Any s754 A64 Venice users?

[BlueWeasel]

I know s754 is reaching near its EOL, but I plan on sticking with it a little longer since I don't game much anymore. I've got a good overclocking board (DFI NF3 250GB) that hits 320-325HTT, and I'm wanting to pair it with an A64 Venice that gives me the best OC at a reasonable voltage

Venice 3000+ s754 - 10x multiplier
Venice 3200+ s754 - 11x
Venice 3400+ s754 - 12x (OEM chip only)

I can pick up a used E6 3000+ for $65 shipped (CBBWE stepping, 0544 production), but Newegg has the 3400+ for $99 with a free (albeit crappy) NF3 board. Based on experiences I've found on other forums, it seems that the 3400+ should be able to hit 2.7-2.8Ghz easy, simply because of the higher multiplier and a stock speed of 2.4Ghz.

Also, it seems that the newer E6 3000+ or 3200+ don't seem to overclock as well as the earlier E3 cores and require high voltage (1.6v+) to get 2.6Ghz+. Overall, the 3200+ seemed to be the best bang for the buck, but I haven't had much luck finding them.

Any recommendations? Also, I'd love to hear it if anyone has any details on the 0544 CBBWE chips.

 

[formulav8]

If it was me, I would go ahead with the 3400+ deal. Sell the mobo and get $30 or whatever and buy you a better mobo if you want. That Biostar NF3 board seems to oc ok. Seems like a couple are getting bad boards though. IT should have a PCI Lock. You shouldn't need much htt speed to get it to the cpu's limit either.

I would go with the 3400+ and sell the board. Or try the board and sell it if you are not happy with it. 🙂


Jason

 

[Stumps]

I have a 3000+ (E6 Venice) on a GA-K8NS PRO, it currently runs at 2.67ghz, 1.5v no worries at all, I could push it higher but I haven't been bothered yet.

 

[GreenMonkey]

Highest I could get my Venice 3400+ overclocked Prime95-stable was 2.67ghz. I think I got it running 241x11.5 (2.77ghz) but I didn't like how much voltage I had to feed it (1.65v). A guy over in the hardforum socket754 club thread got his to 2969.3mhz but it was with crazy amounts of voltage that you wouldn't want to run long term 😀

2.7 or so is about tops for the 3400+. I think most of the Venice chips will likely clock to about the same, 2.6-2.7 or or so.

 

[KeypoX]

3000

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: KeypoX
3000

umm 3000 what?

I guess you must have 3000 magic beans or something?

 

[BlueWeasel]

After seeing some of the big AMD price cuts finally surfacing today, I may just hold off for now and stick with my Sempron 3100+ running at 2.6Ghz. The 3100+ has 256k of cache, so it's not as limited as the other 128k Semprons.

I've seen several people selling the 3000+ Venices, but they haven't been overclocked. If I could find one that OCs to 2.65-2.7Ghz at 1.55v or less, then I might jump on it for $60-$70.

The main reason I'm still sticking with s754 at this point is my 9800XT is still a great video card for me. Unfortunately, s939 boards with an AGP are limited. Even still, with AMD's lower prices, I could upgrade to s939 for:

NF4 s939 MB - $70
X2 3800+ - $150
PCI-e budget video card - $100

Assuming I could get $100 for my current s754 DFI board/Sempron64 and $70 for a 9800Pro, that's less than $200 to upgrade to s939 and a X2 chip that would overclock at least as high as any s754 chip.

The real question comes down to how much difference in performance would there be on a Sempron64 at 2.6Ghz with 256k cache vs. a A64 running at 2.6-2.7Ghz? My guess is probably not much.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
After seeing some of the big AMD price cuts finally surfacing today, I may just hold off for now and stick with my Sempron 3100+ running at 2.6Ghz. The 3100+ has 256k of cache, so it's not as limited as the other 128k Semprons.

I've seen several people selling the 3000+ Venices, but they haven't been overclocked. If I could find one that OCs to 2.65-2.7Ghz at 1.55v or less, then I might jump on it for $60-$70.

The main reason I'm still sticking with s754 at this point is my 9800XT is still a great video card for me. Unfortunately, s939 boards with an AGP are limited. Even still, with AMD's lower prices, I could upgrade to s939 for:

NF4 s939 MB - $70
X2 3800+ - $150
PCI-e budget video card - $100

Assuming I could get $100 for my current s754 DFI board and Sempron64, that's only about a $200 upgrade to s939 and a X2 chip that would overclock at least as high as any s754 chip.

The real question comes down to how much difference in performance would there be on a Sempron64 at 2.6Ghz with 256k cache vs. a A64 running at 2.6-2.7Ghz? My guess is probably not much.

I would probably say maybe 10%, thats all.