Anyone from Missouri

[rivan]

Having lived in rural Missouri, let me tell you the average rural Missourian might have an attitude problem with you, but it's more because you're (presumably) obviously not a farmer. When I moved there, I was "not one of them" even though I'm as white as they come.

So will there be some people who will have a problem with you simply because you're not 100% white? Probably, but if it weren't that, they'd find another reason.

That said, Springfield should be a different story - it's a college town. It's population during school is significantly larger than during the summer months. Yes, there will be a larger percentage of white folk, and some of them will be rural white folk that quite probably racist. I'd be very surprised if you found any trouble, if you showed up without a chip on your shoulder. On the flip side, it's a great place to find trouble if you're looking for it - but it would be for me, too - after all, I've got hair past my shoulders, so I must be gay, or a hippy or something.

As for Eits' comment that there's lots of racism in Missouri, he's right. In my experience, there's lots of racism just about everywhere but the only time it ever seems to be called racism in any major way is when it's white people doing the hating. I certainly know there are sections of this city I wouldn't go to alone/after dark, just because I'm white.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Do you always schedule your vacations around the forcasted Klan activity?

lol

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wow. just wow.

QFT


OP you are clueless. Please stop getting all your information from the internet and use some common sense.

Common sense? How am I supposed to use common sense of an area I've never been? Unless I get people's first hand knowledge of living in the area? Hmm? Hmm?

It's fucking Missouri not North Korea.

 

[Vonkhan]

lolwut

this thread delivers

 

[waggy]

just stay home. its safer...not to mention Missouri does not need another racist

 

[manowar821]

LOL @ this thread.

BTW OP, there are even white supremacist groups in places like Minneapolis, MN. Yeah, in friendly old Minnesota. They keep their stupid-ass mouths shut for the most part, though.

Just smile, and nobody will dick with you. *glances at your signature* lol.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: amdskip
So do you think your car will get torched or you will be shot at there? Is there really that bad of racism in the US still?

From what I gather, that yes, racism is still big, especially in the South. I've never had to deal with racism, ever. She did say that the headquarters for the KKK is in Harrison Arkansas which is about 1.5 hours away from where she lives. So after hearing that I did a google search for hate crimes in Springfield MO and came up with a host of different topics regarding racism and bigotry in the MO.

Stay in Washington. The South isn't that bad but the chip on your shoulder will probably get you into trouble long before anyone notices your skin color.

Just moved back north after spending 4 years in the dirty south, you have been fed a bunch of poo apparently. I found race relations in much better shape down south than in most northern industrial areas. You might get called a Yankee and they will not be joking, but you will not have any problems otherwise.

Be prepared for strangers of all races to make eye contact and say hello, for children to address you with respect, and try to "slow down" if you can. Everything in the south moves 3 days behind the speed of life. Drove me fucking nuts when I first moved there, now I miss that attitude.

I lived in Alabama from 1992 until this year (moved back to Ohio). There's racism in the South but no more than in the North. A friend of mine put it this way: "I'd rather live in the South with their bigots. Unlike the North, at least down here they're upfront about their prejudice."

 

[sao123]

Read above. Kona put it pretty clearly what my thoughts are. Sometimes I have trouble explaining myself.

Furthermore, I live in an area that celebrates diversity. We have every mix of ethnic backgrounds and sexual preferences. White, Black, Asian, Russian for example. So I'm not sure how you're getting off on calling me racist.

If your going to claim that you celebrate diversity, then you need to be prepared to accept some diversity (in that) some people do not.


being intolerant of intolerants makes you a racist... get over yourself.

if you want to vacation to a place where you should be afraid... go to the detroit ghetto, or the streets of LA.

You might go to the south, and be insulted... but you'll come back relatively alive and unharmed.

 

[mugs]

The KKK isn't big ANYWHERE anymore. They're nothing compared to what they used to be. They're a joke. No one is going to kill you because you're foreign. The middle part of the US isn't THAT backward.

 

[michaelsslave]

this thread is delivering :thumbsup:

 

[Kirby]

I'll call the Grand Dragon and let him know you are coming.

 

[nakedfrog]

I live in a town that's home to the annual King Korn Karnival (which was renamed a few years ago to add two more Ks). We had no less than three all black drill teams from North Omaha in the parade. I think you'll be fine.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: nkgreen
I'll call the Grand Dragon and let him know you are coming.

Careful of this one...he's a Bama fan and just might call the Grand Dragon.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: nkgreen
I'll call the Grand Dragon and let him know you are coming.

Careful of this one...he's a Bama fan and just might call the Grand Dragon.

Yeah, he's on speed dial right after the spirit of George Wallace. :laugh:

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: nkgreen
I'll call the Grand Dragon and let him know you are coming.

Careful of this one...he's a Bama fan and just might call the Grand Dragon.

