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Anybody ever recover from Runner's Knee?

Chubbz

Golden Member
I'm 21 years old, 5'8", 170 lbs., good deal of muscle, i'd say a good 15 pounds of fat.

I decided to start training for a marathon. I never ran too much in my life. I mostly lifted weights and avoided cardio. Now, I want to work on my weak spots and increase my endurance and agility.

Anyhoo, I went out for a 3 mile run, maybe 2 months ago. After that one run, my left knee started to feel like it was grinding whenever I used stairs or jogged.

It hurt a lot.

Sure enough, it was patella femoral syndrome, and I've been sticking to a physical therapy program since the incident. I was 60% consistent with my program, so I could have done better, and I definitely paid for my negligence. I went for another run today thinking I'd be fine, but the pain came back. And now I have to continue my program with 100% dedication or I'm going to live with this for a long time... Any advice?


Cliffs: Ran, Got Runner's Knee, Want to Fix, Got Advice?
 
By no means am I a medical doctor or anythikng, but I had runner's knee from running every day for 2 years. I have been diagnosed with Chondromalacia in both my left and right knee and have 0% disability through the VA for it. I quit running after I got out of the Navy, but the pain part of it still acts up when I swim or run. It sucks.
 
I never had runners knee... But, after I quit running, I did get 'non-runners belly', trust me it's worse...
 
I don't know how much this would help, but perhaps you could find another activity that isn't so hard on your knees like biking. I hear running on a treadmill is even better than running on concrete, but don't quote me on that. Anyway, it seems like a bad idea to continue to run when it is hurting.
 
I had this before; it healed over time.

Just give your knee a rest for a while.

Edit: Not exactly sure if I had what you have.

After running excessive amounts (5 miles a day) my right knee started hurting tremendously. Sometimes it hurt to even walk. After about one month of this horrible pain, it just went away.
 
I had some pretty bad recurring knee pain my last year in the NCAAs as a distance runner. We were doing 30-40 miles a week, though, so could be something completely different than you. It kept up a few years after that while I continued my old competitive running style.

Eventually I figured out that it didn't matter how fast I was any more, though. So now I run on my midfoot instead of heel to toe, have a much shorter stride, keep my knees bent more, intentionally slow my foot before it slams into the ground, etc.. All things that hurt my speed but have completely gotten rid of my knee pain.

Back on the team if the pounding was too much the coach would often have us do aquatics training, cycling, or weight training. So keep in mind that you don't have to run every day to still contribute to your running ability.
 
Don't ask this guy, from Dallas Morning News:


Local runner says his streak hits 25 years

Allen runner says he hasn't missed a day since June 1982


09:23 PM CDT on Thursday, July 5, 2007



Runners often possess an obsessive-compulsive desire to train. Chuck Groseth of Allen is a prime example.

On Saturday, he celebrated his 25th anniversary of running every day. He said he has run about five miles a day since June 30, 1982.

Groseth, 48, said he isn't motivated by records. He doesn't keep a running log or have documentation to prove he has run daily.

He's simply driven not to miss a day.

"I won't quit running," he said. "I never did this to do anything other than to stay in shape and keep my mind clear. It's a great way to sort out problems of the previous day and plan the upcoming day."

Groseth said he's persevered through pain, time constraints and extreme weather, extending the streak to more than 9,000 days and, by his estimate, more than 45,000 miles.

"He will not miss a single day no matter what or where he is," said his wife, Patty. "He travels a lot for work, and even for vacation. He's always looking at his watch. He'll run the minute we get off the plane if he has to."

Groseth sets his alarm for 3:33 a.m. so he can rise and run. He said he needs only about six hours of sleep nightly.

One challenge came when Groseth lived in Sioux Falls, S.D. The temperature was 35 degrees below zero with winds blowing more than 50 mph. The wind chill approached 100 below.

"I wrapped myself in scarves," he said. "I covered everything but my eyes because I had to see. The next morning, my eyes were fused shut from discharge."

Another time, Groseth changed into his running clothes during a six-hour layover at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. He left the airport grounds and ran five miles before midnight and five miles after midnight. He counted the 10-mile effort as two days.

Over the years, Groseth has been bitten by a dog and chased by homeless people. He had a steroid injection for back pain and endured his share of severe colds.

Five years ago, his streak survived hernia surgery. He ran at 3 a.m. before heading to the hospital at 6 a.m., his wife said. He recovered all day and most of the next. The evening after the surgery, he said, he held his side and ran -- just 31/2 miles, though.

Groseth, a former all-state basketball player, put together a six-month running streak after college graduation. On June 29, 1982, he closed on a house and didn't have a chance to run, ending his streak at six months. That day, he decided he would not miss another day of running.

"It has been as normal as brushing your teeth, as any other daily responsibility," he said.
 
