Anyone had ACL surgery?

HamSupLo

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I had surgery for a torn ACL and meniscus tear in my right knee about 2 years ago. It still feels stiff and a little painful to squat all the way down. I also hear a squishy noise when i flex it really fast. Anyone here fully came back from a similar injury? If you did, what excercises did you do and how close to normal is the knee?
 

BigJ

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More then likely it will never be fully healed. I had an MCL injury 2 years back (a minor one at that) which would always feel funny in bad weather, and had pain in from time to time. That MCL injury made my knee more suceptible to further injury, and I wound up badly tearing my MCL and meniscus, and partially tearing my ACL (enough to warrant surgery if I hadn't done such a good job recovering from it, being young and all) in December. Doc told me straight up it may never be the same, and it is a very real possiblility that I may have arthritis, among other things later on in life.

On a related note, I tore my MCL and menisucus in my other knee 6 months ago, and I also have the problems you're talking about in that knee, along with the knee I already mentioned.

 

HamSupLo

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if you don't have the tendon grafted from somewhere else then the surgeon will use a ACL recovered from a cadavar.
 

Twista

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Originally posted by: jooksing
if you don't have the tendon grafted from somewhere else then the surgeon will use a ACL recovered from a cadavar.

Ah I see. The person has to be a legal donor right?
 

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Originally posted by: Twista
Originally posted by: jooksing
if you don't have the tendon grafted from somewhere else then the surgeon will use a ACL recovered from a cadavar.

Ah I see. The person has to be a legal donor right?
That or some homeless guy nobody is going to miss.:Q
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: jooksing
are you doing any rehab, BigJ?

I did 3 months of PT, 6 hours of week. I basically did any and all types of leg exercises. The problem with a severe knee injury like that is that it absolutely destroys the strenght you had in that leg. You really don't feel back to normal until that strength starts returning.

My very first PT session consisted of stim + ice, and actually trying to bend my knee. Damn that was fvcking painful. Then we started with leg extensions, then with an ankle weight on, just very basic exercises. Then some light walking on the treadmil without a brace on, wall squats. Stuff to give you back your range of motion.

Then after that we actually did resistance exercises to build strenght yet. I remember on a horizontal squat machine, at the very beginning, I could only do 80lbs one legged. Before the injury I used to squat 300+ and leg press around 720lbs :( It was quite painful at times, especially the leg curls, but once I got started things just got better and better. In 2 months I could already double what I did at the beginning, I could run, and I really didn't have any pain in it anymore.

Physical Therapy is absolutey critical when it comes to rehabilitation. My doctor told me after the first month I was already a month and a half ahead of schedule, and by the second month I would no longer require surgery. That was a hell of a relief.

Also, my friend completely tore his ACL (we actually both did this in our very last high school football game, both cases our legs were planted and someone went physically through our legs. I wound up actually going back into the game and playing with the injury for a quarter, which after that my knee actually locked up on me for the most part.). He had surgery in January, and because of PT is already 3 months ahead of schedule.
 

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a friend of mine had a partial tear, he chose to let it heal naturally. the doctor said that it would end up healing better than if he had surgery, but it would take quite a bit longer to heal.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
a friend of mine had a partial tear, he chose to let it heal naturally. the doctor said that it would end up healing better than if he had surgery, but it would take quite a bit longer to heal.

If it isn't as severe, this is absolutely the way to go. Unfortunately in cases like when it snaps and rolls up into the knee, you really can't do this.
 

HamSupLo

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: jooksing
are you doing any rehab, BigJ?

I did 3 months of PT, 6 hours of week. I basically did any and all types of leg exercises. The problem with a severe knee injury like that is that it absolutely destroys the strenght you had in that leg. You really don't feel back to normal until that strength starts returning.

My very first PT session consisted of stim + ice, and actually trying to bend my knee. Damn that was fvcking painful. Then we started with leg extensions, then with an ankle weight on, just very basic exercises. Then some light walking on the treadmil without a brace on, wall squats. Stuff to give you back your range of motion.

Then after that we actually did resistance exercises to build strenght yet. I remember on a horizontal squat machine, at the very beginning, I could only do 80lbs one legged. Before the injury I used to squat 300+ and leg press around 720lbs :( It was quite painful at times, especially the leg curls, but once I got started things just got better and better. In 2 months I could already double what I did at the beginning, I could run, and I really didn't have any pain in it anymore.

