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soundforbjt

Lifer
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Corrected you there. BHO ran as some feel good post partisan moderate when he is actually a far left radical (and very partisan).

What far left policys has Obama created?

The healthcare plan originally proposed by repubs?
Keeping and increasing troops in Afghanistan?
Staying with GW's plan on troop withdrawal in Iraq?
Keeping GITMO open?
Extending the Bush tax cuts?
Continuing the hunt for Bin Laden & killing him?
Unless you think Bush was a far left radical, I don't see it.
 

brandonb

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I mainly vote republican (well, not anymore but in the past, I vote for nobody these days)...

What's wrong:

Type in Romney and AIPAC into google.

His undying love for Israel, which is more dangerous to America than anything else... We will end up in war with Iran for Israel, and for what? Hes a worthless warmonger for a foreign power... Just like every other neocon before him. The bold points below make him unelectable in my book.

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"At a moment when the Jewish state is isolated and under threat, we cannot have an American president who is disdainful of our special relationship with Israel. We have here yet another reason why we need new leadership in the White House."

"I will back up American diplomacy with a very real and very credible military option," he said, by maintaining a regular naval presence in the Mediterranean and Gulf region and by increasing U.S. military assistance to Israel.

"Si vis pacem, para bellum. That is a Latin phrase, but the ayatollahs will have no trouble understanding its meaning from a Romney administration: If you want peace, prepare for war," he wrote in an opinion article for The Wall Street Journal.

I now want to say more about Iran. The Iranian leadership is the greatest immediate threat to the world since the fall of the Soviet Union, and before that, Nazi Germany.

And the military option must remain on the table – and that threat needs to be credible. Unfortunately– for reasons that are unfathomable to me – our Government has signaled that the military option is effectively off the table. How can that be countenanced when an ally of the United States faces an existential threat?

I don’t pretend for a moment that the course of action to take with Iran is easy or obvious; there are costs to anything we do – but there are even greater costs if we do nothing at all. If we allow Iran under the rule of the mullahs to get a nuclear weapon, it will make the problems America faces today look like a walk in the park.
The clock is ticking, with no real progress to show for the precious time that has already lapsed.
 
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This^^^ Please try.

Ron Paul vs. Obama in a debate, Obama would get his ass handed to him.

As far as Romney goes, he's a Democrat through and through.
Romneycare = Obamacare at the state level.
He's flipflopped on Abortion and Gay Rights
And he is rabbidy anti - 2nd Amendment.
 

piasabird

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I would say that Mormons on the whole do not think like republicans or democrats. We thrive in spite of the government, not because we want more government. We tend not to be war mongers. We also tend to be for traditional moral and family values. We are far from perfect. As for Romney, I never understood forcing people to buy their own medical insurance. While it is a good idea to have medical care, the whole medical care industry has run amock. Insurance seems to make the medical care worse, not better.

When he was running against Huckabee last presidential election Huckabee tried to turn all fundamentalist Christians against Romney because many churches consider Mormonism to be a cult because Mormon church units do not have paid ministry (Priestcraft). For whatever reasons Mormons are feared because they are different, they tithe a real 10% to their church and they support their own members and a lot of people in the communities and the Mormon church gives heavily to Chritian Charity funds that support the poor through the Red Cross and other organizations. The Mormon church is involved in a lot of different charitable projects in Africa and South America from relief funds to water projects, to free wheel chairs, and helping out after natural disasters like floods and earthquakes, etc.
 
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wirelessenabled

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All I'm saying is there is a bit of cognitive dissonance with the party today. America's good times under republican Leadership were very much about balancing budgets and rule of law for everyone. And were even jacked taxes to do it. Regan did it 3x after realizing he went too far. Today they just don't give a fuck it seems and seem intent on destruction.

And no I'm not referring to Bush he was very irresponsible but titans like Eisenhower and Reagan all conservatives can look back and say those were some good times. But today the party fails to understand what made them and advances positions contrary.

Reagan balance the budget? You must be living in an alternate reality:eek:

Despite raising taxes many (11?) times Reagan still managed to triple the US Federal debt from c. 1 trillion to 3 trillion during his 8 years.
 

irishScott

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Huntsman would be a horrid candidate. He is way to moderate for the GOP base. We found out 08 what happens when you nominate a moderate. If the GOP wants to win, they have to have the base show up on election day and to do that you need a conservative.

Those of you who say the GOP should nominate him (Hugo Drax) are voting for Obama anyways.

Lol, pandering to the base was McCain's reasoning for picking Palin. Look where that got him.
 

child of wonder

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I would say that Mormons on the whole do not think like republicans or democrats. We thrive in spite of the government, not because we want more government. We tend not to be war mongers. We also tend to be for traditional moral and family values. We are far from perfect. As for Romney, I never understood forcing people to buy their own medical insurance. While it is a good idea to have medical care, the whole medical care industry has run amock. Insurance seems to make the medical care worse, not better.

When he was running against Huckabee last presidential election Huckabee tried to turn all fundamentalist Christians against Romney because many churches consider Mormonism to be a cult because Mormon church units do not have paid ministry (Priestcraft). For whatever reasons Mormons are feared because they are different, they tithe a real 10% to their church and they support their own members and a lot of people in the communities and the Mormon church gives heavily to Chritian Charity funds that support the poor through the Red Cross and other organizations. The Mormon church is involved in a lot of different charitable projects in Africa and South America from relief funds to water projects, to free wheel chairs, and helping out after natural disasters like floods and earthquakes, etc.

So if I start a religion that worships pink unicorns and believes that only through the daily consumption of toilet paper can anyone be saved AND we give large amounts of money to charity that my religion should be free from scrutiny, criticism, and even disdain?

For someone to faithfully believe in a religion so obviously false speaks volumes about their character.
 

child of wonder

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Because your opinion on religion in general and the LDS church in particular is the end all be all right? :rolleyes:

It's not an opinion. Mormonism's origins are obviously man-made by a devious little charlatan.

He had to look into a hat at a seer stone? 116 pages were lost and Smith could not re-translate the same material? Smith was told by god to start a Bank in Ohio that would never fail and it did? Smith took on 30 wives? The rituals in Mormonism are nearly identical to Freemason rituals, whom Smith was a member? Special underwear is required? Up until 1990 members had to take a blood oath (The Penalty) that should they reveal what they see they should die horribly? Members must give 10% of their gross earnings or they cannot enter the temples to perform the rituals needed for the Celestial Kingdom (highest level of Mormon heaven)? The endless list of ridiculousness continues...

Seriously... come on!

On top of that, Joseph Smith's "translations" are proven false at every opportunity. He was duped by the Kinderhook plates (which, I'm sure, you're aware the church claims he wasn't but early church documents say he was) and his translation of the Book of Abraham has been proven to be a sham.

Only a fool would objectively look at the history, practices, and writings of the Mormon church and "buy" into it.
 

cybrsage

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Ron Paul vs. Obama in a debate, Obama would get his ass handed to him.

As far as Romney goes, he's a Democrat through and through.
Romneycare = Obamacare at the state level.
He's flipflopped on Abortion and Gay Rights
And he is rabbidy anti - 2nd Amendment.

Joe the Plumber vs Obama in a debate, Obama would get his ass handed to him.