Anyone concerned that only millionaires can hold Office in the U.S.?

[XZeroII]

Dave,

I agree with you about how there are too many rich people running for office (all of them). However, you have a flaw in your logic. You make the mistake of thinking that just because all politicians in office are rich, that it is a pre-requisite. It is not. A person could certainly get elected if he/she was not rich, however, it is not very likely because most middle/lower class people would give up too soon and not put forth enough effort for the long haul. There are plenty of lower level positions (mayors and such) who are normal non-rich people. It's just that most don't have the aspiration to go farther. They look at the road to the capital and think that it's just too long and hard, so they stay where they are. Sure, money makes it much easier, but it is not required. And I think that we need to look for more candidates that are just normal people.

 

[13Gigatons]

Lieberman sucks, I hate it everytime he is on tv. I switch the channel. The problem with these guys is they think they are entitled to being in the Senate after being there for so long.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Lieberman sucks, I hate it everytime he is on tv. I switch the channel. The problem with these guys is they think they are entitled to being in the Senate after being there for so long.

And the last thing the US needs at this point is a Jew in the executive branch. We're doing bad enough as it is with a born-again Christian.

 

[fjord]

Pointing to our present elected oficials is not in my mind a winning argument for what our system has become, in terms of up-front ante money to play the election game. Quite the opposite.

The electoral system has been corrupted--and this country is suffering for it (has for some time). The quality of elected administrators we have right now: municipal, state, and fed. are an overwhelming and convincing indictment of this very fact.

 

[straightalker]

USA Presidents are hired professional liars. Not elected loyal Americans.

Go down the list since JFK. Since he was probably our last real President.

I'll start with LBJ.

LBJ murdered JFK. Then immedietely reveresed removing the CIA, the Federal Reserve and ending the Vietnam War. Tell me now. Who is interested most in keeping all those things going? Guess right and you guess who hires our USA Presidents.

Look at our next selection of Presidential candidates...

It's shaping up to be the likes of Hilary Clinton among other total liars.

Money really is not the obstacle to electing a true loyal American.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: straightalker
USA Presidents are hired professional liars. Not elected loyal Americans.

Go down the list since JFK. Since he was probably our last real President.

I'll start with LBJ.

LBJ murdered JFK. Then immedietely reveresed removing the CIA, the Federal Reserve and ending the Vietnam War. Tell me now. Who is interested most in keeping all those things going? Guess right and you guess who hires our USA Presidents.

Look at our next selection of Presidential candidates...

It's shaping up to be the likes of Hilary Clinton among other total liars.

WTF? Xenu murdered JFK.

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Lieberman sucks, I hate it everytime he is on tv. I switch the channel. The problem with these guys is they think they are entitled to being in the Senate after being there for so long.

And the last thing the US needs at this point is a Jew in the executive branch. We're doing bad enough as it is with a born-again Christian.

Explain please

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Lieberman sucks, I hate it everytime he is on tv. I switch the channel. The problem with these guys is they think they are entitled to being in the Senate after being there for so long.

And the last thing the US needs at this point is a Jew in the executive branch. We're doing bad enough as it is with a born-again Christian.

That statement is beyond belief!...... This is the US...
Please ammend to say what you really meant.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: straightalker
USA Presidents are hired professional liars. Not elected loyal Americans.

Go down the list since JFK. Since he was probably our last real President.

I'll start with LBJ.

LBJ murdered JFK. Then immedietely reveresed removing the CIA, the Federal Reserve and ending the Vietnam War. Tell me now. Who is interested most in keeping all those things going? Guess right and you guess who hires our USA Presidents.

Look at our next selection of Presidential candidates...

It's shaping up to be the likes of Hilary Clinton among other total liars.

Money really is not the obstacle to electing a true loyal American.

LBJ.. eheheheheheh I have no doubt that Oswald didn't do it... not-with-standing Arlen Specter's great use of magic in the Warren Commission hearings.. but, LBJ... not hardly. He may not have cared much for the Kennedys but nothing leads me to Johnson's door step except maybe mutual objectives and even maybe a friend or two.. Johnson wanted glory for himself...

 

[Brutuskend]

Bugs the hell out of me and it always has!

I remember hearing when I was growing up "Any one can grow up to be President!"


Right.

If you come from a wealthy family OR you make a ton of money yourself. :roll:

Personally IMO there are way too many people who HAVE that kind of money that got it at someone else's expense and that is NOT the kind of person I would want to run things....

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Bugs the hell out of me and it always has!

I remember hearing when I was growing up "Any one can grow up to be President!"


Right.

If you come from a wealthy family OR you make a ton of money yourself. :roll:

Personally IMO there are way too many people who HAVE that kind of money that got it at someone else's expense and that is NOT the kind of person I would want to run things....

a) Anyone can "make a ton of money yourself"
b) Therefore anyone can become President

...or you can marry into the wealth like Kerry

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Bugs the hell out of me and it always has!

I remember hearing when I was growing up "Any one can grow up to be President!"


Right.

If you come from a wealthy family OR you make a ton of money yourself. :roll:

Personally IMO there are way too many people who HAVE that kind of money that got it at someone else's expense and that is NOT the kind of person I would want to run things....

a) Anyone can "make a ton of money yourself"
b) Therefore anyone can become President

...or you can marry into the wealth like Kerry

There are a great many more motivated hard-working people out there than there are 'millionaires by the age of 35'. Good luck making it to high office in the US if you aren't in the second group.

Not that I have any love of Harper, as you know, but I think in a country with better rules about lobbying and fundraising, that it is more possible to become a successful politician without being rich here than it is south of the border.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Bugs the hell out of me and it always has!

I remember hearing when I was growing up "Any one can grow up to be President!"


Right.

If you come from a wealthy family OR you make a ton of money yourself. :roll:

Personally IMO there are way too many people who HAVE that kind of money that got it at someone else's expense and that is NOT the kind of person I would want to run things....

a) Anyone can "make a ton of money yourself"
b) Therefore anyone can become President

...or you can marry into the wealth like Kerry

There are a great many more motivated hard-working people out there than there are 'millionaires by the age of 35'. Good luck making it to high office in the US if you aren't in the second group.

Not that I have any love of Harper, as you know, but I think in a country with better rules about lobbying and fundraising, that it is more possible to become a successful politician without being rich here than it is south of the border.

I agree...but I expect much more of the leader of the one and only superpower in the world. Cream of the crop only...and that includes the elite few you mention.

As for our system; I agree it is far less corrupt here but the risks and rewards are that much greater in the US. If there was that much money and power on the line here; you wouldn't see politicians working to give themselves LESS power as you are seeing here under the Conservatives. Our PM has far less power than their President...keep that in mind as well.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Lieberman sucks, I hate it everytime he is on tv. I switch the channel. The problem with these guys is they think they are entitled to being in the Senate after being there for so long.

The last thing the US needs at this point is a Jew in the executive branch.

We're doing bad enough as it is with a born-again Christian.

That statement is beyond belief!...... This is the US...

Please ammend to say what you really meant.

All Hail the American Taliban