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Anyone else thought the new Potter film sucked?

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Nah, I was in AP english actually. Just hated what the establishment decided should be classic literature. The Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, Moby Dick...every one of those books was god awful to read.
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The last two were bad, but to ignorantly use the word "establishment" cues me to believe you are not far out of high school.

Leave the accusations of "establishment," "corporate," "commercialized" to the unwashed hippies.
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Maybe you're right, establishment could be too unrefined a word for a bunch of stuck up, snobbish, over read elitists. But for ease of simplicity, I'm sticking with it. Well lets get a list of some other things you've read and find fascinating. To judge you on for your taste in one book would be so ATOT of me.
 
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Nah, I was in AP english actually. Just hated what the establishment decided should be classic literature. The Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, Moby Dick...every one of those books was god awful to read.
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The last two were bad, but to ignorantly use the word "establishment" cues me to believe you are not far out of high school.

Leave the accusations of "establishment," "corporate," "commercialized" to the unwashed hippies.
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Maybe you're right, establishment could be too unrefined a word for a bunch of stuck up, snobbish, over read elitists. But for ease of simplicity, I'm sticking with it. Well lets get a list of some other things you've read and find fascinating. To judge you on for your taste in one book would be so ATOT of me.
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Gatsby's 5 Greatest Books (Fiction) of All Time.
1. The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
2. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
3. The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
4. Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
5. We the Living by Ayn Rand

I simply like the "style" of the upperclasses of the 1920s, which The Great Gatsby presents perfectly. Ayn Rand's books present my philosophy of life, and I admire the book Lolita simply because it's written so beautifully.

And if you want to know more, I believe Morrissey is the greatest musician/songwriter in the history of the world.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Nah, I was in AP english actually. Just hated what the establishment decided should be classic literature. The Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, Moby Dick...every one of those books was god awful to read.
Click to expand...

The last two were bad, but to ignorantly use the word "establishment" cues me to believe you are not far out of high school.

Leave the accusations of "establishment," "corporate," "commercialized" to the unwashed hippies.
Click to expand...

Maybe you're right, establishment could be too unrefined a word for a bunch of stuck up, snobbish, over read elitists. But for ease of simplicity, I'm sticking with it. Well lets get a list of some other things you've read and find fascinating. To judge you on for your taste in one book would be so ATOT of me.
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Gatsby's 5 Greatest Books (Fiction) of All Time.
1. The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
2. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
3. The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
4. Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
5. We the Living by Ayn Rand

I simply like the "style" of the upperclasses of the 1920s, which The Great Gatsby presents perfectly. Ayn Rand's books present my philosophy of life, and I admire the book Lolita simply because it's written so beautifully.

And if you want to know more, I believe Morrissey is the greatest musician/songwriter in the history of the world.
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Ahhh god. We are definitely at two opposite ends of the spectrum here my friend. Give me a Clive Cussler novel and some Chuck Berry any day. As far as the classics go, Call of the Wild was pretty good and Louis Lamour and Zane Grey wrote some damn good Westerns. 20's high society and flappers would bore me to death though. The gangster scene and prohibition though, wicked cool. Now away with your Harry Potter hating self!
 
I had a long succession of stunningly dull English teachers. Gatsby, I've read most of your list (the exception, ironically, being Gatsby) but after repeated atempts to find English teachers who didn't induce narcolpsy, I stayed out of the English major.

I thought that the latest HP movie tried too hard to jam everything into a too-short movie, and the special effects budget was a bit high, but overall it was a fun film. Not high art, but quite decent entertainment. I'll buy it when the DVD hits $15 or so.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Anyone who is over the age of 12 and goes to see the Harry Potter movie deserves punishment.
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Well I guess the entire theater viewing I went to deserves punishment. No one under twelve. Highest demographic was 14-18 girls and adults.


The movies was very good. People tend to agree...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0330373/

What was better? Acting was much improved, better action scenes, and comedy relief. They stayed true to the book's theme and didn't make it a kid's movie.

Music was worse. Of course, some book fans (I am myself) will complain that they didn't put in 10 hours of other material that was in the book.
 
I'm 27 and I loved it. Every HP movie has been better than the one before. I will read the books one of these days, but I've got 15 books on my list right now before them, and I'm a slow reader.

If you can't still be a kid after you get older, I feel sorry for you.

But then again, you're probably 12 yourself.
 
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I like the Great Gatsby. HATED MOBY DICK!!! Never read Catcher in the Rye
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I wasn't required to read The Great Gatsby but I was forced to read Moby Dick and Catcher in the Rye. Catcher is a great book and oh so appropriate for the ATOT crowd. 😀

What I hated were those Shakespeare plays.
 
I didn't like The Great Gatsby for some reason, maybe I will try to read it again.

Right now I am enjoying this, his other book: that isn't bad, though much longer and drier if you aren't interested in history of the world and how societies came to be.

For fiction, I love R R Martin, and Orson Scott Card

As for Harry Potter movies, I see them knowing they will suck, but I think they are much better than crappy action flicks.

