any1 here oc'ed pc2100 to 200mhz?

bgeh

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no.....it will be nearly impossible to reach that unless you have the winbond bh-5 chips
 

Elcs

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When I get my new board, I'll test my 512mb crucial pc2100 and see what that can do. Not expecting miracles
 

drag

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Actually, probably. If the nforce2 board can handle the 200mhz then you'd just lower the multiplier and play with it like that, I would guessm don't know if you would actually gain much though....
 

ferrarifreak93

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Actually, probably. If the nforce2 board can handle the 200mhz then you'd just lower the multiplier and play with it like that, I would guessm don't know if you would actually gain much though....

actually, NOT probably.
 

CheapTOFU

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no one here oc'ed pc2100 to pc3200?
I heard somewhere (?) that some stores sell pc2100 as pc3200 with heatsinks..
 
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Originally posted by: CheapTOFU
no one here oc'ed pc2100 to pc3200?
I heard somewhere (?) that some stores sell pc2100 as pc3200 with heatsinks..

you sure is isnt pc2700 as pc3200???
 

TerryMathews

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PC2100 to PC3200 would be a 50% overclock. Which is really unheardof when RAM is concerned. If it was really good, high spec PC2100, it might make PC3200 after overvolting at the slowest CAS settings. Which would make it completely not worth your while.
 

drag

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I didn't think he would have it go all the way up to 3200+. I assumed he ment he just wanted to run the bus speed at 200mhz.

alright the 3200+ is realy only 2250mhz
the 2100+ is 1750mhz

To go from the 2100+ spec to a 3200+ is a 28% overclock, not a 50% overclock. With proper cooling you can expect good 2100+ to run at 2600+ spec if not a bit better if you are lucky.

A 2600+ is realy 2080mhz
So that is a 18.8 percent overclock.

Once you unlock the 2100+ you can get control of 5X to 12.5X clock steppings.

So lets say you want to aim for 200mhz bus speed. Your nforce2 can run stable at 200mhz if it a second revision, if it is original "revision" then it MAY run well at 200mhz. We will asume it can.
SO....
You can try
11X 200 which will get you 2200mhz or around 2800-3000+ spec
or
10.5x200 which will get you a 2100mhz or close to a 2700+
or
10x200 which can sack you 2000mhz, close to imbetween 2200+ and 2400+

Of course depending on your hardware you may not even be able to overclock it at all.

But if you want to know if a 2100+ will run a 200mhz bus. Then yes it will, probably.
But if you want to know if a 2100+ will run about 3200+ spec. Then maybe.. If you used advanced cooling technics and careful voltage control, refrigerated water or a super-duper cooling tower and was able to hand select a 2100+ you could probably run it past 3200+ specs if you REALY wanted too. A 28% overclock is not unheard of.

Now would that be cost effective? no.
Will you burn your proccessor and possibly your motherboard out? possibly.
Will it equal the actual performance of a 3200+ proccessor? no
Would I do it? no
Is it possible? sure if you are lucky.
Is it a good idea? no I don't think so. Might as well buy a real 3200+ in another month or so. It would probably be cheaper, considuring of course if your memory is already ddr400 spec, which I doubt...

 

CraigRT

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not going to happen
when you start getting faster up in the speeds some memory will barely overclock past it's rated speed.

PC2100 will O/C but not that high... also depends on brand.. but again, doesn't matter, cause none will go that high.
 

adeno

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I had 2 sticks of crucial pc2100 running at 192 MHz dual channel with my epox nforce2 board (8RDA+).. that is, until I bought some TwinMOS pc3200 to replace it ;) (I run the twinmos at 208 MHz now) :)
 

syberscott

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Drag, you need to read the other posts more carefully man. And according to your math my 2400 Mhz Athlon is like a 3400+? Ya right.
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drag

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no it's not my math that's the trouble it's AMD's rating system.
I am not saying that the 2400+ is as powerful as a 3200+

But they actually do run close to the same clock speed. The only real difference is some tweaking in the design of the cpu and the faster bus speed.
The 2400+ = 2 ghz
The 3200+ = 2.2 ghz
The 2800+ = 2.25 ghz
The 3000+ = 2.18 ghz
(the 3200+ of course is actually a bit more powerful then the 2800+ but not as much as the rating difference seems to indicate)

go figure.

but your right, I thought he was talking about the CPU speed. Of course the 2100+ can with 200mhz bus speed, after it's been unlocked and under-multiply it.

But it's retarded to run overclocked RAM. There is realy no point. Even if it works and doesn't crash all the time you will be slowly corrupting all your programs and information every time you use them. Don't be so cheap, the difference between pc2100 and a low-latency pc2700 is like fifteen bucks.
 

emjem

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I'm running a 512 meg stick of Samsung 2100 at 395 for a couple of months now without corrupting data or crashing problems. 2.5-3-3-6. It'll run over 400 but I have to overvolt my cpu too much to keep it there. I don't know if the Samsung sorter threw the stick in the wrong bin, or what, but it's a great stick.

Why do I overclock it? Because I can, lol.
 

Doh!

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Originally posted by: emjem
I'm running a 512 meg stick of Samsung 2100 at 395 for a couple of months now without corrupting data or crashing problems. 2.5-3-3-6. It'll run over 400 but I have to overvolt my cpu too much to keep it there. I don't know if the Samsung sorter threw the stick in the wrong bin, or what, but it's a great stick.

Why do I overclock it? Because I can, lol.

Yes, Samsung's old DDR does quite well in OC. The recent batch (i.e., PC3200), however, doesn't do so well. My PC2700 actually overclocks higher than PC3200 (both Samsung) with tight timings. That's why some online vendors are selling Samsung PC2700 as PC3200 (stay away from them).
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: drag
ps. yes you may call me a 'tard

i'm so confused by your previous post...

sounded like he was talking about RAM, not overclocking a processor from 2100+ speed to 3200+ speed...

confused...
 

drag

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He was talking about RAM, I got confused because I am a idiot and I've been doing alot of research about getting a new proccessor and I had terms like 3200+ at 200mhz fsb and 2100+ at 166 being a nicely overclockable proccessor.

I was just to much of a moron to notice the PC in front of the 2100 and got confused...