Any rough idea on when Nvidia will release their GTX 7xx Series?

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I don't know what to do.... I've just upgraded my entire system except for Video Cards... My budget is around $1,000 for cards. How far out are the new Nvidia 7 series cards? Or should I pick up a pair of 680s and call it a day... Or a pair of 7970s... But I don't want to miss out on a card without Physix...
 

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NVIDIA just got done releasing the 600 series. The 700 series is going to be many months out.
 

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Based on what?
Originally 780 was going to reuse the GK110 and confirmed release date is after March 2013. Now it is going to be a new GPU, with a very fuzzy release date. I bet it wont be released in March, not with a brand new GPU. See for example http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVID...er-GPU-Is-15-Better-than-GTX-680-299153.shtml
I am reading that as "not before 2013Q3" given Nvidias track record from this year. Add global recession to it, waiting for new consoles etc and 2014 sounds like a rather realistic time.
 

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Originally 780 was going to reuse the GK110 and confirmed release date is after March 2013. Now it is going to be a new GPU, with a very fuzzy release date. I bet it wont be released in March, not with a brand new GPU. See for example http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVID...er-GPU-Is-15-Better-than-GTX-680-299153.shtml
I am reading that as "not before 2013Q3" given Nvidias track record from this year. Add global recession to it, waiting for new consoles etc and 2014 sounds like a rather realistic time.

To call it a "recession" is very inaccurate but then again it is not yet a full blown depression and global industrial output has been in decline for years. Check the debt numbers and total currency in circulation then maybe you will get a hint of what could be around the corner.
 

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OP, obviously has a lot of $$ and so just get a gtx690 and call it a day, you get ur physx too!

OP better keep in mind that the pci-e switch might need a firmware update if he buys that card. It is a nice card and a great looking one too but for such a price I would expect to be able to nuke it. Kepler flies when pushed far beyond the norm (1.3-1.5ghz). :ninja:
 

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FML... well I just picked up two of these... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125437

Finally built my dream PC I guess... Ill post pics when everything gets in...

If you haven't got it yet, I'd recommend changing the order to 4gig cards. The 2gig of RAM will be your first bottleneck down the road. There are already games using close to that @ 1920*1080.

What resolution are you going to be running?
 

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700 series desktop cards will come in Q1 2013 most likely. Both Nvidia and AMD have already started rebadging current notebook GPU's with their next gen prefixes, so releases aren't way, way off.
 

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700 series desktop cards will come in Q1 2013 most likely. Both Nvidia and AMD have already started rebadging current notebook GPU's with their next gen prefixes, so releases aren't way, way off.
I reply like 98Firebird: Based on what?
Isn't the delay until at the earliest March confirmed already? March is Q1 but it never happens that Nvidia says not before March and make it during March :whiste:
 

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AMD will have the HD8970 Out in Jan to March next year! and it will blow away the GTX680 & HD7970 making them look like a pile of garbage...

:) just how things are really... anyone that thinks the GTX680/HD7970 will be faster then next gen stuff is living in a dreamland lol i cant wait to grab myself a HD8970 and laugh at all the fools who just picked up a GTX680 in the last few months.
 

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I reply like 98Firebird: Based on what?
Isn't the delay until at the earliest March confirmed already? March is Q1 but it never happens that Nvidia says not before March and make it during March :whiste:

It took nvidia 8 months to refresh GF100, and 7 months to refresh GF104. GK110 is out and working as of October this year. March is 4-5 months from GK110's debut and 12 months after GK104's release. A year to refresh GK104 (as opposed to the 7 or 8 months between fermi's refreshes) coupled with the fact that GK110 is in working, shipping products right now AND the small fact that nvidias's biggest hater (charlie d) himself said March makes March sound perfectly reasonable and probable to me.
 

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It took nvidia 8 months to refresh GF100, and 7 months to refresh GF104. GK110 is out and working as of October this year. March is 4-5 months from GK110's debut and 12 months after GK104's release. A year to refresh GK104 (as opposed to the 7 or 8 months between fermi's refreshes) coupled with the fact that GK110 is in working, shipping products right now AND the small fact that nvidias's biggest hater (charlie d) himself said March makes March sound perfectly reasonable and probable to me.

Is GK110 going to be released as a Geforce model?
 

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Is GK110 going to be released as a Geforce model?

Well it's either GK110 gets to be a geforce card or Nvidia has another Kepler chip (GK112????) that will sit between GK104 and GK110. As it is now Nvidia won't have a chance at GK104's respin keeping up with whatever succeeds Tahiti. Realistically, Nvidia can squeeze about 10% more performance out of respinning GK104 and using faster ram. Tahiti's successor is rumored to be 15-20% faster than the hd7970GE. Since the 7970GE is about 10% faster than the gtx680 now, Nvidia would clearly lose to not only AMD's top single GPU, but likely their second best GPU as well. Again, I'm speaking on what is the most reasonable situation. There were a few unsubstantiated rumors of a Kepler chip code named GK112, but who knows if that was confused for GK110 or if it was the code name for the dual GK104 SKU. I think the most likely scenario is that GK110 becomes a Geforce card, and gets a super high price tag ($599-649 for the top end GK110 card).
 
