Anyone good in Biology?

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: BD2003
By half I mean one of each major group. A earthworm is basically a flatworm for instance.

I'm sure all schools do it differently, but mine does it very comprehensively - 3 lecture and 3 lab intro courses, which covers just about everything.

You said it yourself though, youre too lazy to read the book. Instead of complaining about how hard it is, take that mental energy and use it positively. Its only hard if you make it out to be hard.

:laugh:
Yeah you definitely didn't do well if you say an earthworm is a flatworm, they aren't even in the same phylum.
Earthworms are more closely related to mullusks than flatworms.
We have 4 lecture and 4 lab courses in 18wks.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: The Godfather
God i hate that class! Its impossible.

We're learning the Calvin Cycle, Krebs Cycle, Cellular Respiration and we have a test tomorrow.

I'm in Honors and everyone has a C or a D.

Anyone willing to help me out? Give me the basics. The book and the notes she gave us are totally insane. I need a simpler explanation.

Tnx.

I'd tell you but you would HAVE to swear to god that you aren't going into a medical profession.

 

[Turnpike]

Ive found quite the opposite. I learn more listnening in class and not taking notes, and reading the book later. But at this point, to be perfectly honest, I never go to class, and still score upper 90s on the tests, just with the book.

Go to class
Read book
Do problems
Read book again
Do more problems
read book again

The key is to read slowly and carefully. Dont go on to the next section until youve got everything from the last one. Its not literature. Dont ignore the diagrams, they are more important than the text. Do as many practice problems as you possibly can. The teacher isnt going to tell you much that the book wont. The difference is you can go back when you dont understand something with the book.

More help than anything in the world is the animations contained on the CD that came with your book.

And most importantly, learn it to learn it, not to pass the test. When youre learning to understand it, youll do better, no matter what.

And there is no simpler explanation. The super complex one you already have is probably vastly simplified.

What book are you using?

That must depend on your teacher/professor then.
In college, professors generally give out lecture note packets that contain everything that's on the test. My professor even says that you don't even need to buy the textbook.
Anyways for my bio class here's what I have to memorize for my next test:
Know the anatomy of:
Porifera(sponges) - know the ostia, incurrent canal, prosopyle, radial canal, apopyle, spongocoel, osculum.. just to give you an idea what the parts are named - not exactly familiar terms.
3 different flatworms, including nematoda, tuberillans, trematoda - again, like 8-10 more parts EACH
Oligochaeta(earthworm) - 11 parts
Polychaeta(sandworm) - 8 parts
Cnidaria(hydras and sea jellies) - another 8 parts
Bivalva(mussels) - you have to know like 6 different muscles that all look identical, on top of all the regular organs.
Arthopoda(crayfish) - 22 FVCKING PARTS including their 5 mouth parts in which my professor describes as "looks like nothing"
Hexapoda(grasshopper) - 19 FVCKING PARTS!
Echinodermata(seastar) - 10 parts
Ostiechthyes(fish) - ANOTHER 19 PARTS!
Anurun(frog) - another 19 parts, including being able to identify 5 different parts of the frog brain!! cerebrun, olfactory lobe, optic lobe, medulla oblongata, spinal chord..
Aves(bird)
Mammalia(mice)

Yes and memorizing all these big terms ISN'T ALL. There are still FIVE CHAPTERS OF CONCEPTS TO LEARN!!
We get 3 weeks to learn ALL of these. I'll take cellular respiration ANYDAY over this. Learning cellular respiration is like knowing the anatomy of ONE of these animals.

You have it easy now. Just wait for level 2 bio in college, then you'll want to die.


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you're kidding right? you need to only know 5-20 basic anatomical parts of very simple animals? that's like remembering 20-30 parts per week, thats cake. if this scares you i hope you aren't thinking pre-med stuff because the sheer amount of memorization for a single course like gross anatomy alone will swamp you. forget about the other biochem, physio, micro, path, whatever you are taking at the same time....

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: The Godfather
God i hate that class! Its impossible.

We're learning the Calvin Cycle, Krebs Cycle, Cellular Respiration and we have a test tomorrow.

I'm in Honors and everyone has a C or a D.

Anyone willing to help me out? Give me the basics. The book and the notes she gave us are totally insane. I need a simpler explanation.

Tnx.

Well grades aside, if everyone has a C-D that is a problem with the teacher more or less, is there a final curve at the end or are you in the prior to drop/add week session?..a lot of classes get way easier after.

most of my bio/zoo classes it was B-C with me and one or two others hitting 100%+

I wasn't a study hog, I just understood it.

There were those that owned me in Calc...

I have been in a lot of classes that I was averaging 50-70% which was the A-B level at the end.

Final Biochem is usually like that, most professors in my day still gave it on a total bell curve (yes there were good students that had to retake it).

I don't know how I would have done really, I missed two tests due to me only having a bike to get to school at the time and freezing weather (I made it to the classroom both days a little late, but the asshat liked to change the room 10mins into class)...I do know I would not take the guy again, and currently he is not a professor at my old college.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Turnpike
You're screwed for putting this off for so long. Here's as basic as I can get:

Glycolsis: one 6 carbon glucose molecule is split into 2 3 carbon pyruvates. You spend 2 atp and get 4 atp, netting 2 ATP out of it. This is anaerobic.

Krebs (aka TCA): Those pyruvates are first changed to Acetyl-CoA's which go thru a big cycle and spit out NADH and FADH's (these are important for later). You don't get energy here.

