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IamDavid

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I'm lost. I know how to host a basic site and stuff but where do I begin when looking to start a E Comerce site? Nothing to fancy, just a basic reseller site.... Any suggestions will help...


Please ignore the spelling errors. :)
 

DeviousTrap

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Well first you would start with a hosting account. You can go ahead and ask Ross as he is giving away free accounts right now.

I'd do the same but I'm too busy :(
 

bmacd

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i don't think anybody honestly needs to vouch for Ross, but he's a great guy. He took the time to get me started, helped me on NUMEROUS occasions when i was in a bind, and offered me plenty of suggestions to help me benefit from what was available. Thanks Ross :)

-=bmacd=-
 

RossMAN

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IamDavid,

Should I change my nickname to IamRoss? :p

It sounds like you already have the first two steps (domain registration and web hosting) completed.

What's left is:

1) Product and/or services to sell.

2) An SSL certificate, you have several choices to choose from. I would highly recommend ordering from Doug with CompleteSSL.com

3) Shopping cart. If your web host offers Fantastico you already have access to two carts for free, CubeCart and osCommerce.

4) You'll need a credit card processor, this has been discussed here.

Here are some examples of eCommerce sites, some of these are run by fellow AT'ers:

If you'd like to discuss eCommerce with others, you should join the HTTPme.COM forums membership is free and you do NOT have to be a web hosting customer to participate in their forums.

Hope this helps, good luck!
 

Jondbold

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I'm willing to pay a pretty peny for a nice shopping cart program can you recommend any ? Most of these don't have many options for shipping. One thing i'd like to be able to do is willcall but none seem to have it either =( Will call isn't as important as getting an easy one up and running for now though .
 

DeviousTrap

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Originally posted by: Jondbold
I'm willing to pay a pretty peny for a nice shopping cart program can you recommend any ? Most of these don't have many options for shipping. One thing i'd like to be able to do is willcall but none seem to have it either =( Will call isn't as important as getting an easy one up and running for now though .

Did you try OsCommerece? Its free and easy to modify.

~Eric
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: Jondbold
I'm willing to pay a pretty peny for a nice shopping cart program can you recommend any ? Most of these don't have many options for shipping. One thing i'd like to be able to do is willcall but none seem to have it either =( Will call isn't as important as getting an easy one up and running for now though .
osCommerce is free and easy to set up. There is also a very large support group for it. I recommend you check out their web site and play around with the demo.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: DeviousTrap
Originally posted by: Jondbold
I'm willing to pay a pretty peny for a nice shopping cart program can you recommend any ? Most of these don't have many options for shipping. One thing i'd like to be able to do is willcall but none seem to have it either =( Will call isn't as important as getting an easy one up and running for now though .

Did you try OsCommerece? Its free and easy to modify.

~Eric

I second the osCommerce recommendation (again)

If you need any shopping cart or PHP/MySQL work done, I can highly recommend Deborah of SpinningFrog.com
 

SunnyD

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I really can't offer much more insight than what has been said here already.

#1 - You need a domain. If you already have one, great. If not, you need to register one. Namecheap and Godaddy come to mind, for both price, service and features.

#2 - You need hosting. If you have your own server, great! Unless you're talking about some cheese machine running on your cable or DSL account which is probably against your provider's TOS. Cheap hosting is easy to come by. As have been said already - RossMAN, DeviousTrap, and many others can help you with this.

You don't need a lot. You certainly don't need your own "server". Shared hosting is just fine. A handful of meg of storage to have your product descriptions and images as well as your item database is all you need. Bandwidth - even 1GB/mo should suffice unless you plan on turning over hundreds-of-thousands of dollars a month. You're talking free to single-digit dollars per month.

You will also need on your hosting package database access and scripting/CGI support. Most common, as mentioned already is PHP and MySQL. You will need this for running any sort of eCommerce site. There are other options, but most use PHP and MySQL. This should come with your hosting package.

#3 - You need to choose an eCommerce package. osCommerce, which has been mentioned numerous times already, is your most likely candidate. osCommerce is easy to use, and a nice templateable front end. You can customize it any way you like.

#4 - If you want people to trust you, an SSL certificate. It basically secures data going between your and ensures to the customer that they aren't actually at a 3rd party scam site. Some servers offer shared SSL certs at a discount rate, otherwise expect to pay a hefty pricetag for your very own cert.

#5 - Payment options. Obviously paypal is in order for online transactions. However, a lot of people don't want to open up an account with paypal in order to take credit cards. In this case, you'll have to research merchant accounts and tools for accepting credit cards. Expect to pay a fee play a percentage of each transaction for this. Again, unless you're going to turn over a lot of money every month, this alone can run a small site into the ground.

Once you've got this ironed out, then you put your site together and advertise. That's another lesson in itself. The above 5 things should be your first concerns.

edit - I should add, one very, VERY important thing to consider is how you are going to set up your supply and shipment chain too. It is very important that if you're a small time site op you collect your orders as frequently as possible, and ensure the orders are filled promptly and accurately. You'll have to manually take care of inventory in most cases, ensuring that your site is up to date on in-stock and out-of-stock items, and stock on hand is accurate as well. No customer will return to you if they continually see that you have something listed as in-stock and place an order only to get an email saying "Sorry, that item is currently out of stock..." While this isn't really eCommerce related, this too is something that should be seriously considered in your first look at setting up.
 

Bleep

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Once you get going just remember, it is a lot cheaper and easier to keep a customer that you already have than to try and get a new one.
This means that sometime you may have to take a loss on a individual order in order to keep a customer happy and returning for more purchases..

Bleep
 

WHipLAsh13

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I have worked with both Miva and OSCommerce. OSCommerce is definately the way to go. With all of the free contributions you can add to your site, this program becomes way more powerful than Miva is with 800 bucks of modules installed. Miva was painful to work with, yet with OSCommerce you can get a site up in no time at no cost other than the those of your host, SSL and your merchant account/payment gateway.
 

sygyzy

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OSCommerce is cool, very configurable. Big con is every ecommerce site looks the same.
 

RossMAN

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Would someone please PM this thread URL to groovin thanks :)

I received your PM but I cannot reply via PM.

CDGCommerce.com is very reputable and offers excellent merchant account services.

Another (more costly) option would be to get a merchant account with your local bank.

If you have any further questions, please PM me your email address and AIM/MSN, and I will contact you directly.
 

Qwest

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i hope you dont mind me jumping on this thread...

my dad is looking to move his website to a new server because the current guy is charging way too much.

the company sells medical software and just needs to be around to inform as well as have some contact forms.
we have a very simple web site with some simple forms and hope to maybe have a slideshow or software demo in the future.

the website now barely takes up 20 megs, if even, but of course, i would like to expand this in the future. i've been reading the forums and know some of you guys have hosting or know a lot about it...

also, a minimum of 5 email addresses would be good. the traffic on the site is not even a consideration....so with all this said..what are your recommendations? thank you in advance.

rossman...i didnt know your pms were full, sorry. hehe.