Anybody here type using Dvorak instead of QWERTY?

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bret

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i can hardly multi task and spell so im not gonna try to learn dvorak
 

pennylane

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I switched to Dvorak almost a year ago (wow it's been that long?!). I don't feel any faster than QWERTY, but it's much more comfortable. Fingers don't have to move as far and there's less strain involved. After typing on Dvorak, QWERTY just feels unrefined and brutish.

I switched to Dvorak after being worried about RSIs (repetitive stress injuries). My fingers felt strained and tired about this time last year, so I looked into it. They feel a lot better and more comfortable. I had no concerns about speed. There are a few articles saying Dvorak is not much faster than QWERTY, if at all, but I didn't bother looking too much into it (the discussion I read was here). The switch is still worth it just for comfort alone.

I don't have trouble switching back and forth. Maybe initially but you never really forget. If you don't completely abandon QWERTY you'll be able to go back. I have to use school computers a lot so I do go back and forth a lot and I don't have a problem. One thing that may make that easier is having a keyboard that feels different from other keyboards. My keyboard feels like a laptop keyboard (for the sake of quietness), so when I type on it, I subconsciously think "Dvorak." When I type on other keyboards, I subconsciously think "QWERTY."

Switching will be good. I think you should try it. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more. Hope this helps.
 

Baked

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Waste of time and money IMO. I taught myself QWERTY typing when I was young, never had any wrist or finger problems. I type fairly fast, I see no need to switch to another layout so because some fanatics say it's better.
 

MournSanity

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I made a Dvorak keyboard a few years ago when I tried to learn it. It's been collecting dust ever since.
 

nitsuj3580

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Dont' feel the need to learn a different keyboard layout but I did force myself to use one of the MS Natural ergonomic keyboards after I got a few wrist pains. Now I can't go back to a regular keyboard. My hands feel cramped when I do.
 

BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: Baked
Waste of time and money IMO. I taught myself QWERTY typing when I was young, never had any wrist or finger problems. I type fairly fast, I see no need to switch to another layout so because some fanatics say it's better.


Fact: the Dvorak layout is more efficient then the QWERTY layout.
Fact: the Dvorak layout causes less strain on the hands, fingers, and wrists when typing.

These are not opinions, or things that only "fanatics" say, they are facts. They are set in stone, they have been proven time and time again.
According to the "Form Follows Function" idology, then it is obvious that the Dvorak layout is superior to the QWERTY layout.

Due to the fact that 99% (just a guess) of all keyboards are using the QWERTY layout, It is highly unlikely that many people are going to go through all the trouble to retrain themselves for a small speed improvement and comfort improvement. For most, the extra work will not be worth it.

In other words, The Dvorak Layout is superios to the QWERTY layout, however, not enough so that most people will switch.

It's kinda like th like MP3s vs "some new trendy compression format." Mp3s may need to be 320kbit to sound as good as a 192kbit of some other format, so the other format would save space and bandwidth, thus being "technically superior", but people are just set on mp3s and don't want to go through the trouble of re-ripping their entire CD collection to a different format. (I am one of those people)
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: Baked
Waste of time and money IMO. I taught myself QWERTY typing when I was young, never had any wrist or finger problems. I type fairly fast, I see no need to switch to another layout so because some fanatics say it's better.


Fact: the Dvorak layout is more efficient then the QWERTY layout.
Fact: the Dvorak layout causes less strain on the hands, fingers, and wrists when typing.

These are not opinions, or things that only "fanatics" say, they are facts. They are set in stone, they have been proven time and time again.
According to the "Form Follows Function" idology, then it is obvious that the Dvorak layout is superior to the QWERTY layout.

Due to the fact that 99% (just a guess) of all keyboards are using the QWERTY layout, It is highly unlikely that many people are going to go through all the trouble to retrain themselves for a small speed improvement and comfort improvement. For most, the extra work will not be worth it.

In other words, The Dvorak Layout is superios to the QWERTY layout, however, not enough so that most people will switch.

It's kinda like th like MP3s vs "some new trendy compression format." Mp3s may need to be 320kbit to sound as good as a 192kbit of some other format, so the other format would save space and bandwidth, thus being "technically superior", but people are just set on mp3s and don't want to go through the trouble of re-ripping their entire CD collection to a different format. (I am one of those people)

How is it more efficient? I don't get it.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: Baked
Waste of time and money IMO. I taught myself QWERTY typing when I was young, never had any wrist or finger problems. I type fairly fast, I see no need to switch to another layout so because some fanatics say it's better.


Fact: the Dvorak layout is more efficient then the QWERTY layout.
Fact: the Dvorak layout causes less strain on the hands, fingers, and wrists when typing.

These are not opinions, or things that only "fanatics" say, they are facts. They are set in stone, they have been proven time and time again.
According to the "Form Follows Function" idology, then it is obvious that the Dvorak layout is superior to the QWERTY layout.

Due to the fact that 99% (just a guess) of all keyboards are using the QWERTY layout, It is highly unlikely that many people are going to go through all the trouble to retrain themselves for a small speed improvement and comfort improvement. For most, the extra work will not be worth it.

In other words, The Dvorak Layout is superios to the QWERTY layout, however, not enough so that most people will switch.

It's kinda like th like MP3s vs "some new trendy compression format." Mp3s may need to be 320kbit to sound as good as a 192kbit of some other format, so the other format would save space and bandwidth, thus being "technically superior", but people are just set on mp3s and don't want to go through the trouble of re-ripping their entire CD collection to a different format. (I am one of those people)

How is it more efficient? I don't get it.

Words commonly require less finger/hand movement in dvorak vs. qwerty. Thus they're easier on the hands and can be typed faster. The typing speed world record holder, who sustained 150wpm for one hour, uses dvorak.
 

aplefka

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Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: Baked
Waste of time and money IMO. I taught myself QWERTY typing when I was young, never had any wrist or finger problems. I type fairly fast, I see no need to switch to another layout so because some fanatics say it's better.


Fact: the Dvorak layout is more efficient then the QWERTY layout.
Fact: the Dvorak layout causes less strain on the hands, fingers, and wrists when typing.

These are not opinions, or things that only "fanatics" say, they are facts. They are set in stone, they have been proven time and time again.
According to the "Form Follows Function" idology, then it is obvious that the Dvorak layout is superior to the QWERTY layout.

Due to the fact that 99% (just a guess) of all keyboards are using the QWERTY layout, It is highly unlikely that many people are going to go through all the trouble to retrain themselves for a small speed improvement and comfort improvement. For most, the extra work will not be worth it.

In other words, The Dvorak Layout is superios to the QWERTY layout, however, not enough so that most people will switch.

It's kinda like th like MP3s vs "some new trendy compression format." Mp3s may need to be 320kbit to sound as good as a 192kbit of some other format, so the other format would save space and bandwidth, thus being "technically superior", but people are just set on mp3s and don't want to go through the trouble of re-ripping their entire CD collection to a different format. (I am one of those people)

How is it more efficient? I don't get it.

Words commonly require less finger/hand movement in dvorak vs. qwerty. Thus they're easier on the hands and can be typed faster. The typing speed world record holder, who sustained 150wpm for one hour, uses dvorak.

Holy sh1t! 150wpm for an hour?! I thought getting 137 on a 2-minute test last year was good, but I could never sustain it. Also, the words weren't too complicated so that made it a lot easier.