Haven't seen the fourth one, but probably will, I thought the third one was the most terrible.

Oh, I haven't read the books, "12 year olds, dude"
 
I thought the third movie was great. I didn't like the first or second, and this new fourth one was just ok. I haven't read the books.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Nah, I was in AP english actually. Just hated what the establishment decided should be classic literature. The Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, Moby Dick...every one of those books was god awful to read.
Click to expand...

The last two were bad, but to ignorantly use the word "establishment" cues me to believe you are not far out of high school.

Leave the accusations of "establishment," "corporate," "commercialized" to the unwashed hippies.
Click to expand...

Maybe you're right, establishment could be too unrefined a word for a bunch of stuck up, snobbish, over read elitists. But for ease of simplicity, I'm sticking with it. Well lets get a list of some other things you've read and find fascinating. To judge you on for your taste in one book would be so ATOT of me.
Click to expand...

Gatsby's 5 Greatest Books (Fiction) of All Time.
1. The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
2. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
3. The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
4. Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
5. We the Living by Ayn Rand

I simply like the "style" of the upperclasses of the 1920s, which The Great Gatsby presents perfectly. Ayn Rand's books present my philosophy of life, and I admire the book Lolita simply because it's written so beautifully.

And if you want to know more, I believe Morrissey is the greatest musician/songwriter in the history of the world.
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3 ayn rand books in your top 5? You really do need to end yourself, lol.
 
Originally posted by: brigden
I thought the films thus far have been largely hit or miss and this one missed pretty badly. Nothing happened! After an hour and a half, I turned to my GF and asked, "Have you any idea where this film is going?"

I feel as if they've remade the same film three times.
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The movie lacked fluid storytelling for about the first half.

Overall, a VERY MEDIOCRE effort. Markedly the worst of all Potter movies!
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: brigden
I thought the films thus far have been largely hit or miss and this one missed pretty badly. Nothing happened! After an hour and a half, I turned to my GF and asked, "Have you any idea where this film is going?"

I feel as if they've remade the same film three times.
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The movie lacked fluid storytelling for about the first half.

Overall, a VERY MEDIOCRE effort. Markedly the worst of all Potter movies!
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It had to be the easiest of the four movies to follow. There were three tasks, we knew that Voldemort wanted Harry, and that someone wanted Harry to participate in the tasks. Very simple plot.

Of course it can't match the story telling of the book, but you shouldn't judge it next to the books. As far as movies go, it's rated highest on imdb. However, it is only slightly higher than Azkaban, and it's early in the voting process.

The movie could have been so much worse. They could have tried to force it as PG for instance.
 
I thought it was a pretty good movie myself. I'm not sure how I'm going to live with myself now that I've lost the respect of the english language man-god JLGatsby though! Oh how I long for his pretentious acceptence.

😛
 
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: brigden
I thought the films thus far have been largely hit or miss and this one missed pretty badly. Nothing happened! After an hour and a half, I turned to my GF and asked, "Have you any idea where this film is going?"

I feel as if they've remade the same film three times.
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I thought it was great. 89% on RT too, so I think you're in the great minority on this one.
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Yup. Books are better though.
 
Originally posted by: ShadowBlade
Originally posted by: ohmide
Of course the book was better but they did a good job for the amount of material they had to shove in.
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Exactly. With a (IIRC) 734 page book, and 2.5 hours of time to tell it, it could have been much worse.

I'm a great fan of the books, but the movies have always been so-so IMO. My GF is really into the movies, so I went anyway (with her).

The movie skipped along a lot, with a few scenes totally deleted or compacted so to time constraints. (The Quiddich World Cup at the beginning is a prime example of this.)

It would have to have been 3.5 hours+ to have fluid transitions and the whole book transfered to film, which is too long for most mortals.

I'll see the fifth movie when it comes out too, I'm sure, but to fulfill my curiosity, not because I think they are that great movies.
 
I liked Gatsby pretty well. Never read Moby Dick and didn't find it worth my time to read more than the first few pages of Catcher. However, Wuthering Heights is one of the most abused (on the forums) interesting books I've read. I like mysteries and "Ender's Game" as well as the rest, but there's something about classic lit that is just plain edifying to the intellect.
 
I liked the movie. They cut the book in exact right places. There were a couple of moments that could've been done better, but overall - a very good rendition.

As for GGatsby - the most dull and boring book I ever read. I thought Dostoevskiy's 'Crime and Punishment' would take the cake, but Gatsby easily takes the prize here.
 
Originally posted by: paulney
I liked the movie. They cut the book in exact right places. There were a couple of moments that could've been done better, but overall - a very good rendition.

As for GGatsby - the most dull and boring book I ever read. I thought Dostoevskiy's 'Crime and Punishment' would take the cake, but Gatsby easily takes the prize here.
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You have to be kidding or have read an abridged version of Crime and Punishment. Gatsby is, at least, WAY easier to read.
 
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