Yeah, he's on speed dial right after the spirit of George Wallace. :laugh:

You're not a real Bama fan unless you have the spirit of The Bahr on speed dial.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: nkgreen
I'll call the Grand Dragon and let him know you are coming.

Careful of this one...he's a Bama fan and just might call the Grand Dragon.

Yeah, he's on speed dial right after the spirit of George Wallace. :laugh:

You're not a real Bama fan unless you have the spirit of The Bahr on speed dial.

Real Bama fans have a constant spiritually telekinesis with him.

Who do you have on speed dial? The bovine veterinary?

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: nkgreen
I'll call the Grand Dragon and let him know you are coming.

Careful of this one...he's a Bama fan and just might call the Grand Dragon.

Yeah, he's on speed dial right after the spirit of George Wallace. :laugh:

You're not a real Bama fan unless you have the spirit of The Bahr on speed dial.

Real Bama fans have a constant spiritually telekinesis with him.

Who do you have on speed dial? The bovine veterinary?

Nah, I've got Tiger on speed dial.

 

[jme5343]

I was born in Springfield. 30 years ago when race relations are more tense than now. There was a black..check that, half filipino child born in the segregated wing of Cox West Hospital. Sadly, he was snuffed out by the KKK during his first night of sleep. I'm white, but have a bit of a dark complexion, so my mom floated me down Lake Springfield or I may have suffered the same fate.

Just go, you pussy. People like yourself are the problem.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: konakona
Still, I stand by my opinion you dont know how it feels unless you been there.

Please explain how it's necessary to "know how it feels" in order to know whether it's happening.

I'll be the first to admit that as a kid with German/Scottish heritage growing up in Ohio I never personally experienced discrimination when I was little. However, one of my best friends through high school and college was Pakistani. I didn't need to know how it felt to see the very obvious discrimination against him. Especially after 9/11, but it was not the greatest even before then.

This whole idea that whites are necessarily completely oblivious to racism is ridiculous. I'll agree that most of us have no idea what it feels like, but that has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on whether we can see it occurring.

ZV

 

[cheezmunky]

I grew up just outside of springfield, and there is a little racism like everywhere else on the planet. You're not going to get lynched or anything, just maybe looked at different by about 1% of the population. That said, I'm white so I probably don't know anything...

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Furthermore, I live in an area that celebrates diversity. We have every mix of ethnic backgrounds and sexual preferences. White, Black, Asian, Russian for example. So I'm not sure how you're getting off on calling me racist.

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he's calling you racist because you've said that it's impossible for whites to know if racism is occurring.

Just because you live in a diverse area doesn't magically make you non-racist.

ZV

 

[michaelsslave]

while your in springfield, MO can you pleaese pick me up some meth?

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: amdskip
So do you think your car will get torched or you will be shot at there? Is there really that bad of racism in the US still?

From what I gather, that yes, racism is still big, especially in the South. I've never had to deal with racism, ever. She did say that the headquarters for the KKK is in Harrison Arkansas which is about 1.5 hours away from where she lives. So after hearing that I did a google search for hate crimes in Springfield MO and came up with a host of different topics regarding racism and bigotry in the MO.

Stay in Washington. The South isn't that bad but the chip on your shoulder will probably get you into trouble long before anyone notices your skin color.

+1 This guy is begging to get his ass kicked with his attitude... I bet he won't need a white guy to do it either...

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Sorry but if you've never experienced racism in Washington, Oregon, California or Hawaii you're either very lucky or don't get out much. However, I'm glad you realize that not every place in the US is like every other. Bottom line is that unless you have other reasons for not wanting to visit your friend, go and expand your horizons.

 

[MagicConch]

I grew up in rural Missouri in the late 70s (I am Indian) and I mostly had no problems at all so I can't imagine it's worse now. Most of the racism I dealt with were from cops both on and off duty, one even putting a note at our door saying "leave our neighborhood" but pretended to be pleasently nice the next day. The dumbass didn't realize the bs tickets he gave us were in the identical handwriting and I was there when he left the note. Anyhow the best part was that I was welcomed to be a redneck even though I was Indian and it was great, I enjoyed it

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: konakona
Still, I stand by my opinion you dont know how it feels unless you been there.

Please explain how it's necessary to "know how it feels" in order to know whether it's happening.

I'll be the first to admit that as a kid with German/Scottish heritage growing up in Ohio I never personally experienced discrimination when I was little. However, one of my best friends through high school and college was Pakistani. I didn't need to know how it felt to see the very obvious discrimination against him. Especially after 9/11, but it was not the greatest even before then.

This whole idea that whites are necessarily completely oblivious to racism is ridiculous. I'll agree that most of us have no idea what it feels like, but that has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on whether we can see it occurring.

ZV

What do you suppose you would call it when I was walking down the sidewalk in the ghetto in Battle Creek, and a group of blacks threatened to kick my ass for walking by one of their bicycles? I didn't do anything to them or their property. Was that racism?