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Anybody got one of those 2400+ chips running yet!!!

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If that was the case, then that would explain the 333 FSB advertising that's every where. I would be curious to know this myself! How is performance? Benches to post? What MOBO, MEM and AGP timings are you using? Just curious. Change the Multiplier and see if it boots. Then you will know if it's unlocked. Even at default FSB it should lock up, more than likely if it is locked.😎
EDIT for redundancy!😉
 
As far as I know they all should be factory locked....

The 2400-2600 chips should be 266fsb chips still, right...only the 2700-2800 to come out later this year were the 333fsb chips...


Good luck!!!
 
Chronic, you should head over to amdforums and check to see if your motherboard will run it without unlocking it. At least some of the KT400 boards will allow changing the multiplyers w/o unlocking the chip, but I am not sure about any 333 boards.
 
Check out this think more ppl talkin about the 2400+ xps and I have to say I am not that impressed with the levels ppl are getting to. After the reviews ppl were spouting 2.5ghz while it looks like 2.3ghz is a blessing....

AMDMB.com

Check out the guy is running water cooled with 1.9v (updates at end) and he still only gets about 2.2ghz with the 2400+....

Another guy is telling him to overvolt it to like 2-2.2v....

That trips me out. How does AMD make a .13 micron chip that can take the same voltage as .18micron chip can and not damage it....What is INtel doing different???
 
I only intend to setup and maintain default settings except for any default tweaking i.e. multiplier if unlocked as asked before and FSB settings. I am interested to know what default settings are initiated as the MOBO picks up the new CPU on it's own. It will always pick up the 1600+ as 100 FSB if it is at normal setting. I don't think that this board is very intuitive in that regard. Maybe just a safety factor? 2nd BIOS upgrade gave huge performance boosts, without touching the settings.
 
Here she is!😀 And what fast delivery!!!!! It got here about 5 minutes ago!!!!!!!😎😀. First wcpuid Stock on Normal- Auto detect:
[ WCPUID Version 3.1 (c) 1996-2002 By H.Oda! ]

Processor #1 : AMD Athlon XP (Model 8) / ED55F170
Platform : Socket A (Socket 462)
Vendor String : AuthenticAMD
CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0)
Family : 6 (7)
Model : 8 (8)
Stepping ID : 1 (1)
Brand : ----
APIC : ----
Name String : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+

Internal Clock : 2000.06 MHz
System Bus : 266.67 MHz DDR
System Clock : 133.34 MHz
Multiplier : 15.0

L1 I-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ----
L1 Cache : ----
L2 Cache : 256K Byte
L2 Speed : 2000.06 MHz (Full)

MMX Unit : Supported
SSE Unit : Supported
SSE2 Unit : Not Supported
MMX2 Unit : Supported
3DNow! Unit : Supported
3DNow!+ Unit : Supported

Host Bridge : 1106:3189.00 [VIA Apollo KT400]
South Bridge : 1106:3177.00 [VIA VT8233A]
VGA Device : 10DE:0250.A3 [NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600]
Memory Size : 512M Byte
Memory Clock : By SPD.

OS Version : Windows 2000 Version 5.00.2195 Service Pack 3
-------------- : -----------------------------------

##--- Date 10/24/2002, Time 17:10:13
2 GIG s stock speed. 266 FSB that much is settled.

 
Now for some fun! All tests at normal perf. MEM by SPD cas2 2 5 3 1T

PCMARK 5765 CPU
3546 MEM
1206 HDD

CPUBENCH

Mflops 513.62
Mips 392
PI 5407
KPPS 4627.62

Sandra
Dhrystone 5542 MIPS
Whetstone 2797 Mflops
Multi Media Integer 11040 1t/s
Floating point 12224 it/s
Chipset MEM Bandwidth 1875 MB/sSiSoftware Sandra

Float iSSE Cache/Memory Results Breakdown
2kB Blocks : 16235MB/s
4kB Blocks : 17160MB/s
8kB Blocks : 17639MB/s
16kB Blocks : 14574MB/s
32kB Blocks : 12430MB/s
64kB Blocks : 11593MB/s
128kB Blocks : 7634MB/s
256kB Blocks : 6278MB/s
512kB Blocks : 821MB/s
1MB Blocks : 770MB/s
4MB Blocks : 769MB/s
16MB Blocks : 767MB/s
64MB Blocks : 765MB/s
256MB Blocks : 765MB/s
Data Item Size : 16-bytes / 128-bits
Buffering Used : No
Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Test Statistics
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No

Processor(s)
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Speed : 2.00GHz
Model Number : 2400 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR2926 (estimated)
Internal Data Cache : 64kB synchronous write-back
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC synchronous write-back

Technology Support
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : No
Hyper-Threading Technology : No
Extended AMD MMX Technology : Yes

System Chipset
Model : VIA Technologies Inc Unknown (3189)
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)
Max. Bus Bandwidth : 2128MB/s (estimated)

Performance Tips
Notice N5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice N5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice N5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip T102 : Consider using the Unicode version of Sandra.
Tip T2 : For more information about tips, press F1 and scroll to the Tips section.

