Anybody else buying AMD out of pity?

[madoka]

I've got 10 computers around the house. Most were AMD, but I've been switching them out as C2D seems to be the better chip. Last month, I swapped out three Athlon X2s with three E6600s. Now 8 of my machines are Intel with a couple of FXs remaining. I still TRY to buy AMD, if only out of pity and a deep seated desire to see them stick around as a competitor to Intel, but the next round of price cuts is going to make that hard.

 

[GFORCE100]

Originally posted by: madoka
I've got 10 computers around the house. Most were AMD, but I've been switching them out as C2D seems to be the better chip. Last month, I swapped out three Athlon X2s with three E6600s. Now 8 of my machines are Intel with a couple of FXs remaining. I still TRY to buy AMD, if only out of pity and a deep seated desire to see them stick around as a competitor to Intel, but the next round of price cuts is going to make that hard.

Why do you need so many PC's around the house? Whose paying the electricity bill?

There's no reason to buy AMD right now, Intel really has got the better deal at the moment.

One thing AMD won't have a long time is the quality of chipsets Intel has. I highly doubt ATI can produce anything more than the quality of VIA or SIS in terms of chipsets for AMD CPU's.

 

[DrMrLordX]

You don't need to have pity for AMD to find a reason to buy an X2. The X2-3600+ Brisbane is a great deal in the budget segment, and AM2 boards will accept K10 processors once they are released later this year, making for a nice upgrade path.

 

[coolpurplefan]

They won't have that much pity from me. They said perfect drivers for Vista and launch of entire family of R600 on May 14, 2007.

Well, that's not the case and I'm kind of bummed out. I mean, I think companies these days have a tendency to come out with more positive comments and promises when there's trouble and their backs are up against a wall.

By the way, anyone can feel free to congratulate me on my first real successful trade (joke). I've kind of dabbled in stocks on and off and lost money for years. I just bought AMD around $13.50 and sold it around $15.50 That's a pretty cool trade if you ask me. The idea behind the trade is "buy the rumor, sell the news" like in the book "Rule the Freakin' Markets" by Michael Parness. I have no idea what I'm going to do for my next trade. I haven't had the time to look at anything lately.

If I die a poor and frustrated man, at least I know I did one good trade.

 

[GFORCE100]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
They won't have that much pity from me. They said perfect drivers for Vista and launch of entire family of R600 on May 14, 2007.

Well, that's not the case and I'm kind of bummed out. I mean, I think companies these days have a tendency to come out with more positive comments and promises when there's trouble and their backs are up against a wall.

By the way, anyone can feel free to congratulate me on my first real successful trade (joke). I've kind of dabbled in stocks on and off and lost money for years. I just bought AMD around $13.50 and sold it around $15.50 That's a pretty cool trade if you ask me. The idea behind the trade is "buy the rumor, sell the news" like in the book "Rule the Freakin' Markets" by Michael Parness. I have no idea what I'm going to do for my next trade. I haven't had the time to look at anything lately.

If I die a poor and frustrated man, at least I know I did one good trade.

Congratulations. Once you build up some substantial funds, never invest 100% of it or you'll be back to square one. Also, read quarter forecasts for blue chip companies and any updates to these, followed by analysts comments. Use this information to buy when things look bad providing the future is more promising. This depends on whether you want long term or short term profits, a lot of info seeking and analysis + understanding past company history performance is vital here. AMD has had a nice 2003-2005 lately but remember the trouble they were in back in 1995-8. There could very well be a similar repeat of this in the near future so don't bet your horses on AMD, unless you're in for quick gains (buy and sell in days, not months). It's usually difficult to earn bigger money on very large companies, there's more movement in the smaller IT companies but they also carry higher risk.

Of course, enjoy your profits and remember to give to the poor or ill

 

[Phynaz]

What pity did AMD show you when they were selling 3800 X2 for $300?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: GFORCE100

Originally posted by: madoka
I've got 10 computers around the house. Most were AMD, but I've been switching them out as C2D seems to be the better chip. Last month, I swapped out three Athlon X2s with three E6600s. Now 8 of my machines are Intel with a couple of FXs remaining. I still TRY to buy AMD, if only out of pity and a deep seated desire to see them stick around as a competitor to Intel, but the next round of price cuts is going to make that hard.

