Anybody have/used a 2.35:1 constant image height setup?

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Being the moron that I am, I was bored and went to the site designed for making you spend money, AVSforum. (I have resisted going to headfi, thank goodness)

I was looking through the 2.35:1 forum for the first time and learned that my own Infocus 4805 was one of the projectors capable of doing the proper stretching/scaling to get this type of setup running without an external scaler.

I've been slowly working on putting a border around the 16:9 image of my projector mandatory pic and that ratio fits very well above the fireplace here.

I'm putting off making the blocks that will need to be removable to fit 4:3 / 2.35:1 material so far 😛

Next year thought I'm going to have free reign over how things go with a different wall, so I'm wondering if anyone has any comments here on AT. The vast majority of the material we watch is DVDs, and most of those are wider than 16:9. It seems like lenses are pretty darn expensive (~$700) so I would have a pretty hard time justifying it, but it seems like a very cool idea.

So anybody used one / set one up / have one?

(besides an actual movie theater)

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Bump for finishing the borders

16:9 (same pic as above)
4:3
2.35:1

 

[dawnbug]

I'm impressed with the paper screen. 🙂 It looks a lot better than I could've ever imagined.

 

[Excelsior]

NEATO!

 

[mercanucaribe]

You want to use lenses to stretch the image? Why not run it the way it is and move the projector a little further from the screen... you won't need all your pixels with DVD res anyway.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
You want to use lenses to stretch the image? Why not run it the way it is and move the projector a little further from the screen... you won't need all your pixels with DVD res anyway.

The projector is only ED, so I think I can use all the pixels I can get.

This is for next year mainly as 16:9 fits perfectly in the area above the fireplace now.

The main advantages to me seem to be mainly that most movies would then take up the whole screen rather than having black bars on the top and bottom and then blocking off the portions of the unused screen will then only include blocking off the sides rather than having to change between blocking off the top+bottom and sides.

 

[Viper GTS]

Personally I'd look into a motorized masking system.

Too much variety in aspect ratios out there to get fixed to such a wide ratio.

Viper GTS

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Personally I'd look into a motorized masking system.

Too much variety in aspect ratios out there to get fixed to such a wide ratio.

Viper GTS

I would think about that except we're going to be moving several times over the next few years so I don't want to get too fancy with a screen setup as far as mounting things etc.

The other thing is that we watch a good amount of TV shows on DVD that are 4:3 so a 2.35:1 screen would have a pretty darn small 4:3 area if we wanted to watch something on it.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Personally I'd look into a motorized masking system.

Too much variety in aspect ratios out there to get fixed to such a wide ratio.

Viper GTS

I would think about that except we're going to be moving several times over the next few years so I don't want to get too fancy with a screen setup as far as mounting things etc.

The other thing is that we watch a good amount of TV shows on DVD that are 4:3 so a 2.35:1 screen would have a pretty darn small 4:3 area if we wanted to watch something on it.

I guess my theory is that 16:9 is a nice happy medium, make the largest 16:9 screen you can & mask from there.

Or better yet (though a lot more work) make the biggest screen you can, period. Then mask for EVERY ratio.

No matter what you decide there's always going to be SOMETHING that doesn't fit it perfectly.

:roll:

Viper GTS

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Personally I'd look into a motorized masking system.

Too much variety in aspect ratios out there to get fixed to such a wide ratio.

Viper GTS

I would think about that except we're going to be moving several times over the next few years so I don't want to get too fancy with a screen setup as far as mounting things etc.

The other thing is that we watch a good amount of TV shows on DVD that are 4:3 so a 2.35:1 screen would have a pretty darn small 4:3 area if we wanted to watch something on it.

I guess my theory is that 16:9 is a nice happy medium, make the largest 16:9 screen you can & mask from there.

Or better yet (though a lot more work) make the biggest screen you can, period. Then mask for EVERY ratio.

No matter what you decide there's always going to be SOMETHING that doesn't fit it perfectly.

