Anyone else embarassed by our President (US)?

[huanaku]

He wasn't there when we needed him. After the fact, I could care less. What, he lets everyone die and then rolls out from his bunker to let us know he's all right and he feels bad. That's pathetic

I think President Bush acted well. As for the above comment, I don't understand what you are trying to say. he let everyone die? are you blaming him for "letting" people die? Is it his fault that the WTC was destroyed? What more could have been done in this situation? Giuliani was on TV last night saying that New York had too many volunteers to help at the WTC ...

 

[Kipper]

I've got to respond to the original post...

I was very disappointed with Bush, that's correct. But given his actions in dodging the draft during Vietnam by joining the Peace Corps, I can't say that it's any surprise. Kennedy had the guts to stay in Washington during the original Cuban Missile Crisis, where the threat was just as prevalent and just as real. Bush, on the other hand, is nowhere near the scope of the President which Kennedy was...at least so far.

 

[KBrinks]

well boohoo... then hop in your time machine and go back to president kennedys term... we are living in the present day... get over it

 

[jcuadrado]

people....dont waste your time with people like snow or jehh...


if you have to complain, bitch and whine about the US and you live here...then simply get out then....

live somewhere else and stop your useless meaningless thread that will not help the situation.

just remember thousands are dead...family members are gone...be sensitive you idiots. Our president must protect himself moron...because if he gets wasted...then we're ALL in heep loads of trouble...

come mierda..

 

[aUt0eXebat]

get a life, He is the President of The US, what do you want him to do, go right into the city? moron

 

[StageLeft]

After watching all the events unfolding today I was quite struck by the cowardice of our commander-in-chief. As millions of New Yorkers and people around the DC area feared for there lives, where was our President? As Mayor Giuliani, Governor Pitacki, and members of the House and Senate rushed to the scenes of the attacks and were visible to comfort the nation, the President was running with his tail between his legs to Omaha.

Thats what the president does. If somebody tries to assasinate he doesn't draw a piece and square off with them. He knew, as well as everyone around him knew, that if he acted like a clown and found himself dead it would screw the country even more. A leader is worth crap if hes dead and can't lead anymore. Hes worth more to the country deciding what to do on a grand scale than helping lift rubble around, because this is what hes been trained to do.

 

[Nitemare]

<< >>>No. I am embarassed to be in the same country as you, you narrow minded little prick. Take your Gore loving as$ out of the country because you are not an American.<<<


Maybe you should leave this country instead. You seem to want to take away his right to speak his mind and voice his concern,and you have decided anyone who voted for Gore is not an American. Sounds like communism to me. Welcome to red China and tinamen square!

Fvck You:| >>



Why don't you join him? Freedom of Speech is nice, but there is a time and place for everything. Being anti-Bush for the sole purpose of being anti-Bush at this time and is not appropiate. It is a time to unite not divide. He is spreading dissent and doubt to the American people and yes, I believe he has no right to say it at this time. If he has something positive to say I would like to hear it. He can keep his negative comments to himself.

He will never vote for Bush, and I'm sure the feeling is quite mutual. The bottomline is....he is our president, like it or not. You don't have to like it, but please support it. If you don't support it at least keep your mouth shut.

He was alot closer to DC then you were, Tripleshot. I don't even want to hear it. Now that the situation is for the most part secure he is in DC.

Call me red or a commie if you want, but at least in China, they do have patriotism...something that is lacking in certain individuals in this country and forum..

 

[CocaCola5]

Everybody should just calm down, we all sound really stupid right now. For sure there WILL be heavy retaliations to come but most definitely it won't ever require the man resources of you or me or anyone here.

 

[EXman]

<< Maybe you should leave this country instead. You seem to want to take away his right to speak his mind and voice his concern,and you have decided anyone who voted for Gore is not an American. Sounds like communism to me. Welcome to red China and tinamen square! >>



Umm... if you have not noticed the unification of the country after this terrible event your blind. It is not a time for partasian banter, it is a team for coming together as Americans. Criticize all you want I doubt you could do much better.

This ain't Communism this is Patriotism. Anything else is just Lip Service and sound bytes.

 

[EXman]

right now here is a Formula for you to remember:

Anti-President=Anti-American

if you cannot support a President in this time of need don't bother calling yourself an American. To think He is not doing the most he probably can is blatently UnAmerican.

 

[Kipper]

Hmmm...perhaps I don't back this President at all because he was elected by the courts, rather than the people? Granted, I'll listen to him and probably tolerate him, but don't expect me to be completely happy with everything he does. I'm afraid I'm not blatantly partisan like that.

I'm sorry that I don't fit your definition of an American, but this country is such a melting pot that such a blatantly narrow definition of the word "American" as someone who supports the President is ludicrous, short-sighted, and above all, foolish.

By the way, I WILL support my friends, colleagues, and family. THAT is what I can do now within my limited power, so that is what I will do. The American people need to join hands, REGARDLESS OF THEIR DIFFERENCES, not argue about supporting some political figure.

 

[Queasy]

"I was very disappointed with Bush, that's correct. But given his actions in dodging the draft during Vietnam by joining the Peace Corps, I can't say that it's any surprise."

He didn't join the Peace Corps, he was flying jets for the National Guard which was more than Clinton or Gore did during Vietnam. Clinton was over in England writing anti-US Military essays. Gore was in Vietnam as a reporter as far away from the fighting as possible with bodyguards looking after him.

"Kennedy had the guts to stay in Washington during the original Cuban Missile Crisis, where the threat was just as prevalent and just as real. Bush, on the other hand, is nowhere near the scope of the President which Kennedy was...at least so far."