Originally posted by: grohl
Don't ask this guy, from Dallas Morning News:


Local runner says his streak hits 25 years

Allen runner says he hasn't missed a day since June 1982


09:23 PM CDT on Thursday, July 5, 2007



Runners often possess an obsessive-compulsive desire to train. Chuck Groseth of Allen is a prime example.

On Saturday, he celebrated his 25th anniversary of running every day. He said he has run about five miles a day since June 30, 1982.

Groseth, 48, said he isn't motivated by records. He doesn't keep a running log or have documentation to prove he has run daily.

He's simply driven not to miss a day.

"I won't quit running," he said. "I never did this to do anything other than to stay in shape and keep my mind clear. It's a great way to sort out problems of the previous day and plan the upcoming day."

Groseth said he's persevered through pain, time constraints and extreme weather, extending the streak to more than 9,000 days and, by his estimate, more than 45,000 miles.

"He will not miss a single day no matter what or where he is," said his wife, Patty. "He travels a lot for work, and even for vacation. He's always looking at his watch. He'll run the minute we get off the plane if he has to."

Groseth sets his alarm for 3:33 a.m. so he can rise and run. He said he needs only about six hours of sleep nightly.

One challenge came when Groseth lived in Sioux Falls, S.D. The temperature was 35 degrees below zero with winds blowing more than 50 mph. The wind chill approached 100 below.

"I wrapped myself in scarves," he said. "I covered everything but my eyes because I had to see. The next morning, my eyes were fused shut from discharge."

Another time, Groseth changed into his running clothes during a six-hour layover at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. He left the airport grounds and ran five miles before midnight and five miles after midnight. He counted the 10-mile effort as two days.

Over the years, Groseth has been bitten by a dog and chased by homeless people. He had a steroid injection for back pain and endured his share of severe colds.

Five years ago, his streak survived hernia surgery. He ran at 3 a.m. before heading to the hospital at 6 a.m., his wife said. He recovered all day and most of the next. The evening after the surgery, he said, he held his side and ran -- just 31/2 miles, though.

Groseth, a former all-state basketball player, put together a six-month running streak after college graduation. On June 29, 1982, he closed on a house and didn't have a chance to run, ending his streak at six months. That day, he decided he would not miss another day of running.

"It has been as normal as brushing your teeth, as any other daily responsibility," he said.


My dad is the same way. He's in his 60s now but he's run every day since the late 70s...he used to be a marathon runner, but now he just sticks to 8 miles a day and doesnt compete at all. I dont know how these people do it.
 
Originally posted by: grohl
Don't ask this guy, from Dallas Morning News:


Local runner says his streak hits 25 years

Allen runner says he hasn't missed a day since June 1982


09:23 PM CDT on Thursday, July 5, 2007



Runners often possess an obsessive-compulsive desire to train. Chuck Groseth of Allen is a prime example.

On Saturday, he celebrated his 25th anniversary of running every day. He said he has run about five miles a day since June 30, 1982.

Groseth, 48, said he isn't motivated by records. He doesn't keep a running log or have documentation to prove he has run daily.

He's simply driven not to miss a day.

"I won't quit running," he said. "I never did this to do anything other than to stay in shape and keep my mind clear. It's a great way to sort out problems of the previous day and plan the upcoming day."

Groseth said he's persevered through pain, time constraints and extreme weather, extending the streak to more than 9,000 days and, by his estimate, more than 45,000 miles.

"He will not miss a single day no matter what or where he is," said his wife, Patty. "He travels a lot for work, and even for vacation. He's always looking at his watch. He'll run the minute we get off the plane if he has to."

Groseth sets his alarm for 3:33 a.m. so he can rise and run. He said he needs only about six hours of sleep nightly.

One challenge came when Groseth lived in Sioux Falls, S.D. The temperature was 35 degrees below zero with winds blowing more than 50 mph. The wind chill approached 100 below.

"I wrapped myself in scarves," he said. "I covered everything but my eyes because I had to see. The next morning, my eyes were fused shut from discharge."

Another time, Groseth changed into his running clothes during a six-hour layover at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. He left the airport grounds and ran five miles before midnight and five miles after midnight. He counted the 10-mile effort as two days.

Over the years, Groseth has been bitten by a dog and chased by homeless people. He had a steroid injection for back pain and endured his share of severe colds.

Five years ago, his streak survived hernia surgery. He ran at 3 a.m. before heading to the hospital at 6 a.m., his wife said. He recovered all day and most of the next. The evening after the surgery, he said, he held his side and ran -- just 31/2 miles, though.

Groseth, a former all-state basketball player, put together a six-month running streak after college graduation. On June 29, 1982, he closed on a house and didn't have a chance to run, ending his streak at six months. That day, he decided he would not miss another day of running.

"It has been as normal as brushing your teeth, as any other daily responsibility," he said.

Forrest Gump unavailable for comment?
 
I guess the general consensus is:

you have to be born with invincible knees or i just have to wait this out
 
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