:roll:

Viper GTS

Yeah, but with making the biggest possible and masking for everything that's going to have to involve zooming and refocusing of the projector too.

Oh well, at least there are projects out there if I want to put some more effort into it 😉

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Yeah, but with making the biggest possible and masking for everything that's going to have to involve zooming and refocusing of the projector too.

Like I said, a lot more work... From the curtain standpoint it wouldn't be too much more complicated since you have to have both horizontal and vertical masks no matter what.

I don't have any place to setup a projector anyway, but one of these days...

Viper GTS

 

[SearchMaster]

Does it really bother you when watching 2.35 content on a 16:9 screen? I have the same projector, and since the bars are black and I already have a black border around the screen, I don't really notice.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
Does it really bother you when watching 2.35 content on a 16:9 screen? I have the same projector, and since the bars are black and I already have a black border around the screen, I don't really notice.

The new masking panels I made make a pretty big difference for what it looks like.

It doesn't really bother me, it's just that it would be nice if the more "epic" movies that are usually shot in 2.35:1 were the largest area on the screen.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Personally I'd look into a motorized masking system.

Too much variety in aspect ratios out there to get fixed to such a wide ratio.

Viper GTS

I would think about that except we're going to be moving several times over the next few years so I don't want to get too fancy with a screen setup as far as mounting things etc.

The other thing is that we watch a good amount of TV shows on DVD that are 4:3 so a 2.35:1 screen would have a pretty darn small 4:3 area if we wanted to watch something on it.

Why do you guys move so much?

 

[dawnbug]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Personally I'd look into a motorized masking system.

Too much variety in aspect ratios out there to get fixed to such a wide ratio.

Viper GTS

I would think about that except we're going to be moving several times over the next few years so I don't want to get too fancy with a screen setup as far as mounting things etc.

The other thing is that we watch a good amount of TV shows on DVD that are 4:3 so a 2.35:1 screen would have a pretty darn small 4:3 area if we wanted to watch something on it.

Why do you guys move so much?

College. We were in the dorms for a few years, but had to move home in the summers, and now we're in a house with some other people and would've liked to have stayed here next year, but our other roommates are doing other things and we can't afford the rent for this two bedroom house alone. So we're going home this summer and then moving into a one bedroom in the fall, which will hopefully be the last place until we graduate. 🙂

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Personally I'd look into a motorized masking system.

Too much variety in aspect ratios out there to get fixed to such a wide ratio.

Viper GTS

I would think about that except we're going to be moving several times over the next few years so I don't want to get too fancy with a screen setup as far as mounting things etc.

The other thing is that we watch a good amount of TV shows on DVD that are 4:3 so a 2.35:1 screen would have a pretty darn small 4:3 area if we wanted to watch something on it.

Why do you guys move so much?

College. We were in the dorms for a few years, but had to move home in the summers, and now we're in a house with some other people and would've liked to have stayed here next year, but our other roommates are doing other things and we can't afford the rent for this two bedroom house alone. So we're going home this summer and then moving into a one bedroom in the fall, which will hopefully be the last place until we graduate. 🙂

Lets move more for fun!

 

[mercanucaribe]

Wait so all you did was put black stuff around the 2.35:1 image because your projector projects grey instead of black?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Wait so all you did was put black stuff around the 2.35:1 image because your projector projects grey instead of black?

Well it projects "black", but the darker blocks around it make it pop more and the edges are less distracting. The black surface is darker than the darkest black the projector can do (the color of the screen).

 

[dawnbug]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Wait so all you did was put black stuff around the 2.35:1 image because your projector projects grey instead of black?

Well it projects "black", but the darker blocks around it make it pop more and the edges are less distracting. The black surface is darker than the darkest black the projector can do (the color of the screen).

And it really makes the picture look a lot better than it looks sans border.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Wait so all you did was put black stuff around the 2.35:1 image because your projector projects grey instead of black?

Well it projects "black", but the darker blocks around it make it pop more and the edges are less distracting. The black surface is darker than the darkest black the projector can do (the color of the screen).

Yeah that's what i meant.