Electron Transport Chain (aka oxidative phosphorylation): All those FADH and NADH's are used to push free H+'s into an enclosed space. Because the concentration of H+'s is so high it creates an "electo-chemical" gradient. All the H+'s want to go out. It's like water built up before a dam. And there's a turbine (the enzyme that I forgot the name of) that uses the energy of these H+'s spilling out to turn itself and make ADP to ATP. This aerobic because oxygen catches all these H+'s giving you water (H2O)!

Anyways thats the big picture. You have to read your text and notes to fill in the details.

There's one reaction in TCA that does give energy directly! -1

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Turnpike

Ive found quite the opposite. I learn more listnening in class and not taking notes, and reading the book later. But at this point, to be perfectly honest, I never go to class, and still score upper 90s on the tests, just with the book.

Go to class
Read book
Do problems
Read book again
Do more problems
read book again

The key is to read slowly and carefully. Dont go on to the next section until youve got everything from the last one. Its not literature. Dont ignore the diagrams, they are more important than the text. Do as many practice problems as you possibly can. The teacher isnt going to tell you much that the book wont. The difference is you can go back when you dont understand something with the book.

More help than anything in the world is the animations contained on the CD that came with your book.

And most importantly, learn it to learn it, not to pass the test. When youre learning to understand it, youll do better, no matter what.

And there is no simpler explanation. The super complex one you already have is probably vastly simplified.

What book are you using?

That must depend on your teacher/professor then.
In college, professors generally give out lecture note packets that contain everything that's on the test. My professor even says that you don't even need to buy the textbook.
Anyways for my bio class here's what I have to memorize for my next test:
Know the anatomy of:
Porifera(sponges) - know the ostia, incurrent canal, prosopyle, radial canal, apopyle, spongocoel, osculum.. just to give you an idea what the parts are named - not exactly familiar terms.
3 different flatworms, including nematoda, tuberillans, trematoda - again, like 8-10 more parts EACH
Oligochaeta(earthworm) - 11 parts
Polychaeta(sandworm) - 8 parts
Cnidaria(hydras and sea jellies) - another 8 parts
Bivalva(mussels) - you have to know like 6 different muscles that all look identical, on top of all the regular organs.
Arthopoda(crayfish) - 22 FVCKING PARTS including their 5 mouth parts in which my professor describes as "looks like nothing"
Hexapoda(grasshopper) - 19 FVCKING PARTS!
Echinodermata(seastar) - 10 parts
Ostiechthyes(fish) - ANOTHER 19 PARTS!
Anurun(frog) - another 19 parts, including being able to identify 5 different parts of the frog brain!! cerebrun, olfactory lobe, optic lobe, medulla oblongata, spinal chord..
Aves(bird)
Mammalia(mice)

Yes and memorizing all these big terms ISN'T ALL. There are still FIVE CHAPTERS OF CONCEPTS TO LEARN!!
We get 3 weeks to learn ALL of these. I'll take cellular respiration ANYDAY over this. Learning cellular respiration is like knowing the anatomy of ONE of these animals.

You have it easy now. Just wait for level 2 bio in college, then you'll want to die.

you're kidding right? you need to only know 5-20 basic anatomical parts of very simple animals? that's like remembering 20-30 parts per week, thats cake. if this scares you i hope you aren't thinking pre-med stuff because the sheer amount of memorization for a single course like gross anatomy alone will swamp you. forget about the other biochem, physio, micro, path, whatever you are taking at the same time....
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blah blah blah, another average ATOTer who thinks they're the shiet.
Anyways it's more like 50 parts per week, and that's on top of all the lecture stuff, and that's on top of two other classes.

 

[alfa147x]

Originally posted by: The Godfather
God i hate that class! Its impossible.

We're learning the Calvin Cycle, Krebs Cycle, Cellular Respiration and we have a test tomorrow.

I'm in Honors and everyone has a C or a D.

Anyone willing to help me out? Give me the basics. The book and the notes she gave us are totally insane. I need a simpler explanation.

Tnx.

yup its F#cking S#it

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: alfa147x

Originally posted by: The Godfather
God i hate that class! Its impossible.

We're learning the Calvin Cycle, Krebs Cycle, Cellular Respiration and we have a test tomorrow.

I'm in Honors and everyone has a C or a D.

Anyone willing to help me out? Give me the basics. The book and the notes she gave us are totally insane. I need a simpler explanation.

Tnx.

yup its F#cking S#it

If you wanted an easy ride through college, you should be a psych major.

 

[ForumMaster]

i do have the best grade in the class in biology... although i am much younger then most of you (only 15) and we are learning the easiest crap in the world: the respiration system! if i didn't know how to breath, maybe my god damn teacher could teach me. but for your stuff, i'd just google around and read. as others have said, half of biology is memorizing facts. but if the test is tomorrow and you only started studying now... your outcome doesn't look that great. but keep on studying and maybe u can land an ok grade. and next time, you need to start studying earlier. Good Luck!

 

[Philippine Mango]

A much deserved bump.

 

[JDrake]

Aww I came to this thread thinking
"Sweet, I'm awesome at Biology, I can help you out!"
but then I realized that it was created like uber months ago

 

[Philippine Mango]

You do realize that biology is an ALL YEAR class, right? You think he still isn't having problems? I beg to differ...

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
You do realize that biology is an ALL YEAR class, right? You think he still isn't having problems? I beg to differ...

Its only 1 semester at my school

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: joedrake

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
You do realize that biology is an ALL YEAR class, right? You think he still isn't having problems? I beg to differ...

Its only 1 semester at my school

What do you do for the rest of the year?

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: joedrake
Aww I came to this thread thinking
"Sweet, I'm awesome at Biology, I can help you out!"
but then I realized that it was created like uber months ago

yeah, same here.