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Legend

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Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Go to your local vitamine shoppe (try to stay away from GNC) and buy a bottle of ZMA, it is usually used to a supplement to boost testosterone, but it also can make you sleep very well. Also maybe some Melatonin to go along with it. If you read about ZMA and magnesium deficiencies (do a quick google search) you can find lots of info of what might be causing your problem and how ZMA or other supplements for sleep can help.

What is ZMA?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMA_%28supplement%29
 

WildHorse

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It's not what yopu take, it's how you live.

a) Take a "fresh air" break every hour or so. If you can, go outside & do deep breathing for a couple of minutes.

b) Heart alone isn't really sufficient to power body's circulation. Flexing of all muscles, especially in legs, helps promiote circulation. So invent a reason to walk around a lirttle bit every once in a while. Like on your way outdoors to breath fresh air.

c) Find some physically demanding exercise you like, & do it regularly. Jog? Shoot hoops? Surf? Dance? Regularity is the key. Totally jacks up your overall vitality.

Cut down sugar intake, the hypoglycemic lows can really wipe you out.

Vibrant life !!!
 

dighn

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ugh I have the same problem. often by the end of the day it's like I'm completely out of energy. I get this headache-ish numbness in my head and thinking becomes a huge effort; when I get home I just sit there for 10 minutes without even blinking until I begin to recover. Maybe I need to eat more and get some exercise.
 

yhelothar

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Do you get drowsy after you eat? Most of my daytime fatigueness is associated with food comas
 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: newParadigm
Vitamin Water -Energy formula (with guarana)

Wow. You do realize that's caffeine right? Which is what he wants to stay away from.

Didn't read far enough into the OP...
 

cker

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Second on the exercise. I've always had trouble with sleep, but when I am on an exercise regimen I sleep better. 3 times a week and I sleep like a baby -- doesn't matter if it's weights or cardio to me. The other best thing I ever did was to get up at the same time every day, no matter what. Then I go to bed when I'm tired -- even if I'm almost to the end of the show/level/chapter/et c.

If you want to avoid lots of caffeine, perhaps tea would work? It has much less caffeine. Taking a break every so often to walk around the building, go get the mail, or anything to get your blood moving and give you some stimulation. Perhaps quiet music with an upbeat tempo?

Melatonin was good to me, but if you are on any neurotransmitter-affecting drug or have a seizure disorder you might want to check with your doctor. A friend of mine got benefits from St. John's Wort but the photosensitivity was pretty rough on him. I always have the sleepies when I eat a fatty or meat-heavy lunch. During my crunch times I eat lots of salads, slaws, and that sort of thing.

 

lyssword

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The only time I have a small headache or am tired is when I sleep under 8hrs. I sleep for 9-10 hrs normally and I never feel tired during the day.
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I am willing to bet your iron and magnesium deficient...do you toss and turn at night or ever have slight pains in your knees?


Also you need at least 8 hours, not 6.

I do toss and turn A LOT during the night before i go to sleep... so i should get some iron/magnesium supplements?

Go to your local vitamine shoppe (try to stay away from GNC) and buy a bottle of ZMA, it is usually used to a supplement to boost testosterone, but it also can make you sleep very well. Also maybe some Melatonin to go along with it. If you read about ZMA and magnesium deficiencies (do a quick google search) you can find lots of info of what might be causing your problem and how ZMA or other supplements for sleep can help.

I am going to have to second and third that. Melatonin will knock you out in 2 hours, and is absolutely harmless- it's the same chemical that your brain produces to cause you to fall asleep naturally. And ZMA, which is very popular among athletes, will help with magnesium deficiency, which almost EVERYONE in America has, and can certainly give you bad nights of sleep. I'd also suggest stretching in the morning; you may not be inclined to, but there are so many benefits from stretching that I can't list them here. If all else fails, I used herbal energy pills when I had to do third shifts, and they worked wonders.

:confused:

When can magnesium deficiency occur?
Even though dietary surveys suggest that many Americans do not consume recommended amounts of magnesium, symptoms of magnesium deficiency are rarely seen in the US.


...Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and weakness. As magnesium deficiency worsens, numbness, tingling, muscle contractions and cramps, seizures, personality changes, abnormal heart rhythms, and coronary spasms can occur [1,3-4]. Severe magnesium deficiency can result in low levels of calcium in the blood (hypocalcemia). Magnesium deficiency is also associated with low levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia) [1,19-20].

From some NIH website.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I am willing to bet your iron and magnesium deficient...do you toss and turn at night or ever have slight pains in your knees?


Also you need at least 8 hours, not 6.

