Any way to remove coating off copper wire?

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IEC

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Acetone would do it...

And :confused: at the copper thieves.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Acetone would do it...

And :confused: at the copper thieves.

Why :confused: at the copper thieves? For them it's real easy money. Copper prices have gone through the roof the past few years. Couple that with it being extremely easy to remove piping and electrical wire from new construction homes. The result is they're making a lot of money for very little work. Junk yards don't care where it comes from.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Acetone would do it...

And :confused: at the copper thieves.

Why :confused: at the copper thieves? For them it's real easy money. Copper prices have gone through the roof the past few years. Couple that with it being extremely easy to remove piping and electrical wire from new construction homes. The result is they're making a lot of money for very little work. Junk yards don't care where it comes from.

How much can they get for something like that? Sounds crazy. Is it just copper or other metals as well?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Acetone would do it...

And :confused: at the copper thieves.

Why :confused: at the copper thieves? For them it's real easy money. Copper prices have gone through the roof the past few years. Couple that with it being extremely easy to remove piping and electrical wire from new construction homes. The result is they're making a lot of money for very little work. Junk yards don't care where it comes from.

How much can they get for something like that? Sounds crazy. Is it just copper or other metals as well?

A lot of money.

In retail prices, you're talking in the thousands of dollars for piping and electrical wire. The retail cost of just the service entrance wire will run you $200+ for a 30ft run.

And they do go for other metals as well, it's just that copper theft is the most prevalent. I think it's about $3/lb of copper. Figure the scrap yards pay them 70% of that price.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Acetone would do it...

And :confused: at the copper thieves.

Why :confused: at the copper thieves? For them it's real easy money. Copper prices have gone through the roof the past few years. Couple that with it being extremely easy to remove piping and electrical wire from new construction homes. The result is they're making a lot of money for very little work. Junk yards don't care where it comes from.

How much can they get for something like that? Sounds crazy. Is it just copper or other metals as well?

http://www.coppertheft.info/?g...p_mFgpMCFSAdagod7gizew
 

Baked

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There's a reason the US Mint doesn't make penny w/ full copper. People just melt them and sell them for real money.
 

Mo0o

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Hmm... can I electrify some copper wire and see if I catch any of them bandits
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Hmm... can I electrify some copper wire and see if I catch any of them bandits

That depends; got a lot of meth heads around you?

EDIT: Saw the location. It'll work better than a bug zapper.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Hmm... can I electrify some copper wire and see if I catch any of them bandits

That depends; got a lot of meth heads around you?

EDIT: Saw the location. It'll work better than a bug zapper.

Hmm... Belelvue is relatively safe. But if I ever end up in north seattle or soemthing, this might be a hilarious solution
 

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On the copper theiving part, yeah they have that problem around here too. I know alot of substations had grounding wire stolen (which isn't just illegal, its dangerous for both the thieves and maintenence people). There is a grid of thick copper all buried in the substations to provide a cood contact to earth ground, and I'm sure in a big substation thats a million bucks in copper probably.
 
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Acetone would do it...

And :confused: at the copper thieves.

Why :confused: at the copper thieves? For them it's real easy money. Copper prices have gone through the roof the past few years. Couple that with it being extremely easy to remove piping and electrical wire from new construction homes. The result is they're making a lot of money for very little work. Junk yards don't care where it comes from.

They're also using cordless power tools to steal catalytic converters from cars at park and ride lots, as well as other places. A guy on another forum I post at had his cut out from under his truck while he was in a mall for forty-five minutes. He tracked it down to the junkyard where the guy sold it off. Proprietor at the yard said someone had just sold forty to him, but the cops won't even bother with the case even though the guy found his among the forty, it being the only Toyota one.
 

Paperdoc

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Originally posted by: rival
what is this new technology that coats wires to make it insulating?

