Any way around blocked POP3 access on my campus?

[randal]

Abide by the Uni's rules or go get your own internet link. It's that simple.

 

[Jeff7]

Geez, strict campus. Maybe they could just disallow file attachments in POP3 e-mails? Sounds like a lazy approach, like what Microsoft initially did to Outlook when it was found that it was being used to send viruses with ease - they simply stopped allowing ANY executable file attachments. Nice security, sure, but it was a pain when sending someone a compressed self-extracting EXE, or a file if they deleted their Show Desktop icon, or something to that effect.
Campus here (Penn State University, Erie campus) - I've got POP3, SMTP, full Internet, etc. All of the campus service websites that require any kind of login use 128-bit encryption. Prety impressive job. But do keep at the admins to get POP3 and SMTP support added. Plenty of people have POP3 e-mail accounts; disallowing it isn't cool.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Geez, strict campus. Maybe they could just disallow file attachments in POP3 e-mails? Sounds like a lazy approach, like what Microsoft initially did to Outlook when it was found that it was being used to send viruses with ease - they simply stopped allowing ANY executable file attachments. Nice security, sure, but it was a pain when sending someone a compressed self-extracting EXE, or a file if they deleted their Show Desktop icon, or something to that effect.
Campus here (Penn State University, Erie campus) - I've got POP3, SMTP, full Internet, etc. All of the campus service websites that require any kind of login use 128-bit encryption. Prety impressive job. But do keep at the admins to get POP3 and SMTP support added. Plenty of people have POP3 e-mail accounts; disallowing it isn't cool.

Behrend, huh? I've got quite a few buddies up there right now as freshman. You might've already met them!

This is exactly what angers me, though. If so many other campuses allow it just fine, W-T-F is my school thinking. They're the only ones around that feel POP3 is unsafe?

 

[archcommus]

However, I shouldn't complain, they gave me $2500 worth of computer equipment.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Geez, strict campus. Maybe they could just disallow file attachments in POP3 e-mails? Sounds like a lazy approach, like what Microsoft initially did to Outlook when it was found that it was being used to send viruses with ease - they simply stopped allowing ANY executable file attachments. Nice security, sure, but it was a pain when sending someone a compressed self-extracting EXE, or a file if they deleted their Show Desktop icon, or something to that effect.
Campus here (Penn State University, Erie campus) - I've got POP3, SMTP, full Internet, etc. All of the campus service websites that require any kind of login use 128-bit encryption. Prety impressive job. But do keep at the admins to get POP3 and SMTP support added. Plenty of people have POP3 e-mail accounts; disallowing it isn't cool.

Behrend, huh? I've got quite a few buddies up there right now as freshman. You might've already met them!

This is exactly what angers me, though. If so many other campuses allow it just fine, W-T-F is my school thinking. They're the only ones around that feel POP3 is unsafe?

Drop out.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Geez, strict campus. Maybe they could just disallow file attachments in POP3 e-mails? Sounds like a lazy approach, like what Microsoft initially did to Outlook when it was found that it was being used to send viruses with ease - they simply stopped allowing ANY executable file attachments. Nice security, sure, but it was a pain when sending someone a compressed self-extracting EXE, or a file if they deleted their Show Desktop icon, or something to that effect.
Campus here (Penn State University, Erie campus) - I've got POP3, SMTP, full Internet, etc. All of the campus service websites that require any kind of login use 128-bit encryption. Prety impressive job. But do keep at the admins to get POP3 and SMTP support added. Plenty of people have POP3 e-mail accounts; disallowing it isn't cool.

Behrend, huh? I've got quite a few buddies up there right now as freshman. You might've already met them!

This is exactly what angers me, though. If so many other campuses allow it just fine, W-T-F is my school thinking. They're the only ones around that feel POP3 is unsafe?

Drop out.

Hmm don't think so....

 

[n0cmonkey]

There were no problems when you checked the school out.
There were no problems when you visitted the school.
There were no problems when you talked to members of the staff and faculty.
There were no problems when you talked to current students.

Why is there a problem now?

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
There were no problems when you checked the school out.
There were no problems when you visitted the school.
There were no problems when you talked to members of the staff and faculty.
There were no problems when you talked to current students.

Why is there a problem now?