Physical Therapy is absolutey critical when it comes to rehabilitation. My doctor told me after the first month I was already a month and a half ahead of schedule, and by the second month I would no longer require surgery. That was a hell of a relief.

Also, my friend completely tore his ACL (we actually both did this in our very last high school football game, both cases our legs were planted and someone went physically through our legs. I wound up actually going back into the game and playing with the injury for a quarter, which after that my knee actually locked up on me for the most part.). He had surgery in January, and because of PT is already 3 months ahead of schedule.

yeah i remember the initial PT session...pure hell. My knee hasn't slipped out or anything, so i think the graft is holding strong, but i just feel this pain under the knee cap when i plant all my weight on it. And i still can't squat all the way without pain. Right now i'm doing weight bearing exercises like deadlifts and the leg press machine. are you doing any rehab still?

 

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I had a basketball injury where I twisted my knee in a funny position. It was first diagnosed as severe inflamaton, so I was on inflammatories, a brace and crutches for 2 weeks. Then, after 2 month of physical rehab (not really intense, just bending, lifting repetitions to strengthen the knee to normal) it still felt "abnormal". I was told by one doctor to do more intense physical exercises on the knee. So thats what I did, played sports with it, ran. But for almost a year after that, it still felt very "abnormal" and when I walked, my knee would ocassionally buckle. That was stupid and embarassing because I would be walking normally and all of a sudden I would appear like I just had a mistep. Then I got tired of it and I had it rechecked, guess what they found, a torn miniscus that was the main cause of the buckling, and stretched out ACL that is near to ripping. So I had surgery, 2 months of rehab, everything seems back to normal. I just need to be careful not to completey tear my ACL when I play sports again, so I bought a hockey brace that would protect my knee from side hits. I know that it will eventually tear, and it will be a more complex surgery. So my opinion is that, I think the quality of the surgeon is also important. My surgeon was recommended to me by several nurses, he was said to be the best with these kind of surgeries.
 

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I tore my ACL, meniscus, and partial tear of MCL. Freak sparring accident. Did PT for 3 months after that but the knee was never the same. It gets sore whenever I do more than 2 weeks of jogging at a time. Strength finally came back but the fast twitch muscle reflex didn't, my left leg is all slow now.

My advice: stretch it out and bend it without putting major weight/stress on it.

Oh, and the squishy noise is prob from scar tissue, I have it too.

Anyone else have a numb spot? I used to have one right by my scar, it took forever for the stupid nerve to grow back.
 

HamSupLo

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Originally posted by: virtuamike
I tore my ACL, meniscus, and partial tear of MCL. Freak sparring accident. Did PT for 3 months after that but the knee was never the same. It gets sore whenever I do more than 2 weeks of jogging at a time. Strength finally came back but the fast twitch muscle reflex didn't, my left leg is all slow now.

My advice: stretch it out and bend it without putting major weight/stress on it.

Oh, and the squishy noise is prob from scar tissue, I have it too.

Anyone else have a numb spot? I used to have one right by my scar, it took forever for the stupid nerve to grow back.

yeah i have a numbed area.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: joejld1
I had a basketball injury where I twisted my knee in a funny position. It was first diagnosed as severe inflamaton, so I was on inflammatories, a brace and crutches for 2 weeks. Then, after 2 month of physical rehab (not really intense, just bending, lifting repetitions to strengthen the knee to normal) it still felt "abnormal". I was told by one doctor to do more intense physical exercises on the knee. So thats what I did, played sports with it, ran. But for almost a year after that, it still felt very "abnormal" and when I walked, my knee would ocassionally buckle. That was stupid and embarassing because I would be walking normally and all of a sudden I would appear like I just had a mistep. Then I got tired of it and I had it rechecked, guess what they found, a torn miniscus that was the main cause of the buckling, and stretched out ACL that is near to ripping. So I had surgery, 2 months of rehab, everything seems back to normal. I just need to be careful not to completey tear my ACL when I play sports again, so I bought a hockey brace that would protect my knee from side hits. I know that it will eventually tear, and it will be a more complex surgery. So my opinion is that, I think the quality of the surgeon is also important. My surgeon was recommended to me by several nurses, he was said to be the best with these kind of surgeries.

Don't be too overconfident with the hinged-knee braces. I was actually wearing a very good hinged brace when I tore my MCL, Meniscus, and ACL (I had strained my PCL in the knee, so I was just playing it safe). Lucky I was though, or else I probably would've needed the knee to be totally reconstructed. The actual injury was a 200lb person's back going through my knee.