Any WYSIWYG site editors fully support CSS?

[Shawn]

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[screw3d]

Highly doubt it.. it would be awesome if there is one though.

It is a big enough nightmare to make a complex hand-coded CSS page work in all browsers.. a WYSIWYG implementation that goes through all the hacks and what not would not be easy to code!

 

[hopejr]

Such a thing would be a God send for me (it would also be great if Microsoft started using the standards for CSS instead of making up their own - that would help a lot too, and make such a program easier to do).

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: hopejr
Such a thing would be a God send for me (it would also be great if Microsoft started using the standards for CSS instead of making up their own - that would help a lot too, and make such a program easier to do).

Yes, there is a such as a thing as standards, but apparently nobody told that to the IE developement team. For example CSS 1 has been a accepted W3C standard since Dec. 1996 and IE still can't do it right.

Oh, well. It's to bad because you can do cool stuff with it. (resize the window and stuff like that and see how it still looks nice)

The only web page developement tool I know that supports CSS is called bluefish

But it's not WYSIWG, they call it "what you see is what you need". Plus as far as I can tell it's a Linux/Solaris/BSD/OS X-only application, if they have a Windows version I couldn't find it. So it's probably not what your looking for. It's pretty much for advanced users only. (not that your not advanced or anything, but not that it's WYSIWG, it's more of a editor.)

If you want to try it out and you don't have a Mac or a Linux box setup, I suppose you can try out knoppix's "live linux cd" (were the OS runs directly off of the cdrom without needed install.), I THINK that it has bluefish installed on it.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: hopejr
Such a thing would be a God send for me (it would also be great if Microsoft started using the standards for CSS instead of making up their own - that would help a lot too, and make such a program easier to do).

Try using the client-side scripts in this thread to make IE6 more CSS-friendly.

 

[trek]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: hopejr
Such a thing would be a God send for me (it would also be great if Microsoft started using the standards for CSS instead of making up their own - that would help a lot too, and make such a program easier to do).

Try using the server-side scripts in this thread to make IE6 more CSS-friendly.

🙂

 

[hopejr]

Thanks guys, that's great!! Nice page too drag (I viewed it in Safari coz I can't be bothered going to my PC to have a look, but I may later). I got my site working today, realised I was stuffing margins up. I try to work around all the problems in IE as much as possible. Infact, because IE 5 for Mac sucks sooooo much, I put a part in my CF code that didn't include the line to import the style sheet if that was the browser (of course, I checked if Opera was the browser being used so that it didn't get blocked on that). Older v4 browsers can't understand the @import command so don't use the styles anyway (just how I want it). Still flows well without the styles.
BTW, Dreamweaver supports CSS to an extent (as does FrontPage I found out today, but that has the Microsoft model 🙁). I have OS X so I'll try out bluefish.

 

[drag]

Cool.
The one big catch with OS X, I beleive, is that you may need to use X windows to run it. I don't know if they have a aqua version. (I don't have OS X, so I can't realy try it out unfortunately. Damn I want a Ibook now)

But when dealing with open source software and such for OS X people seem to like using Fink. It helps by creating a automated way of installing and maintaining Unix/Linux style software in OS X. That way you can get access to everything that a average Linux user enjoys (as long as the developers of a app made a OS X version, which is fairly common) but still be able to use OS X.

 

[hopejr]

I've got both fink and X11 installed already 🙂

 

[EmperorRob]

Another vote for Bluefish.