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Anyone ever moved from the US to Canada

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LMAO. I didn't expect the thread to go this way, but let me add my voice to those advocating to stay down there. When I finish my degree I'm States-bound too. There is no market for software developers up here, and I'm in the biggest freaking city in Canada!

Our economic state, pathetic political process and crumbling infrastructure...I know it behooves me as a Canadian-born citizen to stay and try and do my part to rebuild the country but the political boondoggles we read about every day in the papers make it quite clear that nothing useful is going to take place for a long, long time. Canada never dares to think or build big. Gah.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
LMAO. I didn't expect the thread to go this way, but let me add my voice to those advocating to stay down there. When I finish my degree I'm States-bound too. There is no market for software developers up here, and I'm in the biggest freaking city in Canada!

Our economic state, pathetic political process and crumbling infrastructure...I know it behooves me as a Canadian-born citizen to stay and try and do my part to rebuild the country but the political boondoggles we read about every day in the papers make it quite clear that nothing useful is going to take place for a long, long time. Canada never dares to think or build big. Gah.
A lot of Canada's populous has grown so comfortable in its comfortable existence that it is unwilling to take chances on making it better, fearful that things will instead get worse. I can't even count how many times people say things, come election time, like "I really don't want to vote the Liberals in again, but such-and-such is just nuts, or bonkers.", and so they vote the liberals in again, and the liberals do exactly what they promised to do: Nothing.

The rest of Canada's political landscape is so scattered that not other party has a real shot at parliament against the liberals. In the US you've got two real parties that have any chance, and in Canada you've got one. What's Chretien's legacy?

Another problem is that Canadians are too socialistic. They love big government and handouts. This requires big taxes and at a the same time hinders ambition in the lower classes. The result is a much lower standard wage than the US and significantly higher unemployment. If you're poor and lazy Canada is your place to live, but if you want more rewards for your work, the US will give them more.

People like you, yllus, and me are examples of what's wrong with part of Canada. It gives us a nice cheap quality education, and we bring it down to the US, because we can't use it in Canada. In places like Nova scotia their answer to economic growth is not to create new jobs, but to create more university grads, in the feint hope that these people will be satisfied working in coffee shops or bars until they're 35 paying down student loans.
 
Man, so many Canadians bashing Canada! I would never want to move the the US... The main reason Canada is a good place to live is that Canadian 'society' is generally better than that in the US.

We are mostly nice people, reasonably tolerant of the views of others, less criminal, more co-operative, less hateful. From my discussions with Americans have come to the conclusion that American society is much more confrontational: all problems are turned into an 'us vs. them' situation, whether the subject is politics, economics, social values, international relations, etc. It's a much more dysfunctional way of looking at society, IMHO.
 
Originally posted by: DamnDirtyApe
Man, so many Canadians bashing Canada! I would never want to move the the US... The main reason Canada is a good place to live is that Canadian 'society' is generally better than that in the US.

We are mostly nice people, reasonably tolerant of the views of others, less criminal, more co-operative, less hateful. From my discussions with Americans have come to the conclusion that American society is much more confrontational: all problems are turned into an 'us vs. them' situation, whether the subject is politics, economics, social values, international relations, etc. It's a much more dysfunctional way of looking at society, IMHO.
Yep, and every problem in the world is, by some Candians' views, caused by the aggressive yanks, isn't it? 🙂 You can't deny that it's a national pastime in Canada to rip on the US. The problem is that a lot of people actually start to believe the jokes, most of which are funny but not very accurate.

In regards to the dysfunctional outlook, it's somewhat of a difficult argument considering that the US is unassailably the most successful country on the planet.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yep, and every problem in the world is, by some Candians' views, caused by the aggressive yanks, isn't it? 🙂 You can't deny that it's a national pastime in Canada to rip on the US. The problem is that a lot of people actually start to believe the jokes, most of which are funny but not very accurate.

I'll grant you that I do love the occasional anti-American joke, but you can hardly fault me for ripping on the US considering the whole point of this thread is to help decide which country the OP should live in.

In regards to the dysfunctional outlook, it's somewhat of a difficult argument considering that the US is unassailably the most successful country on the planet.

Economic and military success don't imply that the country's culture is healthy. Forgive me for the overused analogy, but I would hardly call the Roman Empire at the height of its power a nice place to live for the average person.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: DamnDirtyApe
Man, so many Canadians bashing Canada! I would never want to move the the US... The main reason Canada is a good place to live is that Canadian 'society' is generally better than that in the US.

