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Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
then you shouldn't say it doesn't require practice

if you were to SPIN, a turntable would be your instrument

it takes alot of work to produce a GOOD track, and if you can't appreciate the time/effort required to make a GOOD track, oh well

I'm not putting it down and I do like a lot of it. I'm just saying that a lot of it sounds crappy. There are some great artists out there doing it, but I hear a lot of music that's crap - stuff that you know right off the bat that nobody is going to be interested in after a few years. That's the stuff I avoid, or try to. I like a number of artists who work electronically. Blevin Blechtum is a local female techno artist I dig. I am fascinated with what John Oswald does - "Plunderphonics". That stuff takes a LOT of work and I think it's great. But what Oswald does is different from most electronic artists. He used to work with razor blades and tape, I think. Now I'm sure he does it digitally.
 

Funny my mind was wrapped in the subject of techno and someone I knew whose interest lies in there. Maybe you'll like his music. He goes by. . . .

Try his song. I guarantee you that you won't be disappointed. ;) Tell me if you're disappointed. I'll have to chew on my words.

Edit: Information removed. None of your business, frankly. My bad. . . . :p
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: Xionide
Alright a while back (1996) I started listening to techno, I really like it. Mostly like aphex twin (window licker kicked arse) moby was alright, I like sandstorm but you can only listen to so much lightstick music before you go insane. Crystal method is awsome in my opinion. But this new disco crap is REALLY starting to piss me off. Disco is dead, let it stay that way. I hate turning on my local techno station and hearing daft punk play that lame crap. It was cute for a while, sort of mixing it a little with it. But now i cant find any damn music i can listen too. Anyone else feel the same?

Oh and techno fans. Go out and rent "kevin and perry go large" just do it right now, dont even sign off the net. Its funnier then hell.

aight...what your listening too isnt techno at ALL...so dont say techno is going down...because you need to listen to some real techno...

aphex twin and crystal method...are GOOD but you need to give real techon a chance...

check it out at...

digitallyimported.com

they are raising money right...maybe we can help support abit...because they are really a great service...128k quality stream...ROCK ON
 

DigDug

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"paul oakenfold - tranceport
paul oakenfold - traveling
paul oakenfold - live in china
dj tiesto - summer breeze
dj tiesto - in search of sunrise 3
global underground 21 - deep dish - moscow
global underground 12 - dave seaman - buenos aires
paul van *** - out there and back
dave seaman - renaissance desire
deep dish - renaissance ibiza
nick warren - renaissance revelation"

This quasi-fratboy-friendly trance music is what KILLED electronic music. Electronic music was such an inspired art form, with some really sincere vibes behind it. This dj-as-a-star crap turned electronic music into the european version of green-day. Paul Oakenfield and his Ibiza crap is like watching a girls-gone-wild video. What the hell...
I personally would recommend a return to the disco elements. I really wish it cold be like circa 1992-1994 again. Man, that was the time.....

 

Platypus

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Apr 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: BlipBlop
"paul oakenfold - tranceport
paul oakenfold - traveling
paul oakenfold - live in china
dj tiesto - summer breeze
dj tiesto - in search of sunrise 3
global underground 21 - deep dish - moscow
global underground 12 - dave seaman - buenos aires
paul van *** - out there and back
dave seaman - renaissance desire
deep dish - renaissance ibiza
nick warren - renaissance revelation"

This quasi-fratboy-friendly trance music is what KILLED electronic music. Electronic music was such an inspired art form, with some really sincere vibes behind it. This dj-as-a-star crap turned electronic music into the european version of green-day. Paul Oakenfield and his Ibiza crap is like watching a girls-gone-wild video. What the hell...
I personally would recommend a return to the disco elements. I really wish it cold be like circa 1992-1994 again. Man, that was the time.....


I am glad I am not the only one who feels that way.
 

DigDug

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Mar 21, 2002
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Autechre (earlier stuff, up to and including Tri Repetae)
Orb
Cabaret Voltaire
Orbital
Scanner
Richard H. Kirk
The Black Dog
Aphex Twin (Saw 85-92, SAW II, and his alter egos, Polygon Window, etc.)
Mu-ziq
Coldcut
Nightmares on Wax
Sun Electric
KLF
Banco de Gaia

oh man....
 

cchen

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Originally posted by: yoda291
You do realize that disco is like THE grandaddy of all electronic music right?

actually, music concréte is
 

Schadenfroh

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i dont like where techno has been, i dont like where it is, and i dont like where it is going (unless to the grave)
 

DigDug

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haha

you are right, but his point was that moving towards disco is a regression and not falling into the toilet of a new unchartered territory.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: BlipBlop
"paul oakenfold - tranceport
paul oakenfold - traveling
paul oakenfold - live in china
dj tiesto - summer breeze
dj tiesto - in search of sunrise 3
global underground 21 - deep dish - moscow
global underground 12 - dave seaman - buenos aires
paul van *** - out there and back
dave seaman - renaissance desire
deep dish - renaissance ibiza
nick warren - renaissance revelation"

This quasi-fratboy-friendly trance music is what KILLED electronic music. Electronic music was such an inspired art form, with some really sincere vibes behind it. This dj-as-a-star crap turned electronic music into the european version of green-day. Paul Oakenfield and his Ibiza crap is like watching a girls-gone-wild video. What the hell...
I personally would recommend a return to the disco elements. I really wish it cold be like circa 1992-1994 again. Man, that was the time.....

ok, blame it on oakenfold, but tiesto or deep dish had nothing to do with that whole 'starry eyed supprise lets play trance/techno music on mtv' bs.

