Anybody involved in SOB ??? Just curious.

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MechEng

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Topic above :)

I never see anyone writing about it anymore... Has it been abandoned, or ???
 
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i was involved in SoB but moved onto Riesel Sieve when i saw posts about it. no installation needed and a cli client which is much easier to operate. :thumbsup:
 
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EDIT: This post is an answer to unforgiven's post above and therefore regarding RieselSieve and NOT SOB... Sorry :eek:
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I tried that on two different PC's, but both started acting "funny", resulting in me having to restart them. :(
IIRC it was a service called "svchost" that started taking ALL CPU ressources when I tried to the client, but I'm not 100% sure about it...

They did this independently of eachother, with the only thing in common being the client. Normally they both run very stable when it comes to DC. Actually one of them is setting a personal record for me right now, as it has run for 18 days straight with a variety of the children playing games, while all of the time either F@H, SOB or DPAD has been running. :)

Truth be told, I didn't do much to investigate the problems, other than checking both PC's for unwanted activity... Viruses etc... (Did not find anything)
 
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Originally posted by: BlackMountainCow
Lots of folks actually. And TAS will start SoB on the 1st of Feb. for a month! :beer:
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OK... :)
Just haven't seen any posts about it in a while... I started running it some time ago on my slowest PC (P3-550MHz), just to see how it was running. (and because F@H WU's was taking forever on it :) )
 
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I'm running it on 2 processors at the moment. I tried the riesel stuff, but it was just a pita.
 
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Originally posted by: Unforgiven
i was involved in SoB but moved onto Riesel Sieve when i saw posts about it. no installation needed and a cli client which is much easier to operate. :thumbsup:
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Is there any perfomance benmefit to the CLI over the GUI in SOB ?
 
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i dont know to be honest. i just hated the SoB client in that it wrote to the registry so and every time i accessed it remotely it would freeze my computers. i got fed up with when i would stop processing to reboot my computer to apply a windows update or such that only about 50% of the time would my work actually resume like they claimed it was supposed to. i dunno, i like the simplicity of reisel sieve i guess :beer: SoB is a great project, just not my cup of tea.
 
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blks done: 336
run time: 17:15:48
full test 15.4%

On a p4 1.8

Hopefully the 2.6mhtz athlon system will be a little snappier.

Oh & yeah, it didn't resume my work(lost the original 11%) after I started up the program after two days off. :|
 
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I just lost 30 hours crunching SB when I had to reboot :( How do I continue where I left off?

Is this normal? Or is it my computer?

HELP!
 
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MechEng

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Originally posted by: GLeeM
I just lost 30 hours crunching SB when I had to reboot :( How do I continue where I left off?

Is this normal? Or is it my computer?

HELP!
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I think it's the client that does not do it's job properly... :(

I've read about it quite a few times by now...
 
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Argh, this really needs to be mentioned in an FAQ somewhere:

You must reboot after installing the client for the first time for it to create a registry key needed for it to resume work. If you don't, next time you reboot it'll pick up a new test. No worries if you didn't, though, it's a 2 minute process to instruct the client to continue working on the old test. You haven't lost any work.

AT used to be top of the project for quite a while, then most of the team seems to have lost interest at about the same time as TPR picked up the pace and blew us out of the water. At the moment we're operating at about 60M cEMs/s, down from our high of about 120M. TPR on the other hand is operating at anything up to 500M cEMs/s. The reason the posts have disappeared is that team leader Confused seems to have gone seriously AWOL, with no production or posts for many months now. We're still hanging in there though.

SOB's GUI is hardly a GUI - it's just one progress bar. Any kind of performance hit would be absolutely miniscule, and personally I think it's far more convenient than a CLI. The setup process is an absolute breeze compared to SETI, for example.

MechEng, I have no idea what could have caused your problem other than an unstable install or machine. I have never heard of a similar symptom from anyone else and it's quite mind boggling that you were able to produce it on two separate machines. I'd suggest posting on the project forums, but if as you say you don't really care about fixing it, don't worry about it.

In conclusion we need all the help we can get! The performance gap sounds enormous, but a fast P4 will do 3M cEM/s and even a Celeron will do 2m cEMs/s. The client uses virtually no bandwidth at all, is fully operable with no internet access thanks to Ken_g6's SBQueue, and runs on pretty much any OS you can imagine but Mac :(

Do give it a go if you can, especially with TAS invading this month. We could seriously make a mark :)
 
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Ran it w/o a problem for quite awhile, it's still installed but I usually exit from it because after some semi-recent change it seems to really mess with my computer, not sure what is going on.
 
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Originally posted by: Allio
MechEng, I have no idea what could have caused your problem other than an unstable install or machine. I have never heard of a similar symptom from anyone else and it's quite mind boggling that you were able to produce it on two separate machines. I'd suggest posting on the project forums, but if as you say you don't really care about fixing it, don't worry about it.
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CLARIFICATION:

Actually my post 01/31/2005 09:08 PM about the problems I had was an answer to Unforgiven's mail from 01/31/2005 08:09 PM about RieselSieve...
I had problems with RieselSieve, NOT SOB...


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Allio
Thanks for the post regarding the reboot, in order to make it work properly... I will try it. :)
 
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Allio

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Originally posted by: MechEng
Actually my post 01/31/2005 09:08 PM about the problems I had was an answer to Unforgiven's mail from 01/31/2005 08:09 PM about RieselSieve...
I had problems with RieselSieve, NOT SOB...
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Ah, right you are :)
 
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Originally posted by: MechEng

Geoffs

Link hereby made startpage number 2 in Firefox... second to this page only... ;)
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I can live with that. :p

Actually, if you're in FireFox using tabs, I have both pages autoload when I start up FireFox (along with a few others... CNN, ESPN NHL (like there's any new useful information there :roll;), and my open cases with the INS (still waiting on those green cards!)) :D
 
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GeoffS

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reread what you wrote... looks like that is what you are already doing :) :thumbsup:
 
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It's still my favorite project by far.

It uses about 24MB of memory (that's 2 clients TOTAL on a HT machine) and i've never had any problem w/ it throughout the various systems...

With the latest client a P4C @ 3.0+ ghz can do 28CM/s+...which is a 33% increase from the past.

While i like the stats linked here @ sobtastats.com (by geoff i think?) I much much PREFERRED Confused's daily stats...i've contacted him to no avail and he still is active around on TA daily..just not in DC...???

anyone know why?

I would gladly take over posting daily stats if he gave me his stuff and showed me how to use it!

thanks!
 
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Thanks Allio! :)

You made me happy again :thumbsup

There was nothing in the registry to edit, so I just made new DWORDs and values.

Now how do I send in intermediate results when I want to? I have dialup.
 
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Originally posted by: GLeeM
Thanks Allio! :)

You made me happy again :thumbsup

There was nothing in the registry to edit, so I just made new DWORDs and values.

Now how do I send in intermediate results when I want to? I have dialup.
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It'll work perfectly at default settings as long as you're connected reasonably often - the only time you actually need to connect is when fetching a new test. If you're severly limited as to when you can be on, I'd run SBQueue, which lets you fetch tests whenever you're on and flush with the click of a button. Especially useful if you have a number of machines.

Otherwise you could control it by simply unticking and reticking the 'submit intermediate blocks' box when wanted, but I don't think there's really any need for that. Chances are you'll be just fine without any special tricks, this project is more dialup friendly than SETI :p

No problem about your dropped test, glad you got it sorted :)
 
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