We are mostly nice people, reasonably tolerant of the views of others, less criminal, more co-operative, less hateful. From my discussions with Americans have come to the conclusion that American society is much more confrontational: all problems are turned into an 'us vs. them' situation, whether the subject is politics, economics, social values, international relations, etc. It's a much more dysfunctional way of looking at society, IMHO.
Yep, and every problem in the world is, by some Candians' views, caused by the aggressive yanks, isn't it? 🙂 You can't deny that it's a national pastime in Canada to rip on the US. The problem is that a lot of people actually start to believe the jokes, most of which are funny but not very accurate.

In regards to the dysfunctional outlook, it's somewhat of a difficult argument considering that the US is unassailably the most successful country on the planet.

Iraq is a great success...

>2 million people in prison, woohoo (highest in world. world prison population ~8 million)

Millions in jail doesn't prevent extremely high crime rates in comparison to rest of the poorer western world

Racism Racism Racism

Students going $30,000 into debt for a B.A. degree

Christian Fanatics in the white house

Cops have the power to search your car with flimsy probable cause and arrest you for a joint

Christian Fanatic at the head of the Justice Department

Christian Fanatic Justice Scalia



Canada aint Shangri La, I know, but it has it's points.

My favorite quote from Chris Rock's new HBO special: "America is like an Uncle who paid your way through college, but molested you." i.e. Greatest place for economic opportunity, but home to some of the most fvcked up stuff in the world.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
People like you, yllus, and me are examples of what's wrong with part of Canada. It gives us a nice cheap quality education, and we bring it down to the US, because we can't use it in Canada. In places like Nova scotia their answer to economic growth is not to create new jobs, but to create more university grads, in the feint hope that these people will be satisfied working in coffee shops or bars until they're 35 paying down student loans.
I know. 🙂 It's the only thing that makes me feel guilty about my future plans. I'm getting a vastly subsidized quality education and will be actually graduating debt-free, then immediately taking my skills somewhere where I have a chance of getting something better than a crappy IT support position. Right now on Workopolis-Campus, there are three computer-related positions offered for new graduates. THREE. And two of them are "do some HTML work for us". Terrific...

I suppose like you and the missus, my family and I have paid our fair share of taxes for the honour of being a Canadian. Now if the whole culture of timidness would turn around and we could get some support from Bay St. to fund our entrepreneurs, we'd have something. Alas there's not much hope in sight for that. Dare to dream, stupid country o' mine.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: DamnDirtyApe
Man, so many Canadians bashing Canada! I would never want to move the the US... The main reason Canada is a good place to live is that Canadian 'society' is generally better than that in the US.

We are mostly nice people, reasonably tolerant of the views of others, less criminal, more co-operative, less hateful. From my discussions with Americans have come to the conclusion that American society is much more confrontational: all problems are turned into an 'us vs. them' situation, whether the subject is politics, economics, social values, international relations, etc. It's a much more dysfunctional way of looking at society, IMHO.
Yep, and every problem in the world is, by some Candians' views, caused by the aggressive yanks, isn't it? 🙂 You can't deny that it's a national pastime in Canada to rip on the US. The problem is that a lot of people actually start to believe the jokes, most of which are funny but not very accurate.

In regards to the dysfunctional outlook, it's somewhat of a difficult argument considering that the US is unassailably the most successful country on the planet.

Iraq is a great success...

>2 million people in prison, woohoo (highest in world. world prison population ~8 million)

Millions in jail doesn't prevent extremely high crime rates in comparison to rest of the poorer western world

Racism Racism Racism

Students going $30,000 into debt for a B.A. degree

Christian Fanatics in the white house

Cops have the power to search your car with flimsy probable cause and arrest you for a joint

Christian Fanatic at the head of the Justice Department

Christian Fanatic Justice Scalia



Canada aint Shangri La, I know, but it has it's points.

My favorite quote from Chris Rock's new HBO special: "America is like an Uncle who paid your way through college, but molested you." i.e. Greatest place for economic opportunity, but home to some of the fvcked up stuff in the world.
I really can't believe you just said that. If you think Iraq is so great, maybe you should move there.
 
Originally posted by: BornStar18
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: DamnDirtyApe
Man, so many Canadians bashing Canada! I would never want to move the the US... The main reason Canada is a good place to live is that Canadian 'society' is generally better than that in the US.