I do toss and turn A LOT during the night before i go to sleep... so i should get some iron/magnesium supplements?

Go to your local vitamine shoppe (try to stay away from GNC) and buy a bottle of ZMA, it is usually used to a supplement to boost testosterone, but it also can make you sleep very well. Also maybe some Melatonin to go along with it. If you read about ZMA and magnesium deficiencies (do a quick google search) you can find lots of info of what might be causing your problem and how ZMA or other supplements for sleep can help.

I am going to have to second and third that. Melatonin will knock you out in 2 hours, and is absolutely harmless- it's the same chemical that your brain produces to cause you to fall asleep naturally. And ZMA, which is very popular among athletes, will help with magnesium deficiency, which almost EVERYONE in America has, and can certainly give you bad nights of sleep. I'd also suggest stretching in the morning; you may not be inclined to, but there are so many benefits from stretching that I can't list them here. If all else fails, I used herbal energy pills when I had to do third shifts, and they worked wonders.

:confused:

When can magnesium deficiency occur?
Even though dietary surveys suggest that many Americans do not consume recommended amounts of magnesium, symptoms of magnesium deficiency are rarely seen in the US.


...Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and weakness. As magnesium deficiency worsens, numbness, tingling, muscle contractions and cramps, seizures, personality changes, abnormal heart rhythms, and coronary spasms can occur [1,3-4]. Severe magnesium deficiency can result in low levels of calcium in the blood (hypocalcemia). Magnesium deficiency is also associated with low levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia) [1,19-20].

From some NIH website.

Yes those are the extreme side effects. Most are extremely deficient in B12 also, but no one gets noticable side effects, until you get an injection of it and have amazing energy for a week because for the first time your body has the b12 it needs, until it depletes it again. It's the same thing.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I am willing to bet your iron and magnesium deficient...do you toss and turn at night or ever have slight pains in your knees?


Also you need at least 8 hours, not 6.

I do toss and turn A LOT during the night before i go to sleep... so i should get some iron/magnesium supplements?

Go to your local vitamine shoppe (try to stay away from GNC) and buy a bottle of ZMA, it is usually used to a supplement to boost testosterone, but it also can make you sleep very well. Also maybe some Melatonin to go along with it. If you read about ZMA and magnesium deficiencies (do a quick google search) you can find lots of info of what might be causing your problem and how ZMA or other supplements for sleep can help.

I am going to have to second and third that. Melatonin will knock you out in 2 hours, and is absolutely harmless- it's the same chemical that your brain produces to cause you to fall asleep naturally. And ZMA, which is very popular among athletes, will help with magnesium deficiency, which almost EVERYONE in America has, and can certainly give you bad nights of sleep. I'd also suggest stretching in the morning; you may not be inclined to, but there are so many benefits from stretching that I can't list them here. If all else fails, I used herbal energy pills when I had to do third shifts, and they worked wonders.

:confused:

When can magnesium deficiency occur?
Even though dietary surveys suggest that many Americans do not consume recommended amounts of magnesium, symptoms of magnesium deficiency are rarely seen in the US.


...Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and weakness. As magnesium deficiency worsens, numbness, tingling, muscle contractions and cramps, seizures, personality changes, abnormal heart rhythms, and coronary spasms can occur [1,3-4]. Severe magnesium deficiency can result in low levels of calcium in the blood (hypocalcemia). Magnesium deficiency is also associated with low levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia) [1,19-20].

From some NIH website.

Yes those are the extreme side effects. Most are extremely deficient in B12 also, but no one gets noticable side effects, until you get an injection of it and have amazing energy for a week because for the first time your body has the b12 it needs, until it depletes it again. It's the same thing.

Where the heck do you guys get this info from? Health company advertisements?
 

badmouse

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Where the heck do you guys get this info from? Health company advertisements?
That's where my MD gets his info from. :disgust:

 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: newParadigm
Vitamin Water -Energy formula (with guarana)

Wow. You do realize that's caffeine right? Which is what he wants to stay away from.

wow. you do realize he asked how to stay awake at work right? so caffeine would help with that.
 

lokiju

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I take a multivitamin every day with my breakfast and that really does seem to help.

Centrum Performance to be exact.
 

Canun

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
exercise. an hour of fasted-state cardio first thing in the morning and weights 2-3 times a week at night.

Definitely best, you might feel physically tired, but mentally you should be ready to go.
 

jhayx7

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My solution is water....lots of it.. I have a Nalgene water bottle on my desk and fill it up every morning and try my best to drink the entire thing throughout the day. "Experts" say that this will combat fatigue but I think the fact you have to get up and pee every 45 minutes is what keeps you awake.
 

