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I need to find out what these 3 foods are:

Cholary Subzi
Aallo Pronta
Gobi Subzi

Any help will be appreciated!! thanks!
 
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I need to find out what these 3 foods are:

Cholary Subzi
Aallo Pronta
Gobi Subzi

Any help will be appreciated!! thanks!

literally things mean...

Its Cholae Subzi / Subzi = Vegetable, Chole = chickpeas.. it could be just chickpeas curry kind of thing
Its Aloo Pratha / Aloo = Potato , Paratha = a tortia type dish, the potatoes are mixed into the "patty ball" and then its flattened ont eh rolling pin and then put on a pan with a bit of oil.
Gobi Subzi = / Gobi = Califlower, subzi = same thing as above.


Edit: I dotn know what Pronta is but I assume its paratha..
 

Maverick

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I know Alu paratha which is what the_good_guy described
and gobi subji which is a spicy dish using cauliflower, tomatoes, and onions along with some spices.

chola subji is the similar to gobi subji but uses chick peas instead of cauliflower.
 

RossMAN

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Can anyone recommend a good authentic Indian restaurant here in Portland, OR?
 

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Can anyone recommend a good authentic Indian restaurant here in Portland, OR?

if you want authentic make sure to avoid anything called the Clay Oven. Its completely NOT authentic. I dunno if they have one in portland but there's a few in Texas and one in Denver.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Shiva112
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Can anyone recommend a good authentic Indian restaurant here in Portland, OR?

if you want authentic make sure to avoid anything called the Clay Oven. Its completely NOT authentic. I dunno if they have one in portland but there's a few in Texas and one in Denver.

Thanks, sounds like a rip off chain. Ala Taco-indigestion-Skoorbie-loves-Bell.
 

Dhruv

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Can anyone recommend a good authentic Indian restaurant here in Portland, OR?


rossman: you can try Sidewalk.com and choose your city. Or pick up a Zagat's that would be even better.

Shiva your not exactly accurate dude. Subzi is an Indo-Iranian word for vegetable, like Good Guy said. Alloo just means potato, Cholay is Chickpeas, Gobi is cauliflower, exactly what Good Guy wrote.

However, they can be made spicy, or not, with tomatoes, or not. Aloo Parantha is a stuffed flat bread with potato stuffed. Parantha basically means layered pieces of bread, and when they say Aloo Paranthat that has potatoes in that bread. Gobi Paranthas mean Cauliflower in that same bread.

How you prepare it depends largely on what region you are from. Most Indian restaurants serve Punjabi food, but they won't call it that. They usually refer to it as North Indian if anything, and that is really really misleading since Gujurati food is so different from Punjabi food in so many ways, particularly the use of the Tandoor in Punjab, and the lack of meat dishes in other states of India. Mughlai is actually a misnomer as well, since that implies it was a Mughal influence, when in fact the tandoor and that style of Punjabi-Iranian cooking has been there for thousand of years. btw, aloo paranthas are also a traditional meal in Turkey, it ain't just 'indian.'
 

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Indian restaurants sometimes pull some shady stuff though so you have to be careful. We go to Indian lunch buffets at work and once we had a really bad experience. We went to some place where they load the buffet food with MSG so it makes you feel really full. I guess its so you eat less and they make more money off the buffet.

After work we tried to go to the gym and felt incredibly weak and fatigued out...needless to say we now avoid that place.
 

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Another tip:

Avoid eating North Indian dishes (anything with goat, lamb, chicken, spinach and cheese or cholay, paranthas, etc.) at restaurants owned by or cooked by South Indians. They can't make it right. I've tried 3 or 4 different places in different states where the cook was South Indian and all the Punjabi dishes came out horrible.
 

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Originally posted by: Dhruv
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Can anyone recommend a good authentic Indian restaurant here in Portland, OR?


rossman: you can try Sidewalk.com and choose your city. Or pick up a Zagat's that would be even better.

Shiva your not exactly accurate dude. Subzi is an Indo-Iranian word for vegetable, like Good Guy said. Alloo just means potato, Cholay is Chickpeas, Gobi is cauliflower, exactly what Good Guy wrote.

However, they can be made spicy, or not, with tomatoes, or not. Aloo Parantha is a stuffed flat bread with potato stuffed. Parantha basically means layered pieces of bread, and when they say Aloo Paranthat that has potatoes in that bread. Gobi Paranthas mean Cauliflower in that same bread.

How you prepare it depends largely on what region you are from. Most Indian restaurants serve Punjabi food, but they won't call it that. They usually refer to it as North Indian if anything, and that is really really misleading since Gujurati food is so different from Punjabi food in so many ways, particularly the use of the Tandoor in Punjab, and the lack of meat dishes in other states of India. Mughlai is actually a misnomer as well, since that implies it was a Mughal influence, when in fact the tandoor and that style of Punjabi-Iranian cooking has been there for thousand of years. btw, aloo paranthas are also a traditional meal in Turkey, it ain't just 'indian.'

wow I learn something new about my culture every day. Don't forget to mention South Indian food..where most of the meals are based on rice or rice flour dishes (dosa, idli, utthapam).