What???

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
There were no problems when you checked the school out.
There were no problems when you visitted the school.
There were no problems when you talked to members of the staff and faculty.
There were no problems when you talked to current students.

Why is there a problem now?

What???

You didn't have problems with the policy previously, why the change of heart?

 

[Aves]

Sign up for Yahoo! Mail and set it up to retrieve your mail from the POP3 server. Then you can use YPOPs! to get into your mail client.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: Aves
Sign up for Yahoo! Mail and set it up to retrieve your mail from the POP3 server. Then you can use YPOPs! to get into your mail client.

This sounds intriguing but I have to run for now. Will read later. Thanks for a suggestion!

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
There were no problems when you checked the school out.
There were no problems when you visitted the school.
There were no problems when you talked to members of the staff and faculty.
There were no problems when you talked to current students.

Why is there a problem now?

What???

You didn't have problems with the policy previously, why the change of heart?

I, uh, didn't exactly study the network policies of all of the schools I looked at and considered. Besides, even if I would've known, I wouldn't have let something like POP access deter me from wanting to go to an otherwise awesome school.

 

[yukichigai]

I say you should really consider paying for your own DSL or Cable internet. Universities are getting into this new mode of thinking where they decide that highspeed internet on campus should provide you with nothing but http access. Bulls%$#. 5 years ago they could afford to let everyone game online and run as many f%$#ing fileservers as they wanted, and nobody had a problem with it. Now, suddenly, "it costs too much." Right. Either the Universities are full of crap, or the broadband companies are taking advantage of them. Someone is profiteering here, and the students are bearing the brunt of it.

So... yeah, DSL or Cable.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: yukichigai
I say you should really consider paying for your own DSL or Cable internet. Universities are getting into this new mode of thinking where they decide that highspeed internet on campus should provide you with nothing but http access. Bulls%$#. 5 years ago they could afford to let everyone game online and run as many f%$#ing fileservers as they wanted, and nobody had a problem with it. Now, suddenly, "it costs too much." Right. Either the Universities are full of crap, or the broadband companies are taking advantage of them. Someone is profiteering here, and the students are bearing the brunt of it.

So... yeah, DSL or Cable.

Trust me, I want to, but money is too tight to just go tossing $30/month around for that. Plus I'd need a modem, and I'd probably have to get a full year contract, and end up paying for it when I'm not in school.

And OMG. Now even GMAIL'S WEBSITE isn't working half the time. I have to refresh it like a dozen times to get it to load. In the meantime, it keeps showing me this. What bullsh!t.

 

[Joemonkey]

what pop3 do you need to connect to? If it is your own personal website, get something like Horde that supports IMAP installed and use it instead

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: yukichigai
I say you should really consider paying for your own DSL or Cable internet. Universities are getting into this new mode of thinking where they decide that highspeed internet on campus should provide you with nothing but http access. Bulls%$#. 5 years ago they could afford to let everyone game online and run as many f%$#ing fileservers as they wanted, and nobody had a problem with it. Now, suddenly, "it costs too much." Right. Either the Universities are full of crap, or the broadband companies are taking advantage of them. Someone is profiteering here, and the students are bearing the brunt of it.

So... yeah, DSL or Cable.

5 years ago downloading 5GB in a day was done by the geeks. Today it's done by grandmothers downloading donkey porn. The speeds haven't increased a lot, but the "needs" of the users have.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
5 years ago downloading 5GB in a day was done by the geeks. Today it's done by grandmothers downloading donkey porn. The speeds haven't increased a lot, but the "needs" of the users have.

I don't doubt that, but to what do you attribute this sudden rise of interest in donkey porn?

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: archcommus
Trust me, I want to, but money is too tight to just go tossing $30/month around for that. Plus I'd need a modem, and I'd probably have to get a full year contract, and end up paying for it when I'm not in school.

Under Federal law, if you move you can move your service with you. If the company cannot or will not move the service to your new residence then you are legally entitled to cancel the contract without fear of an early termination fee or anything else. I'm not sure if you're willing to take your Cable/DSL with you, but at the very least if you can't use it you won't have to pay for it.

Also, SBC still has a $14.95/month plan going for Pro DSL. That's cheaper than AOL Dialup. If they offer service in your area you should be able to afford it.