SVT Cobra

Lifer
Mar 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I am willing to bet your iron and magnesium deficient...do you toss and turn at night or ever have slight pains in your knees?


Also you need at least 8 hours, not 6.

I do toss and turn A LOT during the night before i go to sleep... so i should get some iron/magnesium supplements?

Go to your local vitamine shoppe (try to stay away from GNC) and buy a bottle of ZMA, it is usually used to a supplement to boost testosterone, but it also can make you sleep very well. Also maybe some Melatonin to go along with it. If you read about ZMA and magnesium deficiencies (do a quick google search) you can find lots of info of what might be causing your problem and how ZMA or other supplements for sleep can help.

I am going to have to second and third that. Melatonin will knock you out in 2 hours, and is absolutely harmless- it's the same chemical that your brain produces to cause you to fall asleep naturally. And ZMA, which is very popular among athletes, will help with magnesium deficiency, which almost EVERYONE in America has, and can certainly give you bad nights of sleep. I'd also suggest stretching in the morning; you may not be inclined to, but there are so many benefits from stretching that I can't list them here. If all else fails, I used herbal energy pills when I had to do third shifts, and they worked wonders.

:confused:

When can magnesium deficiency occur?
Even though dietary surveys suggest that many Americans do not consume recommended amounts of magnesium, symptoms of magnesium deficiency are rarely seen in the US.


...Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and weakness. As magnesium deficiency worsens, numbness, tingling, muscle contractions and cramps, seizures, personality changes, abnormal heart rhythms, and coronary spasms can occur [1,3-4]. Severe magnesium deficiency can result in low levels of calcium in the blood (hypocalcemia). Magnesium deficiency is also associated with low levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia) [1,19-20].

From some NIH website.

Yes those are the extreme side effects. Most are extremely deficient in B12 also, but no one gets noticable side effects, until you get an injection of it and have amazing energy for a week because for the first time your body has the b12 it needs, until it depletes it again. It's the same thing.

Where the heck do you guys get this info from? Health company advertisements?

No I am speaking from experience, I inject B12 at least one a month, before a competition usually.
 

SVT Cobra

Lifer
Mar 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: newParadigm
Vitamin Water -Energy formula (with guarana)

Wow. You do realize that's caffeine right? Which is what he wants to stay away from.

wow. you do realize he asked how to stay awake at work right? so caffeine would help with that.

First he said he wanted alternatives to caffeine. :disgust:

Second caffeine would just mask the problem and make it worse.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I am willing to bet your iron and magnesium deficient...do you toss and turn at night or ever have slight pains in your knees?


Also you need at least 8 hours, not 6.

I do toss and turn A LOT during the night before i go to sleep... so i should get some iron/magnesium supplements?

Go to your local vitamine shoppe (try to stay away from GNC) and buy a bottle of ZMA, it is usually used to a supplement to boost testosterone, but it also can make you sleep very well. Also maybe some Melatonin to go along with it. If you read about ZMA and magnesium deficiencies (do a quick google search) you can find lots of info of what might be causing your problem and how ZMA or other supplements for sleep can help.

I am going to have to second and third that. Melatonin will knock you out in 2 hours, and is absolutely harmless- it's the same chemical that your brain produces to cause you to fall asleep naturally. And ZMA, which is very popular among athletes, will help with magnesium deficiency, which almost EVERYONE in America has, and can certainly give you bad nights of sleep. I'd also suggest stretching in the morning; you may not be inclined to, but there are so many benefits from stretching that I can't list them here. If all else fails, I used herbal energy pills when I had to do third shifts, and they worked wonders.

:confused:

When can magnesium deficiency occur?
Even though dietary surveys suggest that many Americans do not consume recommended amounts of magnesium, symptoms of magnesium deficiency are rarely seen in the US.


...Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and weakness. As magnesium deficiency worsens, numbness, tingling, muscle contractions and cramps, seizures, personality changes, abnormal heart rhythms, and coronary spasms can occur [1,3-4]. Severe magnesium deficiency can result in low levels of calcium in the blood (hypocalcemia). Magnesium deficiency is also associated with low levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia) [1,19-20].

From some NIH website.

Yes those are the extreme side effects. Most are extremely deficient in B12 also, but no one gets noticable side effects, until you get an injection of it and have amazing energy for a week because for the first time your body has the b12 it needs, until it depletes it again. It's the same thing.

Where the heck do you guys get this info from? Health company advertisements?

