anyone have very frequent PACs?

[fuzzybabybunny]

This crap is annoying the hell out of me because my family is stressed over it way more than i am. they want to put me on a strict regime of CoQ 10 supplements and try to check my pulse multiple times a day. Two years ago my cardiologist gave me a stress test, an ekg, a holter monitor, and when he diagnosed my PACs he said that it wasn't anything to be worried about. I talked to another cardiologist recently asking if my frequent PACs are something of concern, and he said no as well. But my family as a whole distrusts western medicine, soooo....

Does anyone here have frequent PACs? How are you dealing with it, and is it something to worry about? The PACs stop when my heart rate gets elevated during exercise, and sometimes it disappears randomly while at rest. Likewise, the frequency can change throughout the day from every heartbeat to every 8th heartbeat, etc. i don't feel different. sometimes i have palpitations.

 

[TridenT]

Western medicine has got a lot more EVIDENCE behind it than anything else.

 

[BassBomb]

*snorgle snorgle*

 

[JohnCU]

you just need some more bun bun

 

[Rubycon]

You have PAC MAN fever.

:laugh:

Sorry, could not resist!

 

[shocksyde]

Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
... they want to put me on a strict regime of CoQ...

Mmmmm hmmmm.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
... they want to put me on a strict regime of CoQ...

Mmmmm hmmmm.

:laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
you just need some more bun bun

Originally posted by: BassBomb
*snorgle snorgle*

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Western medicine has got a lot more EVIDENCE behind it than anything else.

thats hard to explain to some people though, sometimes people you love. (not just about medicine)

 

[umbrella39]

PAC's by themselves are no big deal. Tons of people are walking around with them and have no idea they even have them. Most healthy people have no need to have a 12 lead EKG done and never even know then have them. When they convert to A-FIB or A-Flutter is when you would need to worry. PAC's are often caused by stimuli to pain, fever, fear, hyperthyroidism, anxiety, exercise, drugs such as dig, atropine, nicotine, or caffeine.

We treat by removing the underlying cause, whatever that may be in your case OP.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
PAC's by themselves are no big deal. Tons of people are walking around with them and have no idea they even have them. Most healthy people have no need to have a 12 lead EKG done and never even know then have them. When they convert to A-FIB or A-Flutter is when you would need to worry. PAC's are often caused by stimuli to pain, fever, fear, hyperthyroidism, anxiety, exercise, drugs such as dig, atropine, nicotine, or caffeine.

We treat by removing the underlying cause, whatever that may be in your case OP.

lol He's stuck with it forever then.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Originally posted by: umbrella39
PAC's by themselves are no big deal. Tons of people are walking around with them and have no idea they even have them. Most healthy people have no need to have a 12 lead EKG done and never even know then have them. When they convert to A-FIB or A-Flutter is when you would need to worry. PAC's are often caused by stimuli to pain, fever, fear, hyperthyroidism, anxiety, exercise, drugs such as dig, atropine, nicotine, or caffeine.

We treat by removing the underlying cause, whatever that may be in your case OP.

lol He's stuck with it forever then.

What's so funny about a heart condition? Isn't it time to act your age? Do a little research and learn something.

FBB - from what I read, it does not appear to be anything to worry about. But if you still have health insurance get it checked out to ensure that it's not some rare form.

Usually a doctor will order an EKG, holter, or cardiac event monitor for the person to wear. Without an EKG, it is impossible to determine the existence of PACs . Once proven, the person may be referred to a cardiologist for further testing to determine whether the heart is damaged or deteriorated. In case the heart is healthy simple lifestyle changes can help alter and/or prevent the occurrences of PAC's. Exercising, eating right, and lowering stress levels are the most effective ways of reducing the occurrences.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
PAC's by themselves are no big deal. Tons of people are walking around with them and have no idea they even have them. Most healthy people have no need to have a 12 lead EKG done and never even know then have them. When they convert to A-FIB or A-Flutter is when you would need to worry. PAC's are often caused by stimuli to pain, fever, fear, hyperthyroidism, anxiety, exercise, drugs such as dig, atropine, nicotine, or caffeine.

We treat by removing the underlying cause, whatever that may be in your case OP.

Correct. A few PACs here and there are nothing to worry about, considering how so many people have them. But perhaps I'm a bit unusual because of the sheer frequency? I mean, 30 PACs per minute... that's 43,200 PACs per day... and they occur even when I'm relaxed, say, when I just wake up and stuff.

But I'll be sure to keep an eye out for a-fib. I'm just wondering... with my frequency of PACs, is a-fib or some other heart condition in the future guaranteed as a result? Will this many PACs cause heart problems in the future? If so, it may be worth it to try and get these PACs under control.

 

[wwswimming]

i had that when i worked at Elgar in San Diego in 1990.

they had just gone through a leveraged buy-out. 5 managers bought the company for $17 million, then re-sold it to a British company named Dobson-Park the end of 1989/ beginning of 1990. for $40 million.

in order to make the company look better on paper, the managers did all sorts of wierd things. e.g. in my opinion (have to say that for legal reasons) they booked sales below cost, in order to make it look like they had a big healthy backlog. then, after the sale, then tried to cancel some of the orders.

they were making UPS' for the Navy, etc.

one of the projects was a 9 month project for Israeli Defense Forces. Israel threatened to sue, if they cancelled it. so Elgar management turned around and said to the engineers, "OK, you guys, you got 3 months to do this".

that was the environment i was hired into, as a manager.

i developed a premature ventricular contraction after being there for about a month. i eventually started smoking cigs (Camel & Marlboro). smoking cigs i've always taken as a warning sign. 24 hours after i started smoking cigs, i handed in my resignation. the irregular heartbeat disappeared in another 24 hours.

so, in that case, the heart arrhythmia was definitely stress-related.

i wasn't the only one affected by the stress. one of the techs, named Larry, got laid off. he had a wife & kids to support.

Larry came back in with guns & dynamite. he killed one of the 5 managers & a sales guy from New Jersey. there was very little sympathy among the rank & file for the remaining 4 managers. i heard comments like, "too bad ol' Larry didn't get *".

paradoxically, my experience with Larry was that he was real helpful. i needed to set up an EMI test & he was just "one of the techs on the floor". he helped me find all the cables & instruments i needed.

so yes, stress can cause heart arrhythmia and other stress-related conditions.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Western medicine has got a lot more EVIDENCE behind it than anything else.

thats hard to explain to some people though, sometimes people you love. (not just about medicine)

Eating baboon penis will cure you, don't llsten to these western noobs.