Definitely NOT new technology. Bare copper wire coated with a varnish or enamel has been around for a very long time. As another said, sometimes known as magnet wire, because it is used mainly in multi-turn windings in magnets, coils and motors. Because the coating is thin it adds little to the wire diameter, so you can make high-density windings with it. And in a winding the voltage drop from one strand to an adjacent strand is very small (a small fraction of the voltage across the entire length of wire in the whole winding), so the insulation does not need to be able to stand up to high voltages.

To OP: if you're simply wanting to use it as bare copper wire, go ahead. As others said the coating will scrape off or burn off easily for many applications, and its presence will not impede many normal uses. Its main limit is that it is not well insulated against larger voltages, but then bare copper is completely UN-insulated, so there you go!
 

Scarpozzi

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I think that's the same coating they use on copper wire that's used in electric motors.
 

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
They're also using cordless power tools to steal catalytic converters from cars at park and ride lots, as well as other places. A guy on another forum I post at had his cut out from under his truck while he was in a mall for forty-five minutes. He tracked it down to the junkyard where the guy sold it off. Proprietor at the yard said someone had just sold forty to him, but the cops won't even bother with the case even though the guy found his among the forty, it being the only Toyota one.

Law in NYS: you have to have photo ID now at the scrap yards when you sell your scrap metal. When I go to the county landfill, I practically drool when looking at the scrap metal bin. People are idiots for throwing away a lot of the stuff that they do. I separate all my scrap metal from my garbage and take it to a recycler instead. Last trip, I got about $70 for what was otherwise my garbage.

This weekend, one of the local cities is having a sale of old office furniture, etc. The people who run those sales are morons. I'm hoping I can beat the other scrappers to the sale, fill my grand caravan with crappy looking items that are worth much more for scrap than the morons sell them for, drive from the sale to the scrap yard, and net a few hundred dollars for 30 minutes of my time.
 

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related subject: here in NC it is illegal to throw away aluminum cans... I wish there were places to turn them in for cash, but there are recycle bins everywhere, so I don't get cash for them like I was used to growing up. Oh well.
 

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Right now, aluminum cans are going for about 85 cents per pound. Copper's up over $3 per pound, stainless steel is $1 per pound. There are a lot of people who are making $1000 or more a week by collecting and selling scrap metal.
 

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Ok, I tried burning it but didn't work. I've got a little piece of copper that I can make do with and I'm just going to return this spool.
 

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Right now, aluminum cans are going for about 85 cents per pound. Copper's up over $3 per pound, stainless steel is $1 per pound. There are a lot of people who are making $1000 or more a week by collecting and selling scrap metal.

Aluminum cans here are $2.10/lb. Of course, that includes the 2-1/2 cents per can redemption value, but still...that's pretty good money for cans. The homeless have their "established routes and areas", and there are often fights over those areas. At school, we had a couple of them come right into classrooms to dig in the trash looking for cans...Campus security escorted them off camups.
 

duragezic

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Rip out the plumbing in your house and sell it to Shitty Bill.

"If I must say, I'm making a fucking killing with this scrap here"
 

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Right now, aluminum cans are going for about 85 cents per pound. Copper's up over $3 per pound, stainless steel is $1 per pound. There are a lot of people who are making $1000 or more a week by collecting and selling scrap metal.

Aluminum cans here are $2.10/lb. Of course, that includes the 2-1/2 cents per can redemption value, but still...that's pretty good money for cans. The homeless have their "established routes and areas", and there are often fights over those areas. At school, we had a couple of them come right into classrooms to dig in the trash looking for cans...Campus security escorted them off camups.

That's pretty bold I must say! :Q

 

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Originally posted by: Baked
There's a reason the US Mint doesn't make penny w/ full copper. People just melt them and sell them for real money.

I don't think that's the real reason...
 
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Been a couple of more reported thefts in the local paper. Someone stole a big spool of copper wire from TESCO a month or two ago, and in today's paper someone stole a spool with three thousand feet of copper wire on it from a house somewhere out here in my area.