Anybody here practice Tai Chi or QiGong?

[OutHouse]

The past 3 months i have been studying Zen Shiatsu and have really become aware of my Qi. I have been thinking about joining a Tai Chi group to cultivate my own energy awareness.

I am just wondering if other ATOT memebers practice Tai Chi or QiGong and for how long. Also why you do it.

 

[Koing]

Not personally but I've had a few people I know big on the idea.

But it would be interesting to hear from other people and you.

So h ow have you *become aware of your Chi*?

I'm more of a believer in ass whooping though. Tried and trusted ass whooping. Knee a guy in the gut smash down his head with your elbow and if he isn't on the floor then fvck there is something wrong with your moves! Hit him again and he'll go down. Get him on the ground arm bar, key lock, triangle choke, kimoura.

I suppose I'm a bit of a believer but not quite so but it would still be interesting to hear from you and others experiences though.

 

[gopunk]

no, but one time a guy who taught my mom when she was little came to visit us... he was like 80 or something but could kick just about anyone's ass. just like in the movies.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: gopunk
no, but one time a guy who taught my mom when she was little came to visit us... he was like 80 or something but could kick just about anyone's ass. just like in the movies.

Joking or for real?

I'm a great beliver in athleticism though. I can't imagine an 80yr guy being able to be strong enough to do much or fast enough either at that age. Hes 80! Maybe not so strong but the speed factor would be iffy though......

 

[OutHouse]

So h ow have you *become aware of your Chi*?

Lots of meditation and studying the 12 meridians in the body along with Chi sensitivity exercises.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Koing


I'm more of a believer in ass whooping though. Tried and trusted ass whooping. Knee a guy in the gut smash down his head with your elbow and if he isn't on the floor then fvck there is something wrong with your moves! Hit him again and he'll go down. Get him on the ground arm bar, key lock, triangle choke, kimoura.

I personally prefer 2x quarter turn forward + punch to finish the job....

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: gopunk
no, but one time a guy who taught my mom when she was little came to visit us... he was like 80 or something but could kick just about anyone's ass. just like in the movies.

Joking or for real?

I'm a great beliver in athleticism though. I can't imagine an 80yr guy being able to be strong enough to do much or fast enough either at that age. Hes 80! Maybe not so strong but the speed factor would be iffy though......

no for real. he was healthy and strong, but most of it was that he really knew how to redirect power well.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: gopunk
no, but one time a guy who taught my mom when she was little came to visit us... he was like 80 or something but could kick just about anyone's ass. just like in the movies.

Joking or for real?

I'm a great beliver in athleticism though. I can't imagine an 80yr guy being able to be strong enough to do much or fast enough either at that age. Hes 80! Maybe not so strong but the speed factor would be iffy though......

How many times do I have to say this to you people?! Technique is the most important! Good technique in turn brings good power due to proper body archetecture, and also brings forth good speed due to its recovery/tactical use. Now great technique will render one almost invincible (unless the great equilizer is brought into consideration). I guess I can say this until I'm blue in the face and no one will believe me, heh . . .

Anyhoo, my Si-Fu is an overwight middle aged IT guy working for State Farm and he can whup the living crap out of any of us, whether one can rip out another's arms or not It's all due to proper technique and his incredible sensitivity . . ...

And one more thing - as to the original question, we're an internal style, like Bagua/Pa Kua, Tai Chi/TaiJiQuan, or Hsing I/XingYiQuan, but we don't profess the belief in "Chi", our attitue is "if you believe in it and it helps, good." So we don't outright practice it. But over time, I've felt something in my forearms that I can't quite explain . . ..

And one more thing - the power generation for striking is different than in external styles . . . it's like a "wave" going through your body . . . kinda cool and scary at the same time . . .

And yes, I believe you should practice one of the Neiji styles . . . they're hella fun!

EDIT

Just because it's "internal" doesn't mean it's "nice". I've been elbowed to the ribs, kneed to the groins, dropped from shoulder height, etc. repeatedly in those classes. Still doesn't mean that it can't be good for your health . And after all that, I still can't touch my Si-Fu . . .

 

[amnesiac]

Originally posted by: JehovahHow many times do I have to say this to you people?! Technique is the most important! Good technique in turn brings good power due to proper body archetecture, and also brings forth good speed due to its recovery/tactical use. Now great technique will render one almost invincible (unless the great equilizer is brought into consideration). I guess I can say this until I'm blue in the face and no one will believe me, heh . . .

You're wrong. SnapIT will rip off your arms, weakling.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: amnesiac

Originally posted by: JehovahHow many times do I have to say this to you people?! Technique is the most important! Good technique in turn brings good power due to proper body archetecture, and also brings forth good speed due to its recovery/tactical use. Now great technique will render one almost invincible (unless the great equilizer is brought into consideration). I guess I can say this until I'm blue in the face and no one will believe me, heh . . .

You're wrong. SnapIT will rip off your arms, weakling.

:Q Eek!

