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Any way to connect My house with my Bro's ???

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BigLance

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His house is almost 1/2 mile away (as far as the phone lines are concerned). We share 2 lines. I tried the 10mb/s Phonline Networks- no luck there, to far away !

Is there anything else I could do ?? Anything, even if its really expensive.. just so I can elarn about it ?

I imagine Fiber would work... how expensive is it ?
 
you share 2 lines?? what do you mean?

i guess you don't want to both get dsl or cable modem and then use a VPN or something to share files
 
Well see, we have two lines on our land (property our home whatever you want to call it) He has acces to both of those lines at his house..

Just wondering about alternate methods over the Phoneline Network, DSL is not an option, were to far away from it 🙁
How far with Coax run ?
 
You have 2 lines than run between the houses that are yours? They dont go to a telco? They are normal copper pairs 1/2 mile? Hmm. You may be able to run your own DSL between them. What is the budget for this?
 
wireless would be your only option AFAIK if the HPA didn't work.....

how far are these houses "as a bird flys" and do they have line of sight to each other...
 
last time i checked the alcatel lightspan remote gateway was ~$250,000...

fiber.... now that would be cheaper then DSL... but still in the tens of thousands of dollars....

you could microwave the data..... but then you'd need huge ass but ulgy tower with all sorts of equipment on it...


i would check to see if you can clean that phoneline up slightly... that might give you the juice the cards need to hear each other...
 
I was thinking of an end to end DSL solution. There is DSL CPE gear that can configured to operate as COE. You would have a DSL COE on one end and DSL CPE on the other. 1/2 mile of copper would be no problem as long as it is decent enough quality. The cost would not be that bad maybe $1000 or so. I helped someone set this up between two buildings (2.3 meg SDSL).

BigLance, if you are interested, LMK and I'll tell you more about it.
 
Well, all DSL needs is a decent pair of copper to run over. If you have a pair between 2 buildings that is not too long (1/2 mile is great!) and is good enough quality, you can run your own DSL end to end. You just need to know what gear to connect to it.
 
Sorry I didn't make this clear before. The 2 lines are just regular phone lines, one only gets 21.6k the newer line gets 52k. But, the lines we put into the ground on this property will allow up to 6 lines, so I cold add more phone lines (ones that would NOT leave the property like the others).

Hekana



<< Why dont you just run a crossover lan cable underground to connect both computers? >>



Please, tell me more about this, it doesn't sound familiar ? Unless your talking about just a plain crossover RJ45 cable ? But I thought those only go like 100M without a repeater ???

Thanks so far guys !
 
Just to clear up a few more things

His house is about 3/8 mile by bird (line of sight is good), and about 1/2 by phoneline.

I can possible put in another machine about half way in between the two houses in my Dad's shop and possible set up a repeater for the PhoneLine system.. I guess this is done with a box with 2 of the phoneline cards... is that true ?
 
You only solution would be multimode fiber. It will give you 1000m. But, the equipment is VERY expensive.
 
The repeater idea might work. Although, I'm not really sure about the maximum cable length for telephone networking. I think you'd do a lot better running CAT5 ethernet cable between the two houses and putting a hub in the workshop. If my math is correct, 3/8 mile is about 700m. CAT5 cable can run for a max of about 500m without significant data loss. If the workshop is about halfway between the two houses, you should be in pretty good shape.
 
I am networked with my brothers house at a distance of 1100 ft, Sandra reports a throughput of 1124.. If you have 6 pairs underground why don't you join cat 5 to 4 of them?
 
Well, I read that the maximum distance for the Phoneline cards I have (NetGear 10mb/s) is 1000ft. Thats not bad... but not quite far enough without some &quot;beefing&quot; of the signal. So how does the repeater work, Do I run 1 line out of on car into the other card and then back out or something ? I'm confused there..

Emory7, thats not a bad idea. May not work but it would be easy to test out...
 
I think the CAT-5 spec is NOT only more wires, but it has more &quot;twists&quot; per distance, so that crossover talk is reduced.
 
Under normal circumstances, Wireless system will not cover 700m. However I came across people who claim that if the Wireless is a Direct View (as oppose to inside home or office building), there are different ways to extend the range. I stumble upon product like this, it is not the answer, but try to give this people a call, may be they have wireless answer to your need.

This: http://www.buffalotech.com/products/antenna/index.cfm

And this:http://www.wavelan.com/products/productdetail.html?id=10
 
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