We are mostly nice people, reasonably tolerant of the views of others, less criminal, more co-operative, less hateful. From my discussions with Americans have come to the conclusion that American society is much more confrontational: all problems are turned into an 'us vs. them' situation, whether the subject is politics, economics, social values, international relations, etc. It's a much more dysfunctional way of looking at society, IMHO.
Yep, and every problem in the world is, by some Candians' views, caused by the aggressive yanks, isn't it? 🙂 You can't deny that it's a national pastime in Canada to rip on the US. The problem is that a lot of people actually start to believe the jokes, most of which are funny but not very accurate.

In regards to the dysfunctional outlook, it's somewhat of a difficult argument considering that the US is unassailably the most successful country on the planet.

Iraq is a great success...

>2 million people in prison, woohoo (highest in world. world prison population ~8 million)

Millions in jail doesn't prevent extremely high crime rates in comparison to rest of the poorer western world

Racism Racism Racism

Students going $30,000 into debt for a B.A. degree

Christian Fanatics in the white house

Cops have the power to search your car with flimsy probable cause and arrest you for a joint

Christian Fanatic at the head of the Justice Department

Christian Fanatic Justice Scalia



Canada aint Shangri La, I know, but it has it's points.

My favorite quote from Chris Rock's new HBO special: "America is like an Uncle who paid your way through college, but molested you." i.e. Greatest place for economic opportunity, but home to some of the fvcked up stuff in the world.
I really can't believe you just said that. If you think Iraq is so great, maybe you should move there.

Uh... ok mr. incoherent... Iraq was a reference to our colonial experiment that will kill thousands of innocent people. Go United States government!!!
 
Honestly speaking not too much difference, people are generally the same, (accept where I lived in the states there were more cacaision about 95% where i lived in the states there were cacauisions, here is all mixed). Next, heath care is free, I also dont know why people here bash the health care, when you need it, its always there and reliable. Only thing is it may be hard finding a doctor accepting new patients at first. Umm, what else.... hmm, ya about that job paying thing, yes i agree there are more job opurtunities in the states, but you can get really decent jobs here of 100K per year or more you just gotta look at the right places 😀

Also people seem to like canadian chocolates better, they taste different compared to american. Next not a lot of toll highways, and most of the action here is in the cities, (action = jobs, entertainment, etc...). Sometimes the winter lasts up to April. Canadians generally like Americans, you should have no problems in that, we welcome americans here. Generally people are kind and good, of course with the exception of the ocasional crazy guy or gal. BTW over here the major political debats are mostly tax, schooling, and health care.

Anything else? also a question, what did bad things did you hear about our postal service? I have had no problems sending things within the country, only problem I have ever heard of was COD problems, (money talking long time to arrive to seller) and cross board delays.

Ok one thing, i will admit, the thing that Canadians al most everywhere say is that America uses its military too much, thats the only critism i really hear over here. Nothing else we dont hate americans we like them.

Great place to live, and if you watched Bowling for Columbine and are wondering if everyones door is really unlocked, its true, in the city, in a lot of places. A great portion of the public does not lock its doors. But most people still do.


Anything I'm missing here? any questions?
Originally posted by: DeathByAnts
Originally posted by: BullyCanadian
ok, i ahve moved from Canada to America, back to Canada, and then back to America and finally back to Canada, what do u need to know? (I'm 18 now and the last time i moved from America to Canada was when I was 15)

How all is it different from the US (granted, there are millions of things, but I am talking about the things a person would not normally think of). I know there is a screwey postal service there🙂
 
Originally posted by: BullyCanadian
Honestly speaking not too much difference, people are generally the same, (accept where I lived in the states there were more cacaision about 95% where i lived in the states there were cacauisions, here is all mixed). Next, heath care is free, I also dont know why people here bash the health care, when you need it, its always there and reliable. Only thing is it may be hard finding a doctor accepting new patients at first. Umm, what else.... hmm, ya about that job paying thing, yes i agree there are more job opurtunities in the states, but you can get really decent jobs here of 100K per year or more you just gotta look at the right places 😀

Structure Problems:

"not too much difference" == "people are generally the same", no need to say both

"accept where I lived in the states there were more cacaision about 95% where i lived in the states there were cacauisions", I don't really see the need to say everything twice

Grammar Problems:

"its always there", unless the health care system owns the word always, it should be "it's"

Spelling Problems:

"accept" should be "except" in that context
"cacaision" and "cacauisions" should be "caucasian"
"opurtunities" should be "opportunities"

Open Debate With What You Said:

"health care is free", no it's not. It's paid for by the tax dollars that come out of your pocket and the pockets of everyone else. It's hardly free. You're just so used to a Liberal government, you think it's free because they've taxed you blind.

