Anyone have research info on what % of children with homosexual parents end up being homosexual?

[Eli]

All that needs to be said is this, "Do you choose to like females"?

If you're so short sighted that you cannot look at it from their point of view..

Please, don't have kids.

It's as genetic as eye color. All species have specimens that are homosexual. It is a natural anomaly.

It probably serves some greater purpose that we've yet to figure out yet.

Oh, and it's about as immoral was working on Sunday.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: fredtam
If it is genetic it is a disorder it should be treated as such and not be nurtured. People seem to forget that we can cause things to be written into our genetic code. Thank god this is done slowly at around 1 bit per year given the constant bombardment of useless crap. Homosexuality serves no purpose and if anything needs to be weeded out. Luckily that whole "we are proud to be leppers" movement didn't catch on.

Sarcasm? Flamebait? Do you also advocate not nurturing kids with Down's, cystic fibrosis, sickle cell anemia, other genetic disorders?

I advocate a cure through genetic therapy.

You can't be serious.

No actually I'm not. I wouldn't want a cure for genetic disorders or most terminal diseases. They serve both evolutionary and population control puposes. I would however think that you bleeding hearts would want to cure those genetic disorders and there is really only one way to do that. Through gene manipulation.

 

[DWW]

Oh, and it's about as immoral was working on Sunday.

It is immoral to work on Sunday. We need a day off to drink, eat and watch the game you blasphemer

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: DWW
Um I'm not pro-homo or anything but what about straight people who've decided they don't want children (me). By that mentality you are saying all straight couples who don't want kids "serve no purpose" either right? So you think our whole existance is based on reproduction. Sure thats what we as animals were to do originally but there are many other reasons to live now.

Like what?

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: fredtam
If it is genetic it is a disorder it should be treated as such and not be nurtured. People seem to forget that we can cause things to be written into our genetic code. Thank god this is done slowly at around 1 bit per year given the constant bombardment of useless crap. Homosexuality serves no purpose and if anything needs to be weeded out. Luckily that whole "we are proud to be leppers" movement didn't catch on.

Sarcasm? Flamebait? Do you also advocate not nurturing kids with Down's, cystic fibrosis, sickle cell anemia, other genetic disorders?

I advocate a cure through genetic therapy.

You can't be serious.

No actually I'm not. I wouldn't want a cure for genetic disorders or most terminal diseases. They serve both evolutionary and population control puposes. I would however think that you bleeding hearts would want to cure those genetic disorders and there is really only one way to do that. Through gene manipulation.

Well, why not take it one step further and eliminate modern medicine? All it's really doing is keeping old, sick, and stupid people alive, right?

 

[DWW]

No actually I'm not. I wouldn't want a cure for genetic disorders or most terminal diseases. They serve both evolutionary and population control puposes. I would however think that you bleeding hearts would want to cure those genetic disorders and there is really only one way to do that. Through gene manipulation.

That is a sick way of looking at it though. Pain and suffering (terminal diseases) are just fvcking great! :roll:

Look if you want population control go buy a few thousand condoms, instead of flying to Florida for your next vacation go to Africa or China and hand them out and teach them what preventative measures are. You'd be much more successful that way and less cruel.

"wanting" terminal diseases to exist simply for "population control" is truly assinine.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: LordJezo
Not my fault none of you are Christians. If you were you would see the truth in all of my words.

dang... is it your agenda to make Christians look bad?

As far as all the overly sensitive people on this board, Red is simply posing another Nature Vs Nurture debate where there really is no right answer except somewhere in between. So people on either ends of the spectrum should really stop hating.

 

[DWW]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: DWW
Um I'm not pro-homo or anything but what about straight people who've decided they don't want children (me). By that mentality you are saying all straight couples who don't want kids "serve no purpose" either right? So you think our whole existance is based on reproduction. Sure thats what we as animals were to do originally but there are many other reasons to live now.

Like what?

If you think your whole existence is merely centered around reproducing then I'll find a dozen women you can knock up (more kids than most people have) and you can kill yourself right after?

