug]

<< The ultra-low-emissions hybrid with the fiberglass and carbon composite may get 80mpg, but it's not going to do too much for the occupants when it gets totalled. Safety cages, airbags, etc. weigh more and cost mileage. >>

??? The vast majority of ULEV and LEV cars are just production cars with better technology built into them. My hybrid has a steel body, ABS brakes, airbags, front and rear crumple zones, etc. And despite being a compact, it weighs 2800 lbs.


<< And to the guy that says sports cars are better for picking up chicks, that is ENTIRELY opinion. I know alot of girls who would rather ride in a full-size SUV than in a mustang. Likewise, I know girls who would much rather ride in the sports car. >>

Hehe, the girls I know would rather sit in a BMW convertible than an SUV or Mustang any day. And what about hybrids? One guy driving one was stopped at a light when some teenage girls pulled up and yelled, &quot;Hey, is that a hybrid.&quot; He said yes, and they yelled &quot;Cool!&quot; and then one flashed him. :Q (California of course.)

 

[BooneRebel]

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<< Duh, it was made to kick your ass in anything you drive up next to me in >>




Think you can take ME?! Muahahahahahahaahhaahha.... >>



Do the BFG tires on Cragar rims really make your Mustang faster? <snicker>

Maybe I should get a set...

 

SUVs suck.

I really hate women who drive them AND TALK ON THE CELL PHONE AT THE SAME TIME. Thats like giving someone a 5000lbs weapon.