Anyone do Home Automation?

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Thinking about doing this for my house. I want to have the option to control:

  • Plugs
  • Lights
  • Cameras
  • Thermostat
  • Maybe garage door (think there is a module for my model)

What should I or can I buy? What should I be looking out for? What about security?

Other thoughts:

We already have:
  • ADT Pulse with two wireless cameras it texts us alerts and pics when doors open or alarms go off.
  • A Harmony Ultimate remote - think this has some automation options.
  • An Apple TV - wasn't

Looking to control stuff with our phones (iPhone house) not necessarily a voice controlled puck.
Thanks!
 

lxskllr

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The light in my fridge comes on when I open the door, and when I set a temperature on my thermostat, it keeps the house at a constant temperature. I'm pretty happy with the system.
 

pete6032

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Pretty sure there is a big thread in the consumer electronics forum.
 

Paratus

Lifer
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The light in my fridge comes on when I open the door, and when I set a temperature on my thermostat, it keeps the house at a constant temperature. I'm pretty happy with the system.

Well I was thinking more Jetsons rather than Flinstones. ;)

Pretty sure there is a big thread in the consumer electronics forum.

I'll go look for it.

Paging @Kaido and @IndyColtsFan

Read this https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/smart-home-home-automation-discussion-thread.2358016/

Here's my personal solution that offers the most flexibility at the best price:
Home automation - Wink or SmartThings hub with sensors, I've seen Smartthings v2 hub on sale for $50
Security - Netgear Arlo Q no monthly fees unlike Nest

Thanks. I saw online the Wink 2 had a lot of connection options. Not familiar with SmartThings, I'll take a look.
 

Red Squirrel

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Currently I only really automate my hvac and I also monitor a few other things such as my UPS battery voltage, whether power goes out, and some mouse traps. My system is not very modular at this point though as it's all hard coded with arduino and a relay controller board (from before I knew about arduino) so I want to redesign it at some point and extend it to monitor stuff like freezer/fridge etc.

Not a fan of the proprietary/consumer solutions as lot of them are cloud based and you're at the mercy of their servers being available for it to work. Turning on a light in my own house should not rely on the internet.

Right now everything comes in to a DIN rail on my server rack then is wired into the relays etc but it's kind of a mess so I'm probably going to setup a panel instead. It sounded like a nice idea at the time to put a DIN rail on the server rack but it's kinda an inefficient use of rack space as a flat wall surface is more effective.

Older pic but basically the same:



This is the interface for my hvac control:







I need to polish it better one day but it works and is semi mobile friendly as well.

And this is the monitoring system that also ties in with it:



When I design my more modular system essentially the way it will work is that for controls it will be a large relay controller and for sensors it will be a special bus and each sensor will be it's own microcontroller based system that then talks on the same bus. Everything will be plug and play. Might look at zigbee as well but I plan to make it mostly all wired. No batteries or potential length limitations to worry about.

For lights and such I don't really have a need myself but what I'd probably do is just have a relay in parallel with the light switch. In a new house build I would have every light switch go to a central panel so when you turn it on it's just telling the computer to that the switch is on and the computer can be programmed to do whatever you want. You can have it turn on the light in that room right away, and then perhaps it changes the hvac program to say you are home. A lot of possibilities.
 
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Kaido

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Paging @Kaido and @IndyColtsFan

Read this https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/smart-home-home-automation-discussion-thread.2358016/

Here's my personal solution that offers the most flexibility at the best price:
Home automation - Wink or SmartThings hub with sensors, I've seen Smartthings v2 hub on sale for $50
Security - Netgear Arlo Q no monthly fees unlike Nest

Was expecting an Instant Pot callout. I keep forgetting I've made these other threads. I spend way too much time on the Internet lol.
 

Kaido

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Thinking about doing this for my house. I want to have the option to control:

  • Plugs
  • Lights
  • Cameras
  • Thermostat
  • Maybe garage door (think there is a module for my model)

What should I or can I buy? What should I be looking out for? What about security?

Other thoughts:

We already have:
  • ADT Pulse with two wireless cameras it texts us alerts and pics when doors open or alarms go off.
  • A Harmony Ultimate remote - think this has some automation options.
  • An Apple TV - wasn't

Looking to control stuff with our phones (iPhone house) not necessarily a voice controlled puck.
Thanks!

You can basically spend as much money on smarthome equipment as you want to. My buddy did a million-dollar install in NYC a year or so ago. The main questions are:

1. What do you want to do with it?
2. How much do you want to spend?
3. How convenient do you want it to be? (vs. how much control do you want to have?)

Wink has the most simple & straightforward system on the market; it integrates with tons of third-party gear & is very easy to use. Their main competitor is Smart Things, which is more flexible but also (can) require more work than just plug & play. I am currently setup on Wink + Echo. I avoided the Echo for far too long, turns out it's actually great! I have five total right now (one Echo & four Dots). Here is a list of what Wink supports: (includes Logitech's Harmony lineup of smart remotes)

https://www.wink.com/products/

I converted my entire house to LED bulbs a year or two ago; they are pretty good these days (cheap, bright, yellow instead of harsh white, and dimmable). I use Lutron Caseta switches (very expensive, $60 each, but have very convenient remotes that you can wall-mount). My buddy has a Philips Hue system, which is really cool because it can change colors. As far as HVAC goes, I didn't care for Nest's automation in their thermostat, so I went with a Honeywell color touchscreen system, which is very easy to use & has a phone app. Yup, Chamberlain has a garage door opener module. One thing to add to your list is a smart deadbolt; I have a Schlage Century:

https://www.amazon.com/Schlage-Connect-Touchscreen-Deadbolt-SmartThings/dp/B00AGK9KJG

We mostly just use the PIN code on the touchpad (doesn't pick up fingerprints); you can also set guest PIN's for family/friends/contracters as well. The phone remote unlock feature (via Wink) is handy when you're bringing in groceries and/or kids. Another thing to consider is motorized blinds, although that does get pretty expensive (I was quoted about $6k for my condo, which is not large).

Security is a bit tricky because there are so many ways you can do it. ADT Pulse is really nice because it's convenient & it "just works". You can build a DIY system with cameras, motion sensors, door/window sensors, and so on as well. A lot of people like to setup motion sensors to automatically turn on their lights as well. Depends on how much you want to manage yourself & how much you want to have a company manage in terms of calling out for tripped security sensors, calling the cops, etc. Same with cameras, you can do a monthly fee or have a DIY system with local storage. I have an Arlo system, although I don't like it very much. I like the Nest cams a lot (formerly Dropcams), although they do charge for online storage (which is optional, you can just use them as live cameras that also send motion detection alerts to your phone). Amcrest (formerly Foscam) makes nice inexpensive PTZ cameras with edge storage (SD card on the device), plus can integrate to a NAS (like a Synology) or computer for recording. Depends on how complex you want to get with it. Some people like Tivo-style systems that have security DVR's & a camera bundle, like Swann or Zmodo (there's a million offshoots of those).

A lot of it depends on what you want to do. Wink is very easy to setup & has nice basic controls (robots & schedules). Smart Things offers a lot more control & lets you integrate more stuff in creative ways. There's a huge variety of other options as well, depending on how hardcore you want to get into customization & programming (Red Squirrel's mouser system is awesome!), then there's the mid-grade stuff like Control4 & Savant, and then there's the high-grade stuff like Crestron. So some things to think about are how much DIY work you want to do, how much non-standard stuff you want to do (i.e. stuff that can't be purchased off-the-shelf), how much integration you want to do, etc.
 
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