"but you can get really decent jobs here of 100K per year or more", maybe, but I know that you aren't earning a six figure salary because your writing is horrible. Did you ever consider thinking before you write? Did you ever consider that writing is different from conversation? When you write, you can go back and correct any errors and remove "umms". Most people don't actually WANT to say "umm", they do it to fill blank air time between thoughts. The fact that you've actually written in "umms" bothers me on so many levels.

Also people seem to like canadian chocolates better, they taste different compared to american. Next not a lot of toll highways, and most of the action here is in the cities, (action = jobs, entertainment, etc...). Sometimes the winter lasts up to April. Canadians generally like Americans, you should have no problems in that, we welcome americans here. Generally people are kind and good, of course with the exception of the ocasional crazy guy or gal. BTW over here the major political debats are mostly tax, schooling, and health care.

Anything else? also a question, what did bad things did you hear about our postal service? I have had no problems sending things within the country, only problem I have ever heard of was COD problems, (money talking long time to arrive to seller) and cross board delays.

Ok one thing, i will admit, the thing that Canadians al most everywhere say is that America uses its military too much, thats the only critism i really hear over here. Nothing else we dont hate americans we like them.

Great place to live, and if you watched Bowling for Columbine and are wondering if everyones door is really unlocked, its true, in the city, in a lot of places. A great portion of the public does not lock its doors. But most people still do.

I could go on forever, but this one really bothered me:

"A great portion of the public does not lock its doors. But most people still do.", Do I really need to spell out the problem with this logic?

- Alphathree33, keeping the world from descending into the land of the apes, one person at a time
 
Originally posted by: buyer262000
Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm thinking about it as well. I don't know a lot about canada, but I like the government healthcare, Canadians are nice and I have some family in Nova Scotia and Quebec. I don't think I would want to live in quebec. I'm thinking Ontario since its close.

Plus, the housing costs in vermont are getting so high it looks like I might be forced to move somewhere else. And I'm sort of thinking about canada...how are the jobs up there?

Housing is cheap in Arkansas, I got a 3 bedroom nice house for 400$ a month. . .

Holy crap that's cheap.
 
The real answer is both countries suck. Sometimes for the same reasons, sometimes for different reasons. It's a question of what type of suck you would rather have.
 
Students going $30,000 into debt for a B.A. degree
Well in Canada maybe it's $20k, but then you'll be paying it off working teller at futureshop anyway.
Racism Racism Racism
I live in Alabama, where you'd think a lot of that exists. I'm sure it's here, but I've never been witness to it except in MAYBE small cases of getting unpreferential treatment by Black women at fast food joints. That's it.

Canada isn't racists because they're all freaking white. How many Blacks live in nova scotia? Like 7. The other minorities are native indians, who stay on their reserves, then people from India in a small amount, and people from Asia, again in a small amount. The US is FAR more of a melting pot race-wise than Canada, at least by my estimation - it sure is in Nova Scotia, anyway 🙂

I seem to recall that 10 x as many Canadians immigrate to the US than the other way around.
It's the only thing that makes me feel guilty about my future plans. I'm getting a vastly subsidized quality education and will be actually graduating debt-free, then immediately taking my skills somewhere where I have a chance of getting something better than a crappy IT support position.
Such feelings of guilt will quickly leave you when you've just topped a half year of unemployment and you're starting to see if you can find a job paying $25k with your university education. That sh*t will piss a person off. I have no shame for using Canada's faulted educational setup to benefit myself. Canada should blame itself, not the people who leave looking for - and finding - greener pastures.
Next, heath care is free, I also dont know why people here bash the health care, when you need it, its always there and reliable. Only thing is it may be hard finding a doctor accepting new patients at first.
It's no more free than the military is free. Just because everybody has it doesn't mean it's free. Canadians take it in the rear covering the health care system in Canada. Can't find a doctor? You're not the only one. Move to the US and you'll find one. The only thing reliable about it is that it's not very fast. I know somebody recently who's doctor wanted them to have an MRI. It wasn't an emergency - just something to do. A week later they had it done. How long would that have taken in Canada? The health care system is severely overworked in Canada. Selfishly I know that I'll always be in the top half economically, so why should I for my health and my family's suffer under the same guidelines as everybody else? If you're a billionaire in Canada or a pauper you get the same care. In the US if you're well off you will get better care. Hey it sucks if you're poor, but if you're not poor it's not too bad!
Next not a lot of toll highways
There are few in the US too, even though tollhighways are a good idea.
Great place to live, and if you watched Bowling for Columbine and are wondering if everyones door is really unlocked, its true, in the city, in a lot of places. A great portion of the public does not lock its doors. But most people still do.
Everyone I know always locked them 🙂
 
I have actually moved from the US to Canada recently and am still in the process. So I have a fresh up to date information on a lot of it. PM me for direct details if you want my help 🙂
 
Originally posted by: richardycc
how does an US citizen become a permanent resident in Canada? what are the steps?
If you lose your documents it makes it much easier.