Why do you need so many PC's around the house? Whose paying the electricity bill?

There's no reason to buy AMD right now, Intel really has got the better deal at the moment.

One thing AMD won't have a long time is the quality of chipsets Intel has. I highly doubt ATI can produce anything more than the quality of VIA or SIS in terms of chipsets for AMD CPU's.

Maybe like me, half for my son's lan parties (nobody brings a box, mine are allways faster than what they have), and the rest for distributed computing.

 

[Noema]

The low end X2 processors are excellent bang for the buck budget parts. No need for pity.

 

[five4o]

Originally posted by: Phynaz
What pity did AMD show you when they were selling 3800 X2 for $300?

They got me on that one.
I have no brand loyalty, who ever makes the better product with competitive pricing gets my money.
I would like to see AMD being competitive in the future but at the moment they have very little to offer the consumer.

There brand new 2900XT just manages to keep up with middle of the pack 8800's.
I waited for it's release thinking they were gonna release the entire r600 line to pick up a new video card but after only releasing the 2900xt I don't feel like waiting two more months for the rest of the line up to be released. I'm not a gamer so the 8800 and the 2900 are two much power for me and the 8600's suck.

 

[Kur]

I'm still running a X2 3800+, I really don't need anymore. I game, and do school work. Never had a single problem and will keep buying AMD because of all the problems I had with Intel in the past.

Unless I'm trying to encode a HD video I see no reason to really upgrade.

 

[GFORCE100]

Originally posted by: Kur
I'm still running a X2 3800+, I really don't need anymore. I game, and do school work. Never had a single problem and will keep buying AMD because of all the problems I had with Intel in the past.

Unless I'm trying to encode a HD video I see no reason to really upgrade.

I can't think of what problems these might have been.

You're most probably referring to BIOS problems by MSI, Gigabyte, Asus etc.

 

[f4phantom2500]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
You don't need to have pity for AMD to find a reason to buy an X2. The X2-3600+ Brisbane is a great deal in the budget segment, and AM2 boards will accept K10 processors once they are released later this year, making for a nice upgrade path.

hell yeah! my 3600 and tforce 550 are coming in today. overclocked to 3ghz it should be roughly comparable to a stock e6600. all for $145. can intel beat that deal? no, not when their lowest end c2d costs slightly less than twice as much as the 3600 and won't overclock to be twice as fast. so in the "low end" (heh, i love that this is considered low end), amd is definitely the better deal.

 

[MarcVenice]

bah as far as I'm concerned most of amd's cpu's are prices in such a way that they can keep up with c2d's at the same price. Am2 boards come cheaper too, so no need for pity. Any non overclocking person who needs a new pc might as well toss a coin between amd and intel, and hell, ppl on a budget or no need for high end stuff should still go with amd.

 

[Night201]

Originally posted by: GFORCE100

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
They won't have that much pity from me. They said perfect drivers for Vista and launch of entire family of R600 on May 14, 2007.

Well, that's not the case and I'm kind of bummed out. I mean, I think companies these days have a tendency to come out with more positive comments and promises when there's trouble and their backs are up against a wall.

By the way, anyone can feel free to congratulate me on my first real successful trade (joke). I've kind of dabbled in stocks on and off and lost money for years. I just bought AMD around $13.50 and sold it around $15.50 That's a pretty cool trade if you ask me. The idea behind the trade is "buy the rumor, sell the news" like in the book "Rule the Freakin' Markets" by Michael Parness. I have no idea what I'm going to do for my next trade. I haven't had the time to look at anything lately.

If I die a poor and frustrated man, at least I know I did one good trade.

Congratulations. Once you build up some substantial funds, never invest 100% of it or you'll be back to square one. Also, read quarter forecasts for blue chip companies and any updates to these, followed by analysts comments. Use this information to buy when things look bad providing the future is more promising. This depends on whether you want long term or short term profits, a lot of info seeking and analysis + understanding past company history performance is vital here. AMD has had a nice 2003-2005 lately but remember the trouble they were in back in 1995-8. There could very well be a similar repeat of this in the near future so don't bet your horses on AMD, unless you're in for quick gains (buy and sell in days, not months). It's usually difficult to earn bigger money on very large companies, there's more movement in the smaller IT companies but they also carry higher risk.