 

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Can anyone recommend a good authentic Indian restaurant here in Portland, OR?

Doesn't saturday market have a few ?? I don't know how authentic they might be..

I assume your talking about food from India, and not a native american dish.
 

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Originally posted by: Dhruv
Another tip:

Avoid eating North Indian dishes (anything with goat, lamb, chicken, spinach and cheese or cholay, paranthas, etc.) at restaurants owned by or cooked by South Indians. They can't make it right. I've tried 3 or 4 different places in different states where the cook was South Indian and all the Punjabi dishes came out horrible.

yeah they do tend to mess it up. Its mainly because South Indians don't cook with as much butter and oil as North Indians do.
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: creation
I need to find out what these 3 foods are:

Cholary Subzi
Aallo Pronta
Gobi Subzi

Any help will be appreciated!! thanks!

chick peas simmered in spices
potato
cabbage
 

weirdichi

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Wow, my roommate is Indian.. he doesn't really cook that often though.. damnit him!! I'll have to ask him where the good restaurants are.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: NetworkDad
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Can anyone recommend a good authentic Indian restaurant here in Portland, OR?

Doesn't saturday market have a few ?? I don't know how authentic they might be..

I assume your talking about food from India, and not a native american dish.

Haha yes Indian food not Native American :D
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Dhruv
Another tip:

Avoid eating North Indian dishes (anything with goat, lamb, chicken, spinach and cheese or cholay, paranthas, etc.) at restaurants owned by or cooked by South Indians. They can't make it right. I've tried 3 or 4 different places in different states where the cook was South Indian and all the Punjabi dishes came out horrible.

How will you know?

I usually choose Indian restaurants by following my Indian friends around, hoping they know what they're doing. In the Philadelphia area I have been with them to Sitar India, Taste of India (both Ardmore and Wayne, both good), Khurajaho (sp?) and one other which I forget the name.

But one just opened that absolutely takes the taco (no pun intended) and every single Indian person I know has pretty much given up on eating anywhere but there, and that's Desi Village in King of Prussia.
I don't know if it's a South Indian cook, but the food is VERY good.
 

Dhruv

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Yes, South Indian food shouldn't be left out. Some South Indian food is REALLY good, although it is, for the most part vegetarian. The same rule applies, go to a place where the cook/owner is South Indian. You can usually tell the difference just by even looking at them. See, the similarities between North Indian and South Indian food is about as much as hamburgers are to sushi. When you go to a south Indian restaurant, ask for the Masala dosa to start off with. its boiled potatoes and other veggies, in a light, crisp crepe. really good, but may not fill ya up like Punjabi food does (but thats a good thing usually). Try some rice cakes and a soup, called Sambhar. The rice cakes are called Idli. It may take some getting used to eating the rice cakes tho, i remember when i first tried South Indian food, i couldn't stand those idli rice cakes. NOw I like'm when i dip it with the sambhar.
 

Jzero

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i remember when i first tried South Indian food, i couldn't stand those idli rice cakes. NOw I like'm when i dip it with the sambhar.
A lot of the people I work with are from the south. How could you not like idli? They are so good. Last year for kicks someone's wife who is a teacher and wanted to raise some money during the summer sold people at work homemade lunches for $5. It was great.

 

Dhruv

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Ameesh: Gobi is cauliflower, not cabbage bud.

Jzero: How do you tell the difference between the two? Well, ususally you can tell by the staff's appearance, but otherwise a good rule of thumb is that if the restaurant serves both Dosas and Meat dishes (lamb, goat, chicken), its a south indian cook. Most Punjabi-north Indian restaurants do not serve dosas (the crepes), though a lot of South Indian restaurants have started serving north Indian dishes because Americans tend to be meat eaters and have bigger appetites. But the most obvious way would be just to ask if they serve south indian dishes there. if they say yes, its a south Indian place. If they say no, its north indian - punjabi. If the name of the restaurant has the following words, its almost for sure north Indian (bombay, punjab, tandoor, Kabab) funny thing is bombay isn't even north Indian but so many north indian restaurants have that city in their name.
 

Dhruv

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Originally posted by: Jzero
i remember when i first tried South Indian food, i couldn't stand those idli rice cakes. NOw I like'm when i dip it with the sambhar.
A lot of the people I work with are from the south. How could you not like idli? They are so good. Last year for kicks someone's wife who is a teacher and wanted to raise some money during the summer sold people at work homemade lunches for $5. It was great.

i know dude. Idlis are really good with Sambhar. south Indian food in general leaves you feeling light and is pretty healthy. if you go to India you can eat like 8 idlis for 1 buck, with sambar. of course, the plane tickets prolly 1.2 grand so you may not come up on top ;)

 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Dhruv
funny thing is bombay isn't even north Indian but so many north indian restaurants have that city in their name.

I think it's because Americans associate Bombay with India ... although isn't Bombay now known as Mumbai?