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: fredtam
If it is genetic it is a disorder it should be treated as such and not be nurtured. People seem to forget that we can cause things to be written into our genetic code. Thank god this is done slowly at around 1 bit per year given the constant bombardment of useless crap. Homosexuality serves no purpose and if anything needs to be weeded out. Luckily that whole "we are proud to be leppers" movement didn't catch on.

Sarcasm? Flamebait? Do you also advocate not nurturing kids with Down's, cystic fibrosis, sickle cell anemia, other genetic disorders?

I advocate a cure through genetic therapy.

You can't be serious.

No actually I'm not. I wouldn't want a cure for genetic disorders or most terminal diseases. They serve both evolutionary and population control puposes. I would however think that you bleeding hearts would want to cure those genetic disorders and there is really only one way to do that. Through gene manipulation.

Well, why not take it one step further and eliminate modern medicine? All it's really doing is keeping old, sick, and stupid people alive, right?

Actually yes.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: DWW

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: DWW
Um I'm not pro-homo or anything but what about straight people who've decided they don't want children (me). By that mentality you are saying all straight couples who don't want kids "serve no purpose" either right? So you think our whole existance is based on reproduction. Sure thats what we as animals were to do originally but there are many other reasons to live now.

Like what?

If you think your whole existence is merely centered around reproducing then I'll find a dozen women you can knock up (more kids than most people have) and you can kill yourself right after?

Your forgetting that one of the other purposes is to nurture the offspring and provide the best enviroment for their survival. If you honestly think you serve a purpose other than the continued survival of your species you are wrong. Should you enjoy your stay? Sure, why not?

 

[TravisT]

LordJezo, don't think you are wrong because the whole internet community is full of a bunch liberal minded individuals. I agree with you and support you 100%. It is unfortunate that the world is having a much tougher time now to distinguish between right and wrong. What's next? Stealing is okay? Killing people is okay?

Parents are now having to specify the difference everyday. I fear what my young daughter will see when she gets older and what her kids may have to go through.

 

[Fausto]

TravisT scuttled out from beneath his rock and said:
LordJezo, don't think you are wrong because the whole internet community is full of a bunch liberal minded individuals. I agree with you and support you 100%. It is unfortunate that the world is having a much tougher time now to distinguish between right and wrong. What's next? Stealing is okay? Killing people is okay?

I love how threads like this really flush the retards out of the woodwork.

Parents are now having to specify the difference everyday. I fear what my young daughter will see when she gets older and what her kids may have to go through.

Oh noes!! She might catch the gay!!

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: TravisT
LordJezo, don't think you are wrong because the whole internet community is full of a bunch liberal minded individuals. I agree with you and support you 100%. It is unfortunate that the world is having a much tougher time now to distinguish between right and wrong. What's next? Stealing is okay? Killing people is okay?

Parents are now having to specify the difference everyday. I fear what my young daughter will see when she gets older and what her kids may have to go through.

You're right - because we all know that homosexuality, which hurts no one, is very similar to stealing and killing, which very negatively effect an outside party.


:roll:

 

[Kenazo]

wow, i'm gone for an hour, and the thread goes down the crapper.

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: TravisT
LordJezo, don't think you are wrong because the whole internet community is full of a bunch liberal minded individuals. I agree with you and support you 100%. It is unfortunate that the world is having a much tougher time now to distinguish between right and wrong. What's next? Stealing is okay? Killing people is okay?

Parents are now having to specify the difference everyday. I fear what my young daughter will see when she gets older and what her kids may have to go through.

You're right - because we all know that homosexuality, which hurts no one, is very similar to stealing and killing, which very negatively effect an outside party.


:roll:

That is a common misconception of people who support the choice of homosexuality...

Read this: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRR_02_11.html

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: LordJezo

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: LordJezo
Not my fault none of you are Christians. If you were you would see the truth in all of my words.

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Please please please tell me you are just trolling again. I seriously do not what to believe that people like you can actually exist in this world.

lol... the liberal media pushing the gay agenda...haha... go to church to see the truth...you are a funny funny man my friend. A funny funny man.

When it comes to Jesus, I don't troll.

hahaha but when it comes to the mansex are you the pitcher or the catcher?

jezo you are the most awesome troll in here :beer:

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: DWW

Oh, and it's about as immoral was working on Sunday.