You first become a landed immigrant, and then a citizen. It's like the same as becoming one in the US, but faster and easier.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
LMAO. I didn't expect the thread to go this way, but let me add my voice to those advocating to stay down there. When I finish my degree I'm States-bound too. There is no market for software developers up here, and I'm in the biggest freaking city in Canada!

Our economic state, pathetic political process and crumbling infrastructure...I know it behooves me as a Canadian-born citizen to stay and try and do my part to rebuild the country but the political boondoggles we read about every day in the papers make it quite clear that nothing useful is going to take place for a long, long time. Canada never dares to think or build big. Gah.

Is boondoggles really a word? And if so could you define it for me I would kind of like to start using it?

One plus for Canada is that you can smoke and possess marijuana much more freely!😀
 
Originally posted by: richardycc
how does an US citizen become a permanent resident in Canada? what are the steps?

You first become a landed immigrant and then after 3 years you can become a citizen... You can also retain your american citizenship now which the Us made you renounce years ago. So now you can be a dual citizen.

depends on how you are entering? If you will have a family class visa, then you will have a sponsor and its pretty much cut n dry you fill out forms, medical exam, pictures, fingerprints... and wait for an answer.. cost $500 for initial non-refundable application... $975 for right of permanent residence landing fee, $150 roughly for medical exam, FBI fingerprints $18, and photos were like $40 i think...

I hired a lawyer.. which was also an additional $2500

To enter on an independent visa, You will need all of the above plus, to show proof of finances(showing you can support yourself until you can land a job, i think this amount is like 10k, not sure), it's helpful to be in a field that they need professionals also. you can find out a lot of stuff on Canadian immigration
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Students going $30,000 into debt for a B.A. degree
Well in Canada maybe it's $20k, but then you'll be paying it off working teller at futureshop anyway.
Racism Racism Racism
I live in Alabama, where you'd think a lot of that exists. I'm sure it's here, but I've never been witness to it except in MAYBE small cases of getting unpreferential treatment by Black women at fast food joints. That's it.

Canada isn't racists because they're all freaking white. How many Blacks live in nova scotia? Like 7. The other minorities are native indians, who stay on their reserves, then people from India in a small amount, and people from Asia, again in a small amount. The US is FAR more of a melting pot race-wise than Canada, at least by my estimation - it sure is in Nova Scotia, anyway 🙂

I seem to recall that 10 x as many Canadians immigrate to the US than the other way around.
It's the only thing that makes me feel guilty about my future plans. I'm getting a vastly subsidized quality education and will be actually graduating debt-free, then immediately taking my skills somewhere where I have a chance of getting something better than a crappy IT support position.
Such feelings of guilt will quickly leave you when you've just topped a half year of unemployment and you're starting to see if you can find a job paying $25k with your university education. That sh*t will piss a person off. I have no shame for using Canada's faulted educational setup to benefit myself. Canada should blame itself, not the people who leave looking for - and finding - greener pastures.
Next, heath care is free, I also dont know why people here bash the health care, when you need it, its always there and reliable. Only thing is it may be hard finding a doctor accepting new patients at first.
It's no more free than the military is free. Just because everybody has it doesn't mean it's free. Canadians take it in the rear covering the health care system in Canada. Can't find a doctor? You're not the only one. Move to the US and you'll find one. The only thing reliable about it is that it's not very fast. I know somebody recently who's doctor wanted them to have an MRI. It wasn't an emergency - just something to do. A week later they had it done. How long would that have taken in Canada? The health care system is severely overworked in Canada. Selfishly I know that I'll always be in the top half economically, so why should I for my health and my family's suffer under the same guidelines as everybody else? If you're a billionaire in Canada or a pauper you get the same care. In the US if you're well off you will get better care. Hey it sucks if you're poor, but if you're not poor it's not too bad!
Next not a lot of toll highways
There are few in the US too, even though tollhighways are a good idea.
Great place to live, and if you watched Bowling for Columbine and are wondering if everyones door is really unlocked, its true, in the city, in a lot of places. A great portion of the public does not lock its doors. But most people still do.
Everyone I know always locked them 🙂

I don't know why people are having problems finding doctors. There are at least 2 doctor's offices within walking distance from my apartment that say right on the front window: NO APPOINTMENT NEEDED. Regular family doctory type places too...
 
