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Any Video card experts out there?

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peacelover

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Hi! I am new forum.

Recently i bought a Geforce FX 5200 for my crappy system, the specs are:

- 800mhz AMD duron
- 192 mb ram
- 20 gb HardDrive
- Windows XP Pro

My problem that when ever i play a full version game of any type as soon as i begin to play it, the computer restarts on me, but when i play demos the computer is fine, and it plays quite well. I understand that even some powerful computers can have this problem. I thought may be i could change the memory timing values and then maybe it could work but i am not sure to which values i should change them. What do y'all think?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated
 
That's a strange problem you're having. Not sure if i've ever run into that problem before. I don't see why a full version would crash as opposed to the demo.
 
Full versions usually have more texture layers for visual appeal...Make sure you have enough RAM, and that you run your game on lower quality settings.
 
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
That's a strange problem you're having. Not sure if i've ever run into that problem before. I don't see why a full version would crash as opposed to the demo.
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Indeed

Weird

Is there any windows errors meesage after rebooting ?

 
192 MB of RAM is not enough. If the full version of the game is more demanding in any way, you'd probably notice more hard disk actitity when the system is swapping out memory to your swap file. If your hard drive is over 3/4 full, you could also be running into other problems.

It could also demand more from your power supply. If so, that could cause reboots.
 
alright, thx alot for the suggestions.

I had a radeon 7000 64 mb before and it worked fine with it, but with this card the games seem to be causing a reboot. If it's the power suopply can i do anything to free up more power? As for the ram I heard memory timing in the bios can fix that, Any clue?
 
Originally posted by: peacelover
Any Video card experts out there?
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No, but that's never stopped us. 😉

Is anything overclocked? Have you tried reinstalling the latest version of DirectX? Have you tried temporarily disabling any unnecessary processes (Picasa, anti-virus, Messenger, etc.)? Have you tried running Memtest to rule out faulty memory?

Nomally, I'd also ask for your power supply's rated wattage, but your components don't look like they draw much power at all.

Sounds like an odd problem. You can play game demos fine, but not their full versions? Have you tried both a demo and a full version of the same game, or only different games and demos?
 
I second the power supply may be the biggest probability here. If you have any software or direct x problem the most likely case would be you can neither run the demo or the full version. You may have an mATX power supply or an intermittently dead one. The quick thing to do is to install a monitoring software for your particular motherboard, and see how it goes.

However, power problem are usually "analog", meaning that they don't fail at exact same time/location and you may not see it every time. If you see this problem every time at the exact same point (game start), it may be something more "digital" than that (i.e. burnt logic). The same goes for thermo problems.

Have you tried other games and/or other card to see if it works? Tried reinstalling windows to clean out craps?
 
Yes actually the game where this happens, among others, is Need for speed Underground. Just when the main screen is about to load up the system reboots and after it tells me that windows recovered from a serious error. And like i said before this problem did not occur with my radeon 7000 (64mb) that i had previously. I 'll try memtest and reinstalling widows again to see if it'll fix the problem.

thx for the suggestions
 
it might be cause by your new Nvidia drivers having conflicts with your old ATi driver that you did not yet removed. You can try using a program call driver cleaner to clear all your old ATI files. and then reinstall your nvidia one.

It might be your Nivida drivers too, so you can try removing and installing another set.

It can also be your power supply, it might be too weak, dying, etc.

It can also be your motherboard as some old motherboard have problems with certain videocards,, you can try getting a update chipset driver for your mobo. try turning on "fastwrite" in bios

It can also be your new nvidia videocard, it could be defective.




With all the said,, it' about time for you to think about getting another newer system ASAP. Your current system will be ok for normal,,typing, surfing the net, email, and other simple basic stuff, but when it comes to gaming, it'll give you problems one after another,, your problems are only starting and will get worse and worse as you try any new game.
 
Does your system crash in the same place? after the same amount of time? Maybe it is heat related?
Punkbuster related? Could be a number of things involved in game play... like LAN possibly.

Jeff
 
Memory requirements for Windows XP Pro are at least 128 meg of ram.
Memory requirements for Need For Speed Underground are at least 128 meg of ram.

With 192 meg of ram, you are leaving little room for application data.

The amount of ram you have is not enough for a gamer using Windows XP.

I wouldn't be surprised if you have severe hard drive thrashing, due to page file swapping.

Now, if you are speaking of Need For Speed Underground 2, it's memory requirements are 256 meg of ram (when running on Windows XP). This would definetly cause you to have serious hard drive thrashing. You might even have crashes and reboots could potentially happen.

Although, the power supply is also a possibility due to the FX5200 probably having greater power requirements over your older Radeon 7000.

By the way, when you had the Radeon 7000, did you have a different operating system? Windows 98 perhaps? That's the only way I could see you not having problems before and having problems now. Upgrading your operating system on hardware that isn't up to the task will do that to you.

Gentle
 
thx for the help guys. I guess the best thing to do is to upgrade the system. The problem could be anywhere and I am not willing to waist tons of time fiixing only to find that it cannot be fixed.

 
Originally posted by: peacelover
thx for the help guys. I guess the best thing to do is to upgrade the system. The problem could be anywhere and I am not willing to waist tons of time fiixing only to find that it cannot be fixed.
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I like a good engineering decision. Wasted effort for questionable, marginal returns isn't worth it. 🙂

 
By the way, when you had the Radeon 7000, did you have a different operating system? Windows 98 perhaps? That's the only way I could see you not having problems before and having problems now. Upgrading your operating system on hardware that isn't up to the task will do that to you.
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I had the same operating system, XP pro.
 
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