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Anyone build websites for a living?

iamme

Lifer
i know there are some who resell webhosting. what about also building sites for small businesses? any idea what typical payrates are? who usually owns source code to the site?
 
Originally posted by: illusion88
My uncle does.

any idea on how many websites he's made? are they for small businesses? what does he typically charge? do you have a link to his site?
 
We recently hired a company to build our webpage
They had a flatrate system for $3000 we got graphics + webboard + blog + various flash animations + gallery
Code is all ours to edit but he retained ownership of certain scripts and php stuff

as a personal note i thought this was way too much for what he did. It looks like a rehashed phpnuke interface (the code appears to be his own though)
 
that is what i used to do for a living. typically charged $100-$150/hour but that included everything from graphic design, content management, data management, custom code (perl, php, java) and full hosted support.

we had possession of the code (since most our clients wanted us to do the hosting as well) but if they asked (not one ever did) we would provide a DVD with all content and database dumps.
 
My coworker creates websites for a living for Fort Lewis. He makes somewhere around 60K a year currently. Here is one of his latest creations: Link
 
Originally posted by: iamme
i know there are some who resell webhosting. what about also building sites for small businesses? any idea what typical payrates are? who usually owns source code to the site?

It's all negotiable. We typically charge $85-175 per hour, but sometimes do flat-rate contracts. The contracts will specify who owns the code, or if not, we keep ownership but will sell it for a fee.
 
I do, but I work for a huge corporation and get paid a salary..so I can't give you specifics on hour rates to charge the general public.
 
I do such work and only a fool would hire someone by the hour.

If they work by the hour, expect them not to be in a hurry to finish.

I however, will not give the specifics of my business because I do not want people stealing my customers.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I do such work and only a fool would hire someone by the hour.

If they work by the hour, expect them not to be in a hurry to finish.

I however, will not give the specifics of my business because I do not want people stealing my customers.

Now that's not entirely true. Someone who drags it out needlessly beyond their estimate probably can't count on any further business from that client, and could probably expect bad word of mouth to boot. In that respect, it's not so different from a mechanic or plumber.
 
pay by hour is fine, especially if it's an ongoing updates kind of deal... which are the best. 😉
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I do such work and only a fool would hire someone by the hour.

If they work by the hour, expect them not to be in a hurry to finish.

I however, will not give the specifics of my business because I do not want people stealing my customers.

Hmm, so some of my Fortune 100 clients are fools?

It is foolish to have an open ended contract.

We would talk with our clients and estimate the number of hours needed for a project. Then right a fixed price bid based on the number of hours.

Being in a hurry to finish isn't a good thing either...
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I do such work and only a fool would hire someone by the hour.

If they work by the hour, expect them not to be in a hurry to finish.

I however, will not give the specifics of my business because I do not want people stealing my customers.

Now that's not entirely true. Someone who drags it out needlessly beyond their estimate probably can't count on any further business from that client, and could probably expect bad word of mouth to boot. In that respect, it's not so different from a mechanic or plumber.

LMAO. Plummer or mechanic? The two professions which are well known for screwing people?

The point is, you'll get more business if you just give an upfront price.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
LMAO. Plummer or mechanic? The two professions which are well known for screwing people?

I suppose if the person that contacted me was a hot female, then yeah, I'd screw her like the plumber and mechanic.
 
Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I do such work and only a fool would hire someone by the hour.

If they work by the hour, expect them not to be in a hurry to finish.

I however, will not give the specifics of my business because I do not want people stealing my customers.

Hmm, so some of my Fortune 100 clients are fools?

It is foolish to have an open ended contract.

We would talk with our clients and estimate the number of hours needed for a project. Then right a fixed price bid based on the number of hours.

Being in a hurry to finish isn't a good thing either...

Fortune 100? Absolutely 100% without a doubt.

The larger the company, the more prone it is to unnecessary spending due to ignorance and poor management.

A big company is like a government, so much money flowing around, you're going to waste plenty because there just isn't any time to track everything.
 
I know an exec at SailAmerica and they paid something like 4000 for their's. Personally i was going to designone for my church for web hosting cost (13.95 on Yahoo small businiess) plus 50 bucks a week. They turned me down...mainly because they said they "Didnt see a point in having that instead of an email list"
 
I design websites for a living. I don't do too much of the actual building of the site, mostly just the design and layout.
 
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