Of course, enjoy your profits and remember to give to the poor or ill

I bought AMD back in 2002 for about $8/share and sold it in the low 30's.

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: Phynaz
What pity did AMD show you when they were selling 3800 X2 for $300?

Good Point. Also how about when in less than three years they went from Socket A to 754 to 940 to 939 to AM2. And then they stop selling good chips for the previous socket.

Where was AMD's compassion and loyalty to their customers who had supported them years after they started selling to Dell. Everyone else who wanted AMD processors had to go to the back of the line when Dell wanted some.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Phynaz
What pity did AMD show you when they were selling 3800 X2 for $300?

hehe, you make it sound like a bad price. Read up on CPU pricing history. X2 3800 at $300ish at launch was quite cheap.

 

[five4o]

Yeah what he said.

 

[Killrose]

It will probably influence my next CPU purchase, but I am going to wait awhile longer to see what Barcelona has to offer before I am ready. My biggest fear is to buy a cheap X2 now with a move to Barcelona in mind and then finding out the Mboard I bought for the X2 does not work with Barcelona because the Mboard maker does not upgrade the Bios to support Barcelona.

Been there with some earlier Palomino MBoards that would not support T-breds. I am still running an OC'd BartonM so my "buy it now" finger is getting pretty itchy.

 

[Pugnate]

Why do you have such a CPU orgy?

 

[Kur]

Originally posted by: GFORCE100

Originally posted by: Kur
I'm still running a X2 3800+, I really don't need anymore. I game, and do school work. Never had a single problem and will keep buying AMD because of all the problems I had with Intel in the past.

Unless I'm trying to encode a HD video I see no reason to really upgrade.

I can't think of what problems these might have been.

You're most probably referring to BIOS problems by MSI, Gigabyte, Asus etc.

No idea, 2 of the intel computers I had just up and died. Might have been bad chips I don't know, I just havn't had any problems with AMD.

 

[Gorrillasnot]

I don't know much about CPU history, but if my thinking is right wasn't AMD's claim to fame comparable or better performance then Intel for usually a lot less money?
The first PC I ever built was an AMD K-6II 300MHz 'cause it was more affordable then Intel. Next was a Slot A 650MHz Athlon, followed by a 800MHz Duron, Athlon 1.2GHz, XP1800+, and finally XP2100+. The reason I chose AMD all those times(not to mention for the dozen or so PCs I built for family and friends) wasn't because of brand loyalty, it was because AMDs price was lower and often the performance was equal or better.

Then AMD comes out with Athlon 64. I drooled over it, but couldn't afford to buy one. I guess AMD decided it needed to ramp prices way up since it had the new king of the hill CPU.
And thats my point AMD raised prices too high for the budget restricted builder to enter their 64bit goodness.
Anyways I skipped AMD 64 all together and went to Intel for the first time.

For any tight budget systems I may build in the future I wouldn't hesitate a bit to use a X2 3600+. Best bang for the buck CPU I can think of. maybe AMD should concentrate on high quality low price CPUs like the X2 3600+ for the budget segment for a while.

 

[Finnkc]

My money doesn't do pity ...

so nor do I.

 

[madoka]

Originally posted by: GFORCE100


Why do you need so many PC's around the house? Whose paying the electricity bill?

1. I got addicted to building boxes to try out new parts. Kind of a hobby for me now. I justify it because I like to toggle between computers with a KVM. I'll have a computer encode video, another burn lightscribe discs, etc. And all the while, keep my main one free to frag without any other processes running in the background.

2. The spouse!

 

[n7]

No.

And any appreciation i had for the underdog AMD is now gone, mainly because of how they f*cked up the whole HD 2900 XT situation.

 

[madoka]

I dunno about you guys, but I'm absolutely terrified of a world without AMD to keep Intel in check. That's why I feel somewhat compelled to support AMD regardless of what maybe the best deal out right now or what they've done in the past.