Bush wasn't even in DC to begin with when the incident happened. He was in Florida. He made an announcement on TV 15 mins after the first attack. He flew on Air Force One to an Air Force Base in Louisiana and made another statement. He then flew to another Base in Nebraska. From there he over-ruled the Secret Service and flew to Washington once the air space was secure. The Secret Service wanted him in NORAD. Bush knew he couldn't do that. Once it was confirmed that the air space over DC was secure he flew to DC.

I REALLY WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP THIS CRAP. EVERYONE IS DOING EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE BEST OF THIS SITUATION. PEOPLE SHOULD BE THINKING OF THOSE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES AND ARE CURRENTLY FIGHTING TO STAY ALIVE. ALL THIS OTHER CRAP IS UTTER BS RIGHT NOW.

Queasy

 

[Kipper]

Perhaps I should edit the text of that message to say he was in Washington during the HEIGHT of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

[EXman]

<< Hmmm...perhaps I don't back this President at all because he was elected by the courts, rather than the people? Granted, I'll listen to him and probably tolerate him, but don't expect me to be completely happy with everything he does. I'm afraid I'm not blatantly partisan like that. >>



Do you want a tissue? want me to change your diaper? Stop whining already!



<< I'm sorry that I don't fit your definition of an American, but this country is such a melting pot that such a blatantly narrow definition of the word "American" as someone who supports the President is ludicrous, short-sighted, and above all, foolish >>



Not after yesterday!
and you are American just acting UnAmerican by not supporting the Prez. It really isn't that hard to understand. Your pressing a irrelevant point. you can't go back and change things so stop whining!

 

[Optimus]

I take it non of the whiners in here saw that Bill Clinton came right out saying that he supports Bush 100% in this time of crisis, that this is not the time for politics, and that the American people should all band together in unity under the President through this crisis?

 

[terpsy]

Embarassed !?!?!?!?

WTF ?

You cannot declare war until you are in position and have moved your troops and mobilized.

We are at Defcon 2, it means a date and time has been set!

When we are in position, you will get another televised speech from the president, this time, taking the hard and fast stance
of reaction. Mourn for a few days, prepare, and then strike back.

A War was not already in progress as was WW2, and to avoid WW3, we are doing the necessary and proper steps to eradicate
and erase what caused us so much pain, loss, and tradegy of the events of 9/11/2001

Hold your head high, I amy not be a GWB supporter, but he is going to lead us in the direction we need to go in.

Instead of questioning and whining, UNITE !

Amazing UNITED STATES, UNITED we stand DIVIDED we fall......

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

 

[EXman]

good point Optimus:

<< I take it non of the whiners in here saw that Bill Clinton came right out saying that he supports Bush 100% in this time of crisis, that this is not the time for politics, and that the American people should all band together in unity under the President through this crisis? >>

 

[Underclocked]

Well said Terpsy. The time is coming.

 

[KBrinks]

mods need to lock all of these topics that fule anger like this....


"BUT IT'S FREEDOM OF SPEACH"
yeah sure... people take this "freedom of speach" thing to far... people need to learn to just shut up

i think these trolls htat start this crap really have been warped by society... they dont understand what really happend... it is estimated that 10,000 PEOPLE DIED .... that's probably 20,000+ kids without parents today... friends and family have lost loved one's...

so in the future, to the kids who start these troll threads... THINK before you ACT

thread directed twards Tripleshot and snow

 

[snow]

Well, just got up and had a chance to read through this thread.

I have to say, this thread greatly disappoints me. Unfortunately, responses like the numerous above pretty much confirm my views on the classless nature of American society. The great majority of America, and it pains me to say this, is stupid. The replies today just underline this fact. People who think patriotism is standing behind someone blindly following what he does are ignorant. However, it should not be too surprising giving the obvious lack of intelligence exhibited by those people above who are unable to reply intelligently and instead just insult others when they don't agree with their opinion.

To those of you who feel the need to reply to my suggestions with the suggestion that we need to stick together: Take a look in the mirror.

It is correctly said that Democracy is the worst form of government as it leads to mob rule. And mobs as we know, besides representing the lowest common denominator, often act with fear and emotion instead of reason. Thankfully, in the US we do not have anywhere near a true democracy. The thought of some of you above having input into the running of the country scares me more than any terrorist attack.

 

[crypticlogin]

I support our President for how he handled things. I actually didn't expect him to examine New York first-hand or return to Washington immediately as that would've exposed himself to potential threats, known and unknown -- we don't need a dead President on top of a terror attack.

 

[KBrinks]

snow how about you run for president



is anyone with me in saying that snow is truly an idiot

 

[0beron]

Ummmm... this isn't "Independence Day" this is real life. And in real life, we need a working government. That means the president should be protected. If that means leaving the White House for a while, then I completely support it.

This is not cowardice... this is simple common sense.

 

[busmaster11]

I really dislike Bush. I have disagreed with almost every decision he's made since becoming the prez. I think he's an amateur.

Having said that, I respect, but still disagree with the first post. Our president is a symbol to America. If anything happens to him it would be a moral blow to us all. And at times like this, we need to stand together and build each other up. I have no problem with Bush being flown around to secret places yesterday. In fact, I have no problem with his leadership yesterday.

I do have my doubts about whether he can suppress the desire to shoot first and ask questions later, but if he leads us through this (ie find and kill the bastards) without further damage, he'll have my respect.

 

[Optimus]

Only someone like Snow would take such delight in this tradgedy as a chance to spew his arrogant little hatred for anything Republican.

BTW, I'm not Republica or Democrat - I'm neither. But I do know that the President did what he had to - removed himself from harm's way to be able to continue leading the country.

I don't want the guy in charge making decisions out of fear - or in a city like NY when the city lacks communication ability.

Besides - I'd like to see your response to the fact that Clinton is behind Bush 100% in all this and thinks all Americas should be. Is Clinton wrong? Stupid like the rest of us?