Any thoughts

[todpod]

I had Ubuntu 9.10 loaded went to upgrade upgrade seemed to install fine, but when it booted it booted to the command prompt. After I discovered my burner was junk and waiting for newegg to sent me a new one, I downloaded a fresh copy and burnrd the disk, installed on a fresh hard drive same thing. Then I just tried booting from the livecd same thing command prompt.

Went back and installed 9.10 up and running no problem, the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 was flawless. Any thoughts on the cause.. Asus MB with VIA chipset (I think), AMD 2400 cpu, 2 gigs of ram ATI video card X1650 or along that lines

 

[lxskllr]

Random errors from your CDROM? You could try a USB bootable install and see if that works better. Maybe a driver issue with gfx, but I'd expect a newer version of Ubuntu to be as good as old. I couldn't follow your chain of events too well. Is this right?...

9.10- worked well, upgrade to 10.04 failed
CD drive??
tried installing 10.04 again? Failure
Installed 9.10 success
??
??

 

[todpod]

9.10 worked well
10.4 upgrade (though update manager) failed
Couldn't burn a bootable disc got new drive
Tried installing from cd on fresh disk failed again
booted live cd, cd boot failed
reinstalled 9.10 sucess
Would like to upgrade but a little scared now

 

[lxskllr]

Well, you know 9.10 works, and it's brand new now, so you can do some playing. I'd try the USB install first. If that fails, try the USB install with alternate media and see if that works any better.

When I upgraded from 9.10, my system was screwed up. It worked; barely... My cpu was constantly pegged, and I had a bad memory leak, so my hd was getting hammered. That's on top of a bunch of nitpicky broken functionality. A clean install, and it's working very well now.

 

[Mem]

9.10 worked well
10.4 upgrade (though update manager) failed
Couldn't burn a bootable disc got new drive
Tried installing from cd on fresh disk failed again
booted live cd, cd boot failed
reinstalled 9.10 sucess
Would like to upgrade but a little scared now

I had failed upgrade(from 9.10 to 10.04) through update manager,problem was quite common if you check their forums , Open Office has to be removed via Synaptic Manager first ,then it let me do the upgrade with no problems.
Example below.

April 23, 2010 at 2:03 pm
I used the update-manager -d command to upgrade to the beta version. In the terminal window it said:
WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
It then proceeded to go through the update process. I was presented with a list of items that would be removed an installed. Next it proceeded to continue the upgrade process. I was then presented with a list of software packages that would not longer be supported by Canonical Ltd. It then continued with the process. Then this popped up:
Error during commit
‘E:Couldn’t configure pre-depend openoffice.org-core for openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, probably a dependency problem’ Restoring original system state
How can I upgrade? Thank you

admin says:
April 23, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Remove openoffice.org-filter-binfilter package using the following command
sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-filter-binfilter
After removing above package try to upgrade it should work

NewToUbuntu says:
April 23, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Thank you. The upgrade worked beautifully. I appreciate your assistance.

 

[MrColin]

Do you get an actual shell when booting the 10.04 install or just a black screen with blinking cursor?

If you get an actual shell, login and run "startx" and see what happens. Also check the logs or ctrl+alt+f8 for any hints. If you can't boot the livecd you could try the usb disk method or netinstall. It might be simplest to reinstall 9.10 and run the upgrade and fix it if you get a shell. Also, use the alternate cd vs. the desktop one if possible.

I've started putting together a multidistro PXE server after one of my laptops decided it hates all of the 10.04 install disks. The PXE boot is going to be my preferred method from now on. If you have two computers and a router its not too hard but it takes a while to set up.

 

[todpod]

I actually log in but i am at the command promt, will try the startx command from the live cd and see wat happens

 

[todpod]

Booted the live cd to the command prompt, typed startx and and it told xserver was not available.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

What motherboard/hardware? It's possible Ubuntu (or latest kernel) has dropped support for some of your hardware. You may need a custom or older kernel to get it working.

I missed the info in the first post, but I would suspect the ATI X1650 isn't supported.

 

[todpod]

now we have something, downloaded kubuntu same thing, pulled the ati video card and using the on board unichrome graphics and it booted the live cd. Doing a upgrade now the only bad thing is that i have a 800x600 resolution on a 24" wide screen monitor with no options to change it. Once the upgrade is successful then will work on that

 

[todpod]

Thanks for helping getting me this far. Now video I am running 800x600 on a monitor capable of 1900x1200

I can't find the xorg.conf file /etc/x11 directory to try and edit it. Any thoughts

My monitor is this http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16824611001 and running unichrome graphics yeah.

Thanks

 

[MrColin]

Thanks for helping getting me this far. Now video I am running 800x600 on a monitor capable of 1900x1200

I can't find the xorg.conf file /etc/x11 directory to try and edit it. Any thoughts

My monitor is this http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16824611001 and running unichrome graphics yeah.