 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
then you shouldn't say it doesn't require practice

if you were to SPIN, a turntable would be your instrument

it takes alot of work to produce a GOOD track, and if you can't appreciate the time/effort required to make a GOOD track, oh well

I'm not putting it down and I do like a lot of it. I'm just saying that a lot of it sounds crappy. There are some great artists out there doing it, but I hear a lot of music that's crap - stuff that you know right off the bat that nobody is going to be interested in after a few years. That's the stuff I avoid, or try to. I like a number of artists who work electronically. Blevin Blechtum is a local female techno artist I dig. I am fascinated with what John Oswald does - "Plunderphonics". That stuff takes a LOT of work and I think it's great. But what Oswald does is different from most electronic artists. He used to work with razor blades and tape, I think. Now I'm sure he does it digitally.


like you can't say that about any other genre
 

DigDug

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Mar 21, 2002
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The great problem with digital music is that it is so easy to make uninspired, yet well-produced music. I used to compose electronic music (wavestation, Asr-10, JD-800, the works). Alot of the "impressive" stuff is just patches for software generators, arpeggiators and, yes, alot of "knob-twiddling". It's kind of like the Napster effect - input overload devalues it all.
 

NewSc2

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Apr 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
disco is bad no matter what form it crops up in

where can you find pleasure, search the world for treasure,
learn science technology?

where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
on the land or on the sea?

where can you learn to fly, playing sports or skin dive
study oceanography?

sign up for the big band, or sit in the grandstand
when your team and others meet

in the navy!
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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Yeah, w/o reading the second half of all the posts, "techno" as a general term is too broad to pinpoint. It's not going in any one certain direction. If you're listening Crystal Method, Aphex Twin and Moby, you're really really limiting yourself to certain types of music...branch out a little more, maybe you'll find something new you like. There's a new genre opening up every day. ^_^

And just so I can brag: DJ TIESTO'S SPINNING AT BLEU IN DETROIT MAY 15TH!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Yeah, w/o reading the second half of all the posts, "techno" as a general term is too broad to pinpoint. It's not going in any one certain direction. If you're listening Crystal Method, Aphex Twin and Moby, you're really really limiting yourself to certain types of music...branch out a little more, maybe you'll find something new you like. There's a new genre opening up every day. ^_^

And just so I can brag: DJ TIESTO'S SPINNING AT BLEU IN DETROIT MAY 15TH!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D

too bad tiesto blows

are you ready for anthem. anthem anthem anthem anthem anthem?

lol, tiesto is a joke when he plays in the states
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Yeah, w/o reading the second half of all the posts, "techno" as a general term is too broad to pinpoint. It's not going in any one certain direction. If you're listening Crystal Method, Aphex Twin and Moby, you're really really limiting yourself to certain types of music...branch out a little more, maybe you'll find something new you like. There's a new genre opening up every day. ^_^

And just so I can brag: DJ TIESTO'S SPINNING AT BLEU IN DETROIT MAY 15TH!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D

too bad tiesto blows

are you ready for anthem. anthem anthem anthem anthem anthem?

lol, tiesto is a joke when he plays in the states

shuddup, don't burst my bubble, this is my first time seeing just him. ^_^
 

Xionide

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Apr 20, 2002
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The way i see techno is this. There is techno, and techno branches out into the other types of elelctronic music, house rave, dance, Whatever. Im just trying to put in to non techno expierenced terms. Im mainly talking about the crap that floats to the top of the bucket turning into disco crap preventing the good stuff to surface. Im not saying that all types of techno are turning into disco. And yes i do listen to more music then that, just sort of pointing out the stuff i mainly listen to.
 

Demosthenes

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Jul 23, 2000
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duuuudee the electronica scene is takin off all over. you just gotta look in the right places, not everything is layed out for you on a daily top 10 list like MTV..
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Xionide
The way i see techno is this. There is techno, and techno branches out into the other types of elelctronic music, house rave, dance, Whatever. Im just trying to put in to non techno expierenced terms. Im mainly talking about the crap that floats to the top of the bucket turning into disco crap preventing the good stuff to surface. Im not saying that all types of techno are turning into disco. And yes i do listen to more music then that, just sort of pointing out the stuff i mainly listen to.

how do you know people out there doesn't like disco house? just cuz you don't liek it doesn't mean your listeners won't, and vice versa
 

GermyBoy

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Jun 5, 2001
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I've always hated where techno has been. Worse than rap if you ask me, but I wouldn't listen to either.