EDIT: Or are you that poor?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
5 years ago downloading 5GB in a day was done by the geeks. Today it's done by grandmothers downloading donkey porn. The speeds haven't increased a lot, but the "needs" of the users have.

I don't doubt that, but to what do you attribute this sudden rise of interest in donkey porn?

Bigger donkeys and Shrek 2.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: yukichigai
I say you should really consider paying for your own DSL or Cable internet. Universities are getting into this new mode of thinking where they decide that highspeed internet on campus should provide you with nothing but http access. Bulls%$#. 5 years ago they could afford to let everyone game online and run as many f%$#ing fileservers as they wanted, and nobody had a problem with it. Now, suddenly, "it costs too much." Right. Either the Universities are full of crap, or the broadband companies are taking advantage of them. Someone is profiteering here, and the students are bearing the brunt of it.

So... yeah, DSL or Cable.

Trust me, I want to, but money is too tight to just go tossing $30/month around for that. Plus I'd need a modem, and I'd probably have to get a full year contract, and end up paying for it when I'm not in school.

And OMG. Now even GMAIL'S WEBSITE isn't working half the time. I have to refresh it like a dozen times to get it to load. In the meantime, it keeps showing me this. What bullsh!t.

Man, I hate to see you in the "real world." You're just not gonna make it.

Not to harp, but hopefully you can get the help and or medication you require.

Unplug dude. There is a whole world of friends and meeting new people and developing a personality out there. Not to metion getting laid.

I mean for fvck's sake. There is this whole world out there for you to discover and it doesn't revolve around a computer.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: yukichigai
I say you should really consider paying for your own DSL or Cable internet. Universities are getting into this new mode of thinking where they decide that highspeed internet on campus should provide you with nothing but http access. Bulls%$#. 5 years ago they could afford to let everyone game online and run as many f%$#ing fileservers as they wanted, and nobody had a problem with it. Now, suddenly, "it costs too much." Right. Either the Universities are full of crap, or the broadband companies are taking advantage of them. Someone is profiteering here, and the students are bearing the brunt of it.

So... yeah, DSL or Cable.

The landscape of free for all internet has drastically changed in the last 5 years, thanks in part to P2P.

Go design a couple college networks, take into account security and total cost of operation then come back and explain your rash accusation.

You know little of what you speak. Very, very, very little. I'm not gonna poke holes in yor post about "broadband" and even utter the words that you wouldn't even grasp.

there is no profiteering here, there is no conspiracy, put down the tinfoil hat and learn some before you utter such bullcrap.

The entire network communications industry shifted about 5 years ago due to network security wise.

Sorry to be so harsh, but you guys are off your rocker here.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: spidey07
The landscape of free for all internet has drastically changed in the last 5 years, thanks in part to P2P.

Go design a couple college networks, take into account security and total cost of operation then come back and explain your rash accusation.

You know little of what you speak. Very, very, very little. I'm not gonna poke holes in yor post about "broadband" and even utter the words that you wouldn't even grasp.

there is no profiteering here, there is no conspiracy, put down the tinfoil hat and learn some before you utter such bullcrap.

The entire network communications industry shifted about 5 years ago due to network security wise.

Sorry to be so harsh, but you guys are off your rocker here.

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[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: spidey07
The landscape of free for all internet has drastically changed in the last 5 years, thanks in part to P2P.

Go design a couple college networks, take into account security and total cost of operation then come back and explain your rash accusation.

You know little of what you speak. Very, very, very little. I'm not gonna poke holes in yor post about "broadband" and even utter the words that you wouldn't even grasp.

there is no profiteering here, there is no conspiracy, put down the tinfoil hat and learn some before you utter such bullcrap.

The entire network communications industry shifted about 5 years ago due to network security wise.

Sorry to be so harsh, but you guys are off your rocker here.

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Don't be stupid. He has a point, and it's a good one.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't be stupid. He has a point, and it's a good one.

I also have a point: you want to make an argument, make an argument. Don't insult me and expect me to actually care what you say.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't be stupid. He has a point, and it's a good one.

I also have a point: you want to make an argument, make an argument. Don't insult me and expect me to actually care what you say.

I think if he wanted to insult you, he would have done much better than that.