No I am speaking from experience, I inject B12 at least one a month, before a competition usually. Yes I know what I am talking about.
Where do you get injectable b12?

You know you can get sublingual tablets if you're worried about bio-availability.
I.V. sounds real extreme.
 

SVT Cobra

Lifer
Mar 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I am willing to bet your iron and magnesium deficient...do you toss and turn at night or ever have slight pains in your knees?


Also you need at least 8 hours, not 6.

I do toss and turn A LOT during the night before i go to sleep... so i should get some iron/magnesium supplements?

Go to your local vitamine shoppe (try to stay away from GNC) and buy a bottle of ZMA, it is usually used to a supplement to boost testosterone, but it also can make you sleep very well. Also maybe some Melatonin to go along with it. If you read about ZMA and magnesium deficiencies (do a quick google search) you can find lots of info of what might be causing your problem and how ZMA or other supplements for sleep can help.

I am going to have to second and third that. Melatonin will knock you out in 2 hours, and is absolutely harmless- it's the same chemical that your brain produces to cause you to fall asleep naturally. And ZMA, which is very popular among athletes, will help with magnesium deficiency, which almost EVERYONE in America has, and can certainly give you bad nights of sleep. I'd also suggest stretching in the morning; you may not be inclined to, but there are so many benefits from stretching that I can't list them here. If all else fails, I used herbal energy pills when I had to do third shifts, and they worked wonders.

:confused:

When can magnesium deficiency occur?
Even though dietary surveys suggest that many Americans do not consume recommended amounts of magnesium, symptoms of magnesium deficiency are rarely seen in the US.


...Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and weakness. As magnesium deficiency worsens, numbness, tingling, muscle contractions and cramps, seizures, personality changes, abnormal heart rhythms, and coronary spasms can occur [1,3-4]. Severe magnesium deficiency can result in low levels of calcium in the blood (hypocalcemia). Magnesium deficiency is also associated with low levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia) [1,19-20].

From some NIH website.

Yes those are the extreme side effects. Most are extremely deficient in B12 also, but no one gets noticable side effects, until you get an injection of it and have amazing energy for a week because for the first time your body has the b12 it needs, until it depletes it again. It's the same thing.

Where the heck do you guys get this info from? Health company advertisements?

No I am speaking from experience, I inject B12 at least one a month, before a competition usually. Yes I know what I am talking about.
Where do you get injectable b12?

You know you can get sublingual tablets if you're worried about bio-availability.
I.V. sounds real extreme.

You can get it plenty of places online, and needles aren't hard at all.

And, any b vitamin taken orrarlly will barely be absorbed when digested because of an enzyme that breaks it down in the stomach, that's why I inject, because a very very small percentage of B is actually able to be used, so pretty much all oral B complexes are uselesss.
 

Jack Ryan

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How about going home and taking a nap during lunch? Or go out to your car if that isn't possible?
 

tweakmm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
And, any b vitamin taken orrarlly will barely be absorbed when digested because of an enzyme that breaks it down in the stomach, that's why I inject, because a very very small percentage of B is actually able to be used, so pretty much all oral B complexes are uselesss.
I am well aware of the oral bio-availability problem of b12.
Sublingual is not the same as oral, there is a large mucous membrane underneath the tongue which sublingual administration takes advantage of. In a matter of minutes whatever was under the tongue is coursing through one's veins bypassing the stomach completely.
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: F22 RaptorAnd, any b vitamin taken orrarlly will barely be absorbed when digested because of an enzyme that breaks it down in the stomach, that's why I inject, because a very very small percentage of B is actually able to be used, so pretty much all oral B complexes are uselesss.

I'm not sure what your motivations are (you mentioned a competition of some sort, maybe to you it matters), but if I need to start taking monthly injections of a "necessary" vitamin, than it isn't really necessary. Humans didn't evolve over 500,000 years with the understanding that someday, needles would be readily available.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: F22 RaptorAnd, any b vitamin taken orrarlly will barely be absorbed when digested because of an enzyme that breaks it down in the stomach, that's why I inject, because a very very small percentage of B is actually able to be used, so pretty much all oral B complexes are uselesss.

I'm not sure what your motivations are (you mentioned a competition of some sort, maybe to you it matters), but if I need to start taking monthly injections of a "necessary" vitamin, than it isn't really necessary. Humans didn't evolve over 500,000 years with the understanding that someday, needles would be readily available.

No they didn't. I said one can be deficient (most are), and most will feel positive effects from supplementing in what they are deficient in.

I am a pro powerlifter so that's why I inject the B12, but I never said everyone else needs to, I was using it as an example of something that you may not think can benefit you.