It is immoral to work on Sunday. We need a day off to drink, eat and watch the game you blasphemer

:beer:

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: Fausto

TravisT scuttled out from beneath his rock and said:
LordJezo, don't think you are wrong because the whole internet community is full of a bunch liberal minded individuals. I agree with you and support you 100%. It is unfortunate that the world is having a much tougher time now to distinguish between right and wrong. What's next? Stealing is okay? Killing people is okay?

I love how threads like this really flush the retards out of the woodwork.

Parents are now having to specify the difference everyday. I fear what my young daughter will see when she gets older and what her kids may have to go through.

Oh noes!! She might catch the gay!!

You may be a 'Lifer' but you surely didn't get there with a full load of constructive remarks. Great flames, I was almost amused. Grow up.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: TravisT
That is a common misconception of people who support the choice of homosexuality...

Read this: http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRR_02_11.html

LOL. Now there's a solid psychological study if I ever saw one.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Fausto

TravisT scuttled out from beneath his rock and said:
LordJezo, don't think you are wrong because the whole internet community is full of a bunch liberal minded individuals. I agree with you and support you 100%. It is unfortunate that the world is having a much tougher time now to distinguish between right and wrong. What's next? Stealing is okay? Killing people is okay?

I love how threads like this really flush the retards out of the woodwork.

Parents are now having to specify the difference everyday. I fear what my young daughter will see when she gets older and what her kids may have to go through.

Oh noes!! She might catch the gay!!

You may be a 'Lifer' but you surely didn't get there with a full load of constructive remarks. Great flames, I was almost amused. Grow up.

Hey, you're the one who can't distinguish between two men living together and murder, dumbass. I think you need to pull the bible out of your ass and grow up. Your kids are going to be completely screwed up because of you, you realize that right?

 

Fredtam: I hope you get raped in the park by some big hairy biker doods.

Is it fun playing god?

 

[Insane3D]

Hey...you guys. I always forget...is it next Tuesday or next Thrusday that we are switching to gay? I lost my schedule again...

 

[Bitek]

These evolutionary "proofs" of why homo. can't be genetic are flawed and will usually just lead to false understanding. There are probably millions of examples in nature of structures/adaptations/behavior/ etc that on the onset seem evolutionary disadvantageous although they exist and even thrive.

One such example:

It should be well known to us that a woman's child-bearing years are finite and really relatively short. After the age of ~30 a woman's fertility begins to drop precipitiously meanwhile the chance of bearing a child with a genetic disorder (namely down-syndrome) begins to rise sharply. By the time a woman reaches 40, the odds of having a child with down syndrome is signifigant (I'd like to say ~30-40%, but its been a while since I've looked at the figures.) Now following your sorts of reasoning, this phenomenon would would be disadvantageous to a woman, and should have been bred out, as an individual woman who could reproduce indefintiely (no menopause) would be evolutionarily favored. However, this is not the case in humans. One has to look beyond the individual to the group/society level for understanding. While an individual woman's genes are more favored w/o menopause, the group or society benefits more w/ menopause because the menopausal woman was/is more valuable to the group as she was free to conduct non-reproductive roles. (Such as food gathering/ leadership/ social structure/ teaching/ etc etc.) Thus, the group advantage is favored over individual.

This type of evolution (group advantage over individual advantage) is fairly common eventhough in strict "Darwinian" competition it seems contradictory. It completely depends on the environment in which the trait is found. Other examples include: salmon and other fish (why run and die instead of returning to sea and running again?) Annual vs perennial plants is another huge one.


The case maybe that the existance of homosexuality in a population is evolutionarily advantageous to that group eventhough the reasons for so may not be obvious to us. Evolution does not need our permission or approval.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Hey...you guys. I always forget...is it next Tuesday or next Thrusday that we are switching to gay? I lost my schedule again...

YHPM.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: TravisTParents are now having to specify the difference everyday. I fear what my young daughter will see when she gets older and what her kids may have to go through.

Remember to shun your daughter and disown her from your family is she turns out to be gay! Then blame it on the liberal media and the intraweb.