Thanks

This guide has served me well in the past with ATI on linux:
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide


If you choose to stick with the opensource driver, or for future reference, the command "sudo X -configure" will write a generic xorg.conf for you which you can then edit to suit your needs.

 

[todpod]

It won't boot into xwindows or allow me to start x with the Ati card, got a little better resolution for the unichrome but still not good. Might have to just break down and by a new video card Newegg has a couple Nvidia cards for about $30, any better suggestions?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

It won't boot into xwindows or allow me to start x with the Ati card, got a little better resolution for the unichrome but still not good. Might have to just break down and by a new video card Newegg has a couple Nvidia cards for about $30, any better suggestions?

I've wanted to try ATI for years, but they keep giving me reasons to stay away. UPS is delivering my new GT 250 tomorrow.

 

[lxskllr]

I've wanted to try ATI for years, but they keep giving me reasons to stay away. UPS is delivering my new GT 250 tomorrow.

I've been against ATI since I bought one of their TV tuner cards forever ago. Every time I think I may want to consider them, something comes up and reminds me why I prefer Nvidia. At this point I don't see me ever using anything other than Intel and Nvidia. They'd have to screw things up pretty well to get me to switch.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I've been against ATI since I bought one of their TV tuner cards forever ago. Every time I think I may want to consider them, something comes up and reminds me why I prefer Nvidia. At this point I don't see me ever using anything other than Intel and Nvidia. They'd have to screw things up pretty well to get me to switch.

Though I've never had an ATI card, I've read too many horror stories (especially wrt linux) to take a chance. They keep making strides, but it's always two steps forward and one step back, while Nvidia is just a constant one step forward at a time.

Sad thing is that my current mobo is crossfire capable, but it'll never see a crossfire config. :\

 

[MrColin]

Nvidia is really miles ahead of ATI on linux. The more recent 8xxx and later cards support vdpau which helps offload video rendering to the gpu when using compatible players (just mplayer AFAIK).

When I started using ubuntu in 2007 I had a radeon 9800 pro card and it would take me days to just get the damn thing working. It takes only 30 seconds to get nvidia cards working, and working pretty damn well.

 

[todpod]

I was thinking this for a video card upgrade
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121360

So what do you think?

 

[lxskllr]

Looks like a good card, especially for $23. It's hard to go wrong at that price :^)

 

[Uppsala9496]

Seems like a good card for the price.

 

[accguy9009]

I am running 10.04 in wubi using a Saphire HD 3650 with 512 MB of DDR3. After installing Ubuntu and the hardware drivers utility I was asked if I wanted to install the proprietary ATI drivers. I did so and I am sporting the 1680 X 1050 gudness on my 22" TN panel in all its glory. Now I have no idea exactly what driver I installed but it is working fine. I didn't want noobs, like me, to think you couldn't easily run this OS with an ATI card. That 1650 Radeon card is a bit long in the tooth but I do wish it was better supported.

Now if I could just figure some way to get my Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1600 NTSC/ATSC/QAM Combo tv card to work on 10.04 I would be a happy guy.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I am running 10.04 in wubi using a Saphire HD 3650 with 512 MB of DDR3. After installing Ubuntu and the hardware drivers utility I was asked if I wanted to install the proprietary ATI drivers. I did so and I am sporting the 1680 X 1050 gudness on my 22" TN panel in all its glory. Now I have no idea exactly what driver I installed but it is working fine. I didn't want noobs, like me, to think you couldn't easily run this OS with an ATI card. That 1650 Radeon card is a bit long in the tooth but I do wish it was better supported.

The problem with ATI is that they drop support (Windows and Linux) for their cards much sooner than Nvidia. I have a Geforce 6800 (released in 2004) that still works fine (2D and 3D), yet the X1650 (released in 2006) doesn't. :thumbsdown:

Also, I swapped the GTS 250 in today (replacing a 9600GT) and everything works flawlessly. Didn't even touch the drivers or X config.

 

[sourceninja]

With a sufficiently supported hardware you won't even need a xorg.conf file on 10.04

 

[lxskllr]

The problem with ATI is that they drop support (Windows and Linux) for their cards much sooner than Nvidia. I have a Geforce 6800 (released in 2004) that still works fine (2D and 3D), yet the X1650 (released in 2006) doesn't. :thumbsdown:

I'm using a TI4200, and it works flawlessly in 10.04. That's one of the best computer related purchases I ever made. It got me through the FX era without holding me back, and I then bought a 6800, which is also still running in another machine.

 

[VinDSL]

With a sufficiently supported hardware you won't even need a xorg.conf file on 10.04

For the most part, I agree with you, but...

I use a KVM switch, and... if I boot Ubuntu without switching to the monitor, Ubu detects the buffer in the KVM switch, and boots in 640x480. LoL!

Making a proper xorg.conf file took care of this situation...