Floatbuffer bandwidth 1781 MB/s
Cache and mem

3Dmark 2001 se 8313
 
Hey, if you have Unreal Tournament Disc 1, would you mind doing this:
  • Copy contents of Disc 1 to a folder on the hard drive
  • Use WinZip 8.1 to compress the folder at Maximum compression and time the compression
Thanks, I'd be interested in comparing that result to my system's results 😀
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Hey, if you have Unreal Tournament Disc 1, would you mind doing this:
  • Copy contents of Disc 1 to a folder on the hard drive
  • Use WinZip 8.1 to compress the folder at Maximum compression and time the compression
Thanks, I'd be interested in comparing that result to my system's results 😀
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2minutes 14 secs with above specs.
 
Now @ turbo perf. 133, mem @ 200 same cas and timings.
DMARK 2001 se 9124. Not very good boost wise, but mostly video test.

PCMARK 2002 bumped CPU to 5806 mem to 3641 and HDD to 1306. Hmm. not too great so far.

Benchmark results in UT2003
Fly by 133fps
Botmatch 58 fps cool!

Good news/ Bad news.
This is a AXDA core and is unlocked according to what I understand locked to be.
Manual settings of 133 x 16 /4 66 33 yield this at default vcore ( which BTW is 1.65) in re: to earlier posts.
[ WCPUID Version 3.1 (c) 1996-2002 By H.Oda! ]

Processor #1 : AMD Athlon XP (Model 8) / F18AAB22
Platform : Socket A (Socket 462)
Vendor String : AuthenticAMD
CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0)
Family : 6 (7)
Model : 8 (8)
Stepping ID : 1 (1)
Brand : ----
APIC : ----
Name String : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+

Internal Clock : 2127.99 MHz
System Bus : 266.00 MHz DDR
System Clock : 133.00 MHz
Multiplier : 16.0

L1 I-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ----
L1 Cache : ----
L2 Cache : 256K Byte
L2 Speed : 2127.99 MHz (Full)

MMX Unit : Supported
SSE Unit : Supported
SSE2 Unit : Not Supported
MMX2 Unit : Supported
3DNow! Unit : Supported
3DNow!+ Unit : Supported

Host Bridge : 1106:3189.00 [VIA Apollo KT400]
South Bridge : 1106:3177.00 [VIA VT8233A]
VGA Device : 10DE:0250.A3 [NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600]
Memory Size : 512M Byte
Memory Clock : ----

OS Version : Windows 2000 Version 5.00.2195 Service Pack 3
-------------- : -----------------------------------

##--- Date 01/01/2002, Time 00:06:22 That's the good news.

The bad news is that the CPU will not run on 166 FSB, and be stable. Can load to login and desktop, but produces errors for ntkernel. I'm pretty sure that a vcore boost would solve this, but defalut vcore is what I want for now. Longevity and stability. It is stable now at 104 deg. F vcore 1.66, DDR is 2.49 v w/ same cas 2 timings as noted above. AGP is stable @ 1.47. Default. Will up date soon.

aim me @ Okensai1 for specific things if you care to.🙂 Good luck to all. testing.......

Yeehaw. Iwonder how stable or how fast.............. Hmmmmmmmmmm.......
🙂😉🙁😱
 
Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
mechBgon what was yur time doing the same thing ? and what are yur system specs/settings ?
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With Zippy, it takes 3:51 at stock 1.4GHz, and 3:15 at 1.75GHz (166/166). I expect I'd get slightly faster times with Win2000 due to improved memory management. I'll give it a try on Turbo tomorrow just to satisfy my curiosity 😀 I did run the test on Turbo in the past, but he's gotten a makeover since then (different motherboard).
 
i was just reading This thread over at the oc forums and they have:
week 39
week 40
week 41
chips and the oc's look to be slightly higher even between just those as the weeks moves on
yours seems to be week 41 so that is good
these suckers are coming fresh off the presses grab um while their hot
heh

i wonder what fabs are making them
i think i'll wait a few more weeks and see if oc's change
also one thing that gets me is maybe when they start shipping/making 2600+, 2700+ and 2800+'s they'll put the better yeilding chips in those higher categories and the 2400+'s will be the lower yeilds that can't hit 2600+ or higher speeds and will limit yur oc's
i good note tho is these chips seem to handle higher voltages like champs so they should be great for you super cooling freaks

we'll just hafta see how well they yeild
I still gotta put my water block, pelts, and custom copper radiator to work..........
 
So are you saying soulkeeper that the 2400+ chips may oc less in the future because amd wil have to start using these higher yielding chips to meet demand for the other chips yet to be delivered??

I do notice that most seem to make it to 2600+ now at default vcore, some to 2700+, but no one I have seen has made it 2800+.....


Maybe after 4weeks we see how many of these chips really do like the vcore, and quit thinking that it entirely relies on heat produced alone. Water cooling alone is not going to save the gates from the high voltage....IE all the ppl who initially were running p4 northwoods in the 1.9v range with water cooling that have since lost them!!! I lost mine at 1.83v and I had temps well recognized as safe for air cooling....


