Anyone else dreading Android 4.5 rather than anticipating it?

[VashHT]

Nexus = limited storage and mediocre battery life.

Yeah but I thought a lot of the battery improvements for the newer phones coming out were hardware based, like a more efficient radio and processor, so that would translate to better battery life on a nexus even if the software wasn't as battery friendly.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Yeah but I thought a lot of the battery improvements for the newer phones coming out were hardware based, like a more efficient radio and processor, so that would translate to better battery life on a nexus even if the software wasn't as battery friendly.

The Nexus 5 already has the same SoC and radio improvements as the G2 and Note 3, unfortunately it also has a significantly smaller battery so even with those improvements battery life still isn't that great.

 

[s44]

However no one really cares and outside of Amazon and to a smaller degree Samsung, and no one really wants to make the effort to create replacements for all of the different Google apps and services.

Saw this linked today on reddit:

https://github.com/microg

Very cool, commendable project.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Saw this linked today on reddit:

https://github.com/microg

Very cool, commendable project.

So they are trying to make versions of google apps so you don't have to use google apps?

They call google's apps proprietary but I thought Samsung's version of those apps was proprietary and google's was not. Maybe my definition is wrong.

 

[Mopetar]

So they are trying to make versions of google apps so you don't have to use google apps?

They call google's apps proprietary but I thought Samsung's version of those apps was proprietary and google's was not. Maybe my definition is wrong.

On the older versions of Android, the default apps were free game, but in the last few versions, using the apps that Google has made comes with stipulations. If you're not running something blessed by Google, you can't use their apps, the Android branding, or a few other things. That's why if you install something like CyanogenMod, it won't have the Google apps bundled with it. However, you are free to download them yourself if they're not there.

 

[MrSquished]

On the older versions of Android, the default apps were free game, but in the last few versions, using the apps that Google has made comes with stipulations. If you're not running something blessed by Google, you can't use their apps, the Android branding, or a few other things. That's why if you install something like CyanogenMod, it won't have the Google apps bundled with it. However, you are free to download them yourself if they're not there.

they have other motives for making google apps more independent and just updatable via the app market. now they can make major updates to google apps without requiring a system OS update. now they can just update the app itself and avoid that route - which is often way more time consuming for phones that are not running naked android.

 

[sweenish]

Do people not know what I/O 2013 was about?

It was about updating Android without updating Android. If you don't like the situation, you're too late for that. You should have stopped supporting OEMs that released a phone and never touched it again years ago.

Google did this so people could have some level of feature parity regardless of phone or Android version, because the OEMs sure weren't going to start caring about updates.

Add to that the ease of a Play Store update versus an entire OS update, and the separation of apps into the Play Store is still a boon, even if OEMs were doing what they should.

If people whine and complain about the openness of Android, but do nothing, please stop talking. You can go get your 100% FOSS Android pretty much right now.

 

[shabby]

Do people not know what I/O 2013 was about?

It was about updating Android without updating Android.

That sounds great in theory but updating its own apps isn't really that big of a deal.
4.4.4 was a security update, will google play services update all devices to 4.4.4 or patch any security holes?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

That sounds great in theory but updating its own apps isn't really that big of a deal.
4.4.4 was a security update, will google play services update all devices to 4.4.4 or patch any security holes?

Yes
http://pocketnow.com/2014/06/25/google-play-services-5-0

Remember how we just saw Android 4.4.4 arrive shortly after 4.4.3, only to fix an overlooked security issue? The new Play Services release changes the platform’s secure networking framework to allow Google to deploy future fixes like 4.4.4′s without needing to do a full-on system-level update.

 

[sweenish]

That sounds great in theory but updating its own apps isn't really that big of a deal.
4.4.4 was a security update, will google play services update all devices to 4.4.4 or patch any security holes?

As Nikola said, yes.

That was discussed at this year's I/O.

 

[Megatomic]

I am eagerly awaiting the next evolution of Android, and I feel like it's never been in a better place both from a design and functionality standpoint. There have been other people in this thread that are excited for the direction Android is going.

It's fine that you're not excited. Just don't use false and out-dated arguments to support your opinion. Especially the iPhone costing more one. With the amount of M7's, M8's, S4's and S5's I see every day, it's not because of cost. It's a genuine preference.

I agreed with this entire post but only quoted the above as it fits me the most. I sport a Moto X out of choice, as does my wife. My employer offered me an iPhone 5S but I went with the X. My wife got the X next as she loved mine. Now we're both jonesing for the M8... The hardware is premium as is the experience. And Android L will be amazing on it.