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Originally posted by: Ilmater
As for his writing abilities, he's as good a fantasy writer as they come, IMO. His books are as good as the Dragonlance series was.
and fantasy writers are almost universally awful.

r a salvatore's writing is completely formulaic, his characters are unoriginal and completely flat, his stories rip off every cliche that the genre has.
 

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he is good if you're 14. otherwise, the guy blows.

Not really...

it's more about mindless reading... women have Harlequin, guys have D&D...

it all comes out in the wash..

bodice ripper novels blow too.
 

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I love all his stuff. Is the Two Swords the third book in the ones that started with the THousand Orcs? I only buy paperback so usually have to wait a bit. I'm currently reading the 5 or 6 book series about the Dark elves. His name is on them but they are each written by different people. Not sure how all that works... But he's an awesome writer.
 

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r a salvatore's writing is completely formulaic, his characters are unoriginal and completely flat, his stories rip off every cliche that the genre has

You could say that about any genre these days. But despite any claimed cliches it's simply a form of entertainment. As others have said, I tend to find the fantasy genre to be the best escape. I read other genres from time to time, but always come back to fantasy. My last foray into another genre was to read a series of Ludlum books. Good stuff, but now I'm back to fantasy.

Mind telling us what you read and consider good?
 

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As for his writing abilities, he's as good a fantasy writer as they come, IMO. His books are as good as the Dragonlance series was.
meh, I disagree. I read Crystal Shard, then a few series by other authors such as Donaldson (mmm, ok i guess) and then started Martin. Finished Storm of Swords then went back to try Salvatore's Demon trilogy and seriously couldn't get through the first 100 pages. Ditto the Dragonlance books. Granted they were the originals, kinda, but talk about cliche! Bleh! Honestly speaking I don't remember the writing quality in the crystal shard. I do recall I enjoyed it at the time. But if the demon trilogy is any indication, his abilities fall far short of what I would call "as good as they come."
Read the Dark Elf Trilogy. That's clearly his best.
No doubt, I loved all of the Drizzt books while growing up ;)

 

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
I love all his stuff. Is the Two Swords the third book in the ones that started with the THousand Orcs? I only buy paperback so usually have to wait a bit. I'm currently reading the 5 or 6 book series about the Dark elves. His name is on them but they are each written by different people. Not sure how all that works... But he's an awesome writer.

The War of the Spider Queen, I think?

Not nearly into the D&D Fantasy as i used to be for reading.. though i do still flip through them now and then.. I want to keep them for my kids, as the language is advanced enough that you don't feel dumber for having read them, and yet simple enough that almost anyone past the 2 or 3rd grade should have a good time with them...

 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: ElFenix
he is good if you're 14. otherwise, the guy blows.

Not really...

it's more about mindless reading... women have Harlequin, guys have D&D...

it all comes out in the wash..

bodice ripper novels blow too.

At no point did I claim they didn't.. it was a simple comparison...

Although really, in this thread, if you're not a fan of the books, then you're under no obligation to post a reply, with the sole exception of upping your postcount.

Again, different strokes for different folks.. I've never been a george martin fan, but his books aren't, i just don't find them good enough to want to read more then once...

And really, you haven't even told us your preference for books. Hiding something?
 

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
r a salvatore's writing is completely formulaic, his characters are unoriginal and completely flat, his stories rip off every cliche that the genre has

You could say that about any genre these days. But despite any claimed cliches it's simply a form of entertainment. As others have said, I tend to find the fantasy genre to be the best escape. I read other genres from time to time, but always come back to fantasy. My last foray into another genre was to read a series of Ludlum books. Good stuff, but now I'm back to fantasy.

Mind telling us what you read and consider good?

yes, it is simply a form of entertainment. if you want to read pulp then go ahead, read pulp. just don't claim the guy is a good author. he simply isn't. he isn't even that great of a fantasy writer. really, saying someone is a good fantasy writer is damning with faint praise. i got tired of the fantasy and its almost universally horrific writing, plot, characters, etc, a few years ago. i still read jordan based simply on how much time i already have invested. martin because his characters are interesting and aren't all gods. and michael stackpole because he actually seems like a good writer. mostly now i've been reading historical narratives, e.g., stephen ambrose. i did read angels & demons and the davinci code. the guy moves the story along and generally keeps it interesting. wouldn't say he is a great writer though. especially when he takes a lecturing tone toward his audience (like he is sharing some great secret that only he knows). and especially after finding out that those two books are pretty much the same thing.
 

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Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: ElFenix
he is good if you're 14. otherwise, the guy blows.

Not really...

it's more about mindless reading... women have Harlequin, guys have D&D...

it all comes out in the wash..

bodice ripper novels blow too.

At no point did I claim they didn't.. it was a simple comparison...
what were you saying 'not really' to? that the guy blows? i assumed that was what you were saying 'not really' to. maybe you really mean 'no, even if you're 14 the guy still blows.' that obviously has to be it after agreeing that bodice ripper novels blow, otherwise you're completely turned around on yourself.

 

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Actually, now that you mention it, I'm pysched. I loved The Lone Drow, and cant wait for the two swords. All of his books are well written in my mind, and are a nice deviation from everyday life.
 

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Ambrose is a good author. But I don't generally read anything like that. Just doesn't provide the escape I need to be enjoyable for any length of time.

Anyway, if I find it enjoyable then I consider it to be good. Simple as that.