Also I see that someone mentioned in that thread that no one has gotten a 2.4ghz air cooled system to date there, or shown proof of it....
 
well lowering the temps with a great cooling system definately helps counteract raising the temp with increased voltages
but yes too high of a voltage is a bad thing
as an analogy: you can only run so many volts through a certain guage wire (or type)
i'm sure we've all fryed a few cpu's in our times......

we still havn't seen even 10 people oc these things yet
whose to say the ones that have even know what they're doing or want to push their new 200$ prizes


why do you keep yur eye so close on what's going on with AMD procs Duvie ??
you plan on getting or building one ?
just bored or interested ??
 
I am always looking....If they turned out nice and the price drops I may justget one to have both so I can do more direct comparison and maybe help someone on the amd side of ocing....I see the 2400+ as being the best value for amd when and if amd can get the others out. I think they will get the yields up and when the 2800+ start arriving these lower chips will start to hit those levels pretty well and should be around 100-120 by then.....

I am also a little bored...INtel p4 ocing has been boring of late...Waiting for dual ddr mobos and HT p4's to spark a new round of curiousity....Pissed at AMD for te paper launching..BOred cause all the amd stuff is 1600+ amd xps no latest and greatest tbreds...Ya know!!!🙂


If I see 2.4-2.5ghz on a 2ghz chip with amds type of fpu I would get one to run my cadd operations at home solely!!!!

Edit: I hope you realize I am not a die hard intel fanboy!!! I buy amd and I just did for my office cadd pc. If I need a machine to run CADD I am no dummie I know the best at it and for the companies tight belt....

 
This system is my main system. It is currently 2400+ @ 2128. 133 x 16. Default vcore 1.65. I ran Turbo cad last nightfor a rather large Drawing of a 5 Acre jobsite in Lodi Cal. very smooth and stable. Usually when building a system, this is a good indication of stablity. The Floating point that handles all the calculations during import from DWG to TCW and open to the screen was not at all laggy or choppy. I am very impressed thus far. UT 2003 is amazingly fast. 133 fps fly by and 98 fps botmatch @ 1024x768. Temps to 110 for extended matches. Topped out at 109 in cad under any load with IE and Sandra burntest in the back round. Switched to Ajigo sf017-012 HSF. AMD approved. Volcano 7+ was 4 degrees hotter and 20 dba louder. good choice.
 
haha I wish i could afford the top of the line from both sides heh

those are some good scores

welp bbl i'm gonna go eat me some chilli
 
No problem...If anything I walked over my own thread...Your info is what I was going after...keep it coming!!!
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
No problem...If anything I walked over my own thread...Your info is what I was going after...keep it coming!!!
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Duvie, Thanx for saying so. I'm rather new here and don't wish to offend anyone. Don't know all the rules yet. As for this board and CPU combo, I like it alot, but there are better OCers out there.

 
AXDA core

running at 12.5x180 right now for a total of 2.25ghz and 1.825v core voltage.

its smokin' - and water cooled.

i unlocked it using the pin mod method someone used above. easyway to do it for sure....

dew.
 
Well, I am envious, Dew. I wish I could get mine to 2.25. 12.5 x 180 boots fine for me but Prime95 will produce an error almost immediately. Right now I am at 11.5 x 185 and stable. If I try to push the memory any higher I get errors in memtest.

I am very disappointed in the results I have had. I was really hoping for 2.3 GHz and am really surprised that 2.2 is not even reachable at this point. I realize the 1.75v limitation of my motherboard is one reason, but looking at other results I am not sure I could push it much further. I think you could look at this and start to see why there are no 2600+s available yet. I guess the .13 process is still in infancy at AMD and it is going to take some time to see better yields. Of course, it also could be a limitation of the AXP core itself. Time will tell.
 
Originally posted by: SteelyKen
Well, I am envious, Dew. I wish I could get mine to 2.25. 12.5 x 180 boots fine for me but Prime95 will produce an error almost immediately. Right now I am at 11.5 x 185 and stable. If I try to push the memory any higher I get errors in memtest.

I am very disappointed in the results I have had. I was really hoping for 2.3 GHz and am really surprised that 2.2 is not even reachable at this point. I realize the 1.75v limitation of my motherboard is one reason, but looking at other results I am not sure I could push it much further. I think you could look at this and start to see why there are no 2600+s available yet. I guess the .13 process is still in infancy at AMD and it is going to take some time to see better yields. Of course, it also could be a limitation of the AXP core itself. Time will tell.
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well... mine was not completely stable at the stated speeds.

i have it backed off to 2.2ghz at 12.5x176mhz. i am also running a gb of ram, so i am not sure what is the stability issue is.....

i value stability more than pushing it..... 😉

these cores aren't going much higher. but easy unlocking has made me happy. i haven't had an unlocked cpu since the t-birds.... nice.

btw: that pin mod method is fun 😀

dew.

 
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