ANY WAY to host own domain name??

[MontysNotebook]

This is regarding hosting a domain name for a WEBSITE. Not a network domain.

Anybody know of any method, in any way shape or form, to do this? I mean hosting a domain name with no 3rd parties in the middle.

P.S. I'm not really going to do this, but it's to satisfy my curiosity .

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

If you have a fixed IP address, I don't see why not. There is always a necessity for some 3rd party, since you need one of the many domain registars to register the name for you.

 

[Need4Speed]

Originally posted by: gunrunnerjohn
If you have a fixed IP address

not necessary...you can use one of a hundred different dynamic IP clients

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

Yes, that's how I do my hosting. OTOH, he was trying to eliminate 3rd party forwarding.

 

[martind1]

youjust need to get your ip address into a dns server, if you can do this you are all set.

that is all dynamic dns services do. they get yoru ip and put it into their dns server.

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

The big difference is that with a dynamic DNS service, you have to have a client and continually update your DNS address through their site so it can be propagated through the name servers. With a static DNS address, you don't have an active client updating the current DNS address, i.e. the 3rd party I was referring to.

 

[Monolith]

I use www.zoneedit.com for dns services. They have very good help docs on how to set up and host your own domain. Buy a cheap domain from have the DNS servers set to what zoneedit assigns you and put in your IP address. I suppose you could set up your own DNS servers if you have a static IP. Zoneedit also has DynamisDNS services.

 

[mboy]

You guys are now ALL talking about a 3rd part. Dynamic DNS companies are 3rd parties which he was asking if this could bedone without.
The answer is NO.

 

[Garion]

Actually. yes, this can be done. You would need to host your own DNS server in-house. Preferrably two DNS servers, in fact. Once you had built your own DNS servers, you would go to a registrar and register your domain name, listing your two DNS servers. They would forward any requests to your domain to one of those two servers, and you'd be off.

In this case, the registrar is a 3rd party, but they don't actually get very involved with the data flow - They just "insert" your domain name into the Internet root servers and allow other companies to resolve you.

This is how most big companies do it, and it CAN be all done in house, assuming you've got the right infrastructure - You'd need multiple static IP's, several servers, etc.

- G

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: Garion
Actually. yes, this can be done. You would need to host your own DNS server in-house. Preferrably two DNS servers, in fact. Once you had built your own DNS servers, you would go to a registrar and register your domain name, listing your two DNS servers. They would forward any requests to your domain to one of those two servers, and you'd be off.

In this case, the registrar is a 3rd party, but they don't actually get very involved with the data flow - They just "insert" your domain name into the Internet root servers and allow other companies to resolve you.

This is how most big companies do it, and it CAN be all done in house, assuming you've got the right infrastructure - You'd need multiple static IP's, several servers, etc.

- G

Altho you are 1000% right as to how to do it with your own DNS, it still does not negate the fact that you are STILL using a 3rd party, which it appears the original poster is trying to COMPLETELY avoid.

 

[Cleaner]

I think technically there will always be a third party involved. The only way to not have a third party involved is to just have a lan without internet. Then no dns excetera.

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: Cleaner
I think technically there will always be a third party involved. The only way to not have a third party involved is to just have a lan without internet. Then no dns excetera.

That's why the answer to the original posters ?? is NO

 

[xxAgentCowxx]

what if you became your own registrar? its got to be possible, but what does it involve?

 

[Garion]

Unless you design and buid your computer from the silicon up and wind your own Cat5 cables, there's always going to be a 3rd party involved. It's life with a network, get used to it.

I tend to think of the registrars as a core part of the Internet that you happen to pay for - They aren't a service provider in the sense of an ISP or a colo / hosting facility.

I'm not trying to be a smartass or anything (even though I AM!), but there are some services that are so basic, like domain registration, that it's not really a 3rd party, it's just the people who happen to do that. Of course, I go back to the days when it was just the Internic, and there was only ONE registrar, so that might skew my thinking a bit.

I think a better question for the OP might be "How can I register and host a domain with minimal 3rd party involvement?"

- G

 

[martind1]

well i supposes unless you own one of the 13 (is that how many there are?) main dns servers in the world, then somewhere you will have to use a "3rd party".


but noone else in the world seems to be bothered by this. I don't really consider this a 3rd party though, since its just the system.

a 3rd party to me is using software to alert anoter persons dns to update.

but i suppose it is all the same thing.