*Runs like a little girly-man*

 

[LordRaiden]

Well, I know and practice Tai Chi, but nothing like what you're doing. I learned my Tai Chi from a sweet old Korean lady. So I have absolutely no idea what form it is.

 

[joohang]

There is a Korean new religion called Tanhak Sonwon who are growing rapidly and attracting many foreign followers. There are similar variations of this religion which in North America may simply be known as "Korean" qigong or meditation/martial arts school.

My professor joined one for a while and he told me (with no exaggeration) that old men in their 80s would literally stand upside down on their head and get trained. He also told me how energetic and alert he was after the practice.

I think that the stuff definitely works. And I think this is why people do it. Curiosity may be another reason.

 

[prontospyder]

My mom has been practicing Tai Chi for a few years now.

 

[GermyBoy]

I love it how someone suggests that something exists, and it automatically does. Next, you'll use your Qi or Chi or whatever you call it to become invincible, invisible, and you can fly too. That must be how Superman does it.

 

[KokomoGST]

Ok... QiGong done properly will help you manage your Chi/Ki/Qi and harness it to make you healthier and stronger. It's going to be a lot faster than going the Tai Chi route toward harnessing your chi in the real world. Plus using Tai Chi to manipulate it can be dangerous... if used improperly, you can hurt yourself. The principles are used in accupuncture... do you doubt the effacy of that?

Technique is a large part, but the sheer amount of power one can harness with the awareness and harnessing of a bit of chi is truly amazing. If you can try it for yourself, you'll know it works. BTW, learning to harness chi through TC can take months/years. QiGong... weeks.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: GermyBoy
I love it how someone suggests that something exists, and it automatically does. Next, you'll use your Qi or Chi or whatever you call it to become invincible, invisible, and you can fly too. That must be how Superman does it.

I was wondering that too. What's with people all of a sudden finding their "Chi" or "Qi"? What is that anyway? Something that we all have, like an arm, but we never noticed before? Next, how do you know when you've found this Qi? Do you just wake up in the middle of the night and realize that you have an extra finger or extra toe and say "Look! My Qi!!!"? I always wondered that about budhists. How do they know when they've reached enlightenment? And some of them put off enlightenment to help others, but how do you put off becoming enlightened? Do they start hitting themselves in the head with a brick everytime they start to feel they are becoming enlightened? I think it's all a bunch of dog doo on the ground. Some person a long time ago realized that people are gullible and starting thinking of ways to exploit this. He decided to invent something called a "Qi" and only people who are truly gullible will be able to find it. You must sit in one place for hours on end and not think of anything...suddenly, you will discover that you have a "Qi". How does that work? Wouldn't it be easier to actually look for it, rather than try to find it by accident while sitting there looking like a ninny? Also, why not share where this Qi is located with the rest of us? I'd like to know where my Qi is, but no one will help me. They all say that I have to find it myself. What's with that? Why not share this wealth of info with everyone else instead of hoarding it all to yourself? Oh well. I guess my only hope that I don't accidentally squish my Qi when I roll over in the middle of the night. When I find it, I can make sure to put it in a safe place so that doesn't happen.

 

[GermyBoy]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GermyBoy I love it how someone suggests that something exists, and it automatically does. Next, you'll use your Qi or Chi or whatever you call it to become invincible, invisible, and you can fly too. That must be how Superman does it.

I was wondering that too. What's with people all of a sudden finding their "Chi" or "Qi"? What is that anyway? Something that we all have, like an arm, but we never noticed before? Next, how do you know when you've found this Qi? Do you just wake up in the middle of the night and realize that you have an extra finger or extra toe and say "Look! My Qi!!!"? I always wondered that about budhists. How do they know when they've reached enlightenment? And some of them put off enlightenment to help others, but how do you put off becoming enlightened? Do they start hitting themselves in the head with a brick everytime they start to feel they are becoming enlightened? I think it's all a bunch of dog doo on the ground. Some person a long time ago realized that people are gullible and starting thinking of ways to exploit this. He decided to invent something called a "Qi" and only people who are truly gullible will be able to find it. You must sit in one place for hours on end and not think of anything...suddenly, you will discover that you have a "Qi". How does that work? Wouldn't it be easier to actually look for it, rather than try to find it by accident while sitting there looking like a ninny? Also, why not share where this Qi is located with the rest of us? I'd like to know where my Qi is, but no one will help me. They all say that I have to find it myself. What's with that? Why not share this wealth of info with everyone else instead of hoarding it all to yourself? Oh well. I guess my only hope that I don't accidentally squish my Qi when I roll over in the middle of the night. When I find it, I can make sure to put it in a safe place so that doesn't happen.

You mention very good points, XZeroII. My grandmother, who believed she found her Qi/Chi/Ki quickly took it to the bank and put it in a safety deposit box, just to be safe. A few months later, she got a call from the bank, saying that her box was growing mold and that mold was starting to stink up the vault, and she'd have to come in and remove whatever the problem was. She came hold with a moldy piece of cheese in a ziploc bag.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: GermyBoy

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GermyBoy I love it how someone suggests that something exists, and it automatically does. Next, you'll use your Qi or Chi or whatever you call it to become invincible, invisible, and you can fly too. That must be how Superman does it.