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FML... well I just picked up two of these... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125437

Finally built my dream PC I guess... Ill post pics when everything gets in...

You bought two of those? I hope you have plenty of room on your motherboard, as they are three-slot cards. Personally I would have recommended you purchase a couple 7970s or 7950s; the 7970 performs as well as the 680 (the 7970 GHz edition performs better), they're a better value and come with a bunch of games. You wouldn't be missing out on much if you don't get PhysX; there's basically only one or two PhysX games a year, so it's hardly worth basing a purchasing decision on.
 

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Well it's either GK110 gets to be a geforce card or Nvidia has another Kepler chip (GK112????) that will sit between GK104 and GK110. As it is now Nvidia won't have a chance at GK104's respin keeping up with whatever succeeds Tahiti. Realistically, Nvidia can squeeze about 10% more performance out of respinning GK104 and using faster ram. Tahiti's successor is rumored to be 15-20% faster than the hd7970GE. Since the 7970GE is about 10% faster than the gtx680 now, Nvidia would clearly lose to not only AMD's top single GPU, but likely their second best GPU as well. Again, I'm speaking on what is the most reasonable situation. There were a few unsubstantiated rumors of a Kepler chip code named GK112, but who knows if that was confused for GK110 or if it was the code name for the dual GK104 SKU. I think the most likely scenario is that GK110 becomes a Geforce card, and gets a super high price tag ($599-649 for the top end GK110 card).

I've also seen the GK112 rumor. My first thought is that it's not another chip, but a further crippled GK110 and they didn't want to call it GK110 for marketing reasons.

nVidia has made it sound like they won't release a Geforce GK110 unless they have to if AMD releases some Super Sea Islands chip.
 

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I've also seen the GK112 rumor. My first thought is that it's not another chip, but a further crippled GK110 and they didn't want to call it GK110 for marketing reasons.

nVidia has made it sound like they won't release a Geforce GK110 unless they have to if AMD releases some Super Sea Islands chip.

Yeah there was a rumor a few weeks ago that GK112 would be a 12 SMX chip (2304 cuda cores) with 4 GPC's and a 384-bit bus (basically GK104 with an additional SMX per GPC and two more 64-bit memory contollers). But I seriously doubt that rumor as any validity to it. I have not seen anything that indicated Nvidia would not release GK110 as a Geforce product. Could you provide a link or the potential website you read that from if you cannot remember for sure where you read it? If there is nothing between GK104 and GK110, and GK110 does not become a Geforce card, I'd be floored. Nvidia would basically be exiting from the enthusiast desktop market, something they have never done.
 
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Yeah there was a rumor a few weeks ago that GK112 would be a 12 SMX chip (2304 cuda cores) with 4 GPC's and a 384-bit bus (basically GK104 with an additional SMX per GPC and two more 64-bit memory contollers). But I seriously doubt that rumor as any validity to it. I have not seen anything that indicated Nvidia would not release GK110 as a Geforce product. Could you provide a link or the potential website you read that from if you cannot remember for sure where you read it? If there is nothing between GK104 and GK110, and GK110 does not become a Geforce card, I'd be floored. Nvidia would basically be exiting from the enthusiast desktop market, something they have never done.

I don't recall where I read it. It was an nVidia press release at or about the same time as the specs for GK110 were released.

I don't see them bowing out of the enthusiast market, at all. IF they can maintain competitiveness without going all out with +500mm chips and still hit their higher price points like with the 600 series, then why not? This will require AMD to do similar, and considering AMD's preferred "sweet spot" approach it could happen.

I honestly don't think the desktop GPU market is anywhere near as profitable as other tech industries. You look at the cutting edge nature of it, the bill of materials for a graphics card, the numbers sold, manufacturing, shipping, marketing, service, and the amount of time before it's EOL'd and it's a wonder to me that they make any money at all.
 
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It took nvidia 8 months to refresh GF100, and 7 months to refresh GF104. GK110 is out and working as of October this year. March is 4-5 months from GK110's debut and 12 months after GK104's release. A year to refresh GK104 (as opposed to the 7 or 8 months between fermi's refreshes) coupled with the fact that GK110 is in working, shipping products right now AND the small fact that nvidias's biggest hater (charlie d) himself said March makes March sound perfectly reasonable and probable to me.

Generally, 3 months out to an immiment release of a major new gpu, the AIBs would have access to engineering samples. If they have it, leaks would be out. So we'll know soon enough.