Quite Frankly Alphathree33, I dont give a rats ass what you think about my post. If DeathByAnts has any problems or questions about anything i wrote, i want him/her to ask me.
Originally posted by: Alphathree33
Originally posted by: BullyCanadian
Honestly speaking not too much difference, people are generally the same, (accept where I lived in the states there were more cacaision about 95% where i lived in the states there were cacauisions, here is all mixed). Next, heath care is free, I also dont know why people here bash the health care, when you need it, its always there and reliable. Only thing is it may be hard finding a doctor accepting new patients at first. Umm, what else.... hmm, ya about that job paying thing, yes i agree there are more job opurtunities in the states, but you can get really decent jobs here of 100K per year or more you just gotta look at the right places 😀

Structure Problems:

"not too much difference" == "people are generally the same", no need to say both

"accept where I lived in the states there were more cacaision about 95% where i lived in the states there were cacauisions", I don't really see the need to say everything twice

Grammar Problems:

"its always there", unless the health care system owns the word always, it should be "it's"

Spelling Problems:

"accept" should be "except" in that context
"cacaision" and "cacauisions" should be "caucasian"
"opurtunities" should be "opportunities"

Open Debate With What You Said:

"health care is free", no it's not. It's paid for by the tax dollars that come out of your pocket and the pockets of everyone else. It's hardly free. You're just so used to a Liberal government, you think it's free because they've taxed you blind.

"but you can get really decent jobs here of 100K per year or more", maybe, but I know that you aren't earning a six figure salary because your writing is horrible. Did you ever consider thinking before you write? Did you ever consider that writing is different from conversation? When you write, you can go back and correct any errors and remove "umms". Most people don't actually WANT to say "umm", they do it to fill blank air time between thoughts. The fact that you've actually written in "umms" bothers me on so many levels.

Also people seem to like canadian chocolates better, they taste different compared to american. Next not a lot of toll highways, and most of the action here is in the cities, (action = jobs, entertainment, etc...). Sometimes the winter lasts up to April. Canadians generally like Americans, you should have no problems in that, we welcome americans here. Generally people are kind and good, of course with the exception of the ocasional crazy guy or gal. BTW over here the major political debats are mostly tax, schooling, and health care.

Anything else? also a question, what did bad things did you hear about our postal service? I have had no problems sending things within the country, only problem I have ever heard of was COD problems, (money talking long time to arrive to seller) and cross board delays.

Ok one thing, i will admit, the thing that Canadians al most everywhere say is that America uses its military too much, thats the only critism i really hear over here. Nothing else we dont hate americans we like them.

Great place to live, and if you watched Bowling for Columbine and are wondering if everyones door is really unlocked, its true, in the city, in a lot of places. A great portion of the public does not lock its doors. But most people still do.

I could go on forever, but this one really bothered me:

"A great portion of the public does not lock its doors. But most people still do.", Do I really need to spell out the problem with this logic?

- Alphathree33, keeping the world from descending into the land of the apes, one person at a time
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: buyer262000
Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm thinking about it as well. I don't know a lot about canada, but I like the government healthcare, Canadians are nice and I have some family in Nova Scotia and Quebec. I don't think I would want to live in quebec. I'm thinking Ontario since its close.

Plus, the housing costs in vermont are getting so high it looks like I might be forced to move somewhere else. And I'm sort of thinking about canada...how are the jobs up there?

Housing is cheap in Arkansas, I got a 3 bedroom nice house for 400$ a month. . .

Holy crap that's cheap.

I'll let you rent my tool shed for some canucks tickets 😉

Cheers,
Aquaman
 
If the Canadian "Conservative Alliance Party" was in power right now, you would all be calling Canada "America Lite". The Liberal Party is very similar to your Democrats, maybe a little more to the left. Our Conservatives are just like your Republicans. You know, Christian fundamentalism, legalize gay-bashing, make gay marriages illegal, ban abortions, give everyone access to guns, etc etc etc.

In any event, I'm very happy here and I'm surprised to see such bickering over such small differences between our two great lands. We really are like cousins, not all that different.
 
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