I was wondering that too. What's with people all of a sudden finding their "Chi" or "Qi"? What is that anyway? Something that we all have, like an arm, but we never noticed before? Next, how do you know when you've found this Qi? Do you just wake up in the middle of the night and realize that you have an extra finger or extra toe and say "Look! My Qi!!!"? I always wondered that about budhists. How do they know when they've reached enlightenment? And some of them put off enlightenment to help others, but how do you put off becoming enlightened? Do they start hitting themselves in the head with a brick everytime they start to feel they are becoming enlightened? I think it's all a bunch of dog doo on the ground. Some person a long time ago realized that people are gullible and starting thinking of ways to exploit this. He decided to invent something called a "Qi" and only people who are truly gullible will be able to find it. You must sit in one place for hours on end and not think of anything...suddenly, you will discover that you have a "Qi". How does that work? Wouldn't it be easier to actually look for it, rather than try to find it by accident while sitting there looking like a ninny? Also, why not share where this Qi is located with the rest of us? I'd like to know where my Qi is, but no one will help me. They all say that I have to find it myself. What's with that? Why not share this wealth of info with everyone else instead of hoarding it all to yourself? Oh well. I guess my only hope that I don't accidentally squish my Qi when I roll over in the middle of the night. When I find it, I can make sure to put it in a safe place so that doesn't happen.

You mention very good points, XZeroII. My grandmother, who believed she found her Qi/Chi/Ki quickly took it to the bank and put it in a safety deposit box, just to be safe. A few months later, she got a call from the bank, saying that her box was growing mold and that mold was starting to stink up the vault, and she'd have to come in and remove whatever the problem was. She came hold with a moldy piece of cheese in a ziploc bag.

I've got something growing between my toes...could that be my Qi?

 

[GermyBoy]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GermyBoy

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GermyBoy I love it how someone suggests that something exists, and it automatically does. Next, you'll use your Qi or Chi or whatever you call it to become invincible, invisible, and you can fly too. That must be how Superman does it.

I was wondering that too. What's with people all of a sudden finding their "Chi" or "Qi"? What is that anyway? Something that we all have, like an arm, but we never noticed before? Next, how do you know when you've found this Qi? Do you just wake up in the middle of the night and realize that you have an extra finger or extra toe and say "Look! My Qi!!!"? I always wondered that about budhists. How do they know when they've reached enlightenment? And some of them put off enlightenment to help others, but how do you put off becoming enlightened? Do they start hitting themselves in the head with a brick everytime they start to feel they are becoming enlightened? I think it's all a bunch of dog doo on the ground. Some person a long time ago realized that people are gullible and starting thinking of ways to exploit this. He decided to invent something called a "Qi" and only people who are truly gullible will be able to find it. You must sit in one place for hours on end and not think of anything...suddenly, you will discover that you have a "Qi". How does that work? Wouldn't it be easier to actually look for it, rather than try to find it by accident while sitting there looking like a ninny? Also, why not share where this Qi is located with the rest of us? I'd like to know where my Qi is, but no one will help me. They all say that I have to find it myself. What's with that? Why not share this wealth of info with everyone else instead of hoarding it all to yourself? Oh well. I guess my only hope that I don't accidentally squish my Qi when I roll over in the middle of the night. When I find it, I can make sure to put it in a safe place so that doesn't happen.

You mention very good points, XZeroII. My grandmother, who believed she found her Qi/Chi/Ki quickly took it to the bank and put it in a safety deposit box, just to be safe. A few months later, she got a call from the bank, saying that her box was growing mold and that mold was starting to stink up the vault, and she'd have to come in and remove whatever the problem was. She came hold with a moldy piece of cheese in a ziploc bag.

I've got something growing between my toes...could that be my Qi?

There can only be one way to find out. Go to the doctor, and if it is, you should worship it, but don't become enlightened because you'll want to help others.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: GermyBoy
I love it how someone suggests that something exists, and it automatically does. Next, you'll use your Qi or Chi or whatever you call it to become invincible, invisible, and you can fly too. That must be how Superman does it.

yea sort of like god... *shrug*

 

[GermyBoy]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: GermyBoy I love it how someone suggests that something exists, and it automatically does. Next, you'll use your Qi or Chi or whatever you call it to become invincible, invisible, and you can fly too. That must be how Superman does it.

yea sort of like god... *shrug*

Exactly. You know what's up now.

 

[Koing]

I agree I'm more sceptical about Chi and Qi. I'd like to see a person who has found this compete with people who haven't found it.......

But at the same time I choose to believe in God and a religion....hmmmmmmm...........but not so much in to Chi or Qi.

A few weeks you found it doing Qi? hmmmmmmm...............