Any phone to match Iphone's touch screen responsiveness?

[bearxor]

So you guys agree that iPhone touch accuracy> Android touch accuracy?

Accuracy isn't really the right word. Responsiveness maybe.

 

[Dice144]

Did you try a Windows phone 7 device? My HTC Titan is pretty smooth!

 

[kaerflog]

That's fine. AT&T 3G is plenty fast enough anyway.
I don't see why anyone would want to trade an Exynos Note for an inferior SnapDragon version.
What AT&T did was a bad tradeoff.

You're speaking from a geek point of view.
ATT advertising the NOTE as LTE compatible is a much bigger selling point than advertising that it has some Exynos soc that most people have no clue anyway.
While ATT 3g is faster than Sprint/Verizon 3G, its still slow.
The tradeoff with having LTE is far greater than a faster soc especially if theres LTE in your city.

 

[QueBert]

You're speaking from a geek point of view.
ATT advertising the NOTE as LTE compatible is a much bigger selling point than advertising that it has some Exynos soc that most people have no clue anyway.
While ATT 3g is faster than Sprint/Verizon 3G, its still slow.
The tradeoff with having LTE is far greater than a faster soc especially if theres LTE in your city.

My city has LTE in a lot of the places, but I'm in doors with Wifi access most of the time. I would absolutely have taken the GT-N7000 model if AT&T gave me the choice which Note I wanted. And even if my city was LTE less, and I didn't have wifi, I only have a few gigs of data a month allowed to me. So I'd still take the 3G only phone that otherwise has much better specs.

 

[bearxor]

I don't think the change out to a S3 is that bad. Processing power-wise, the S3 isn't significantly slower than the Exynos. GPU is a whole other story though. But, it's my understanding that 2.3 isn't very GPU accelerated so a slower GPU shouldn't have an impact in the responsiveness of the OS.

 

[krumme]

I just feel like upgrading from my Iphone 4 to another OS just for the heck of it. One thing I cannot absolutely do without is the same accuracy and the responsiveness of the Iphone. What other manufacturers make a similar or better screen?

Thanks

I would say the SGS3 just edges it out in two ways:

1. You got just slightly better contact with the screen - you know the feeling like its sticking to your finger. This is also noticiable better than fx. the s2.

2. Its faster. I think most have to do with improvement on the software side compared to s2 on 4.03. Its just plain fast.

Its very much a personal feeling, but i think the majority of ip4s owners would prefer the s3. The transitions on the ip4s is very fluid and sweet, but takes time. Its faster on the s3, -> you get the work done faster.

Then the question about the OS. I think TW on samsung is just easier to use than standard os, and the apple os, and the options is nice to have. I think Apple users would like the tw interface far better than the usual standard android nerd

If the SGS3 had the Apple label, it would sell like crazy to the apple crowd. The only thing lacking is the apps not having the same big platform, and the voice recognition, otherwise the S3 is just several classes better than ip4. For most then it should simple be a question about the availability of the apps you use now. But ofcourse that can have decisive importance.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

I would say the SGS3 just edges it out in two ways:

1. You got just slightly better contact with the screen - you know the feeling like its sticking to your finger. This is also noticiable better than fx. the s2.

2. Its faster. I think most have to do with improvement on the software side compared to s2 on 4.03. Its just plain fast.

Its very much a personal feeling, but i think the majority of ip4s owners would prefer the s3. The transitions on the ip4s is very fluid and sweet, but takes time. Its faster on the s3, -> you get the work done faster.

Then the question about the OS. I think TW on samsung is just easier to use than standard os, and the apple os, and the options is nice to have. I think Apple users would like the tw interface far better than the usual standard android nerd

If the SGS3 had the Apple label, it would sell like crazy to the apple crowd. The only thing lacking is the apps not having the same big platform, and the voice recognition, otherwise the S3 is just several classes better than ip4. For most then it should simple be a question about the availability of the apps you use now. But ofcourse that can have decisive importance.

I tried out the SGS3 yesterday. It still has the Android touch delay. This has nothing to do with how fast its scrolling or how fast the apps start, its how the OS follows your finger while scrolling. Like i said i was never bothered with it on my S2 but people who really love Iphone smoothness will most likely never be satisfied with Androids touch

TS should check out the phones in a store first

 

[krumme]

Ofcourse you should try the phones yourself, but personal opinion and perception is very much influenced by the brand, and the story the brand carries. Thats why the players invest in the brand, to alter your perception.

Compared to the SGS3 the talk about the IP smoothness, has i my world very much become a story from the past. Try using a S3 for hours, and then go back, the numbers from fx. anandtech back it up, and so do all the reviews i have seen.

The IP smootness advantage to s3 is nonsense, and have nothing to do with the physical reality. Its an imagination. Personal opinion is good, but technical facts and solid reviews must rule if they all point the same direction, especially for users of this forum.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

Ofcourse you should try the phones yourself, but personal opinion and perception is very much influenced by the brand, and the story the brand carries. Thats why the players invest in the brand, to alter your perception.

Compared to the SGS3 the talk about the IP smoothness, has i my world very much become a story from the past. Try using a S3 for hours, and then go back, the numbers from fx. anandtech back it up, and so do all the reviews i have seen.

The IP smootness advantage to s3 is nonsense, and have nothing to do with the physical reality. Its an imagination. Personal opinion is good, but technical facts and solid reviews must rule if they all point the same direction, especially for users of this forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy

 

[bearxor]

Ofcourse you should try the phones yourself, but personal opinion and perception is very much influenced by the brand, and the story the brand carries. Thats why the players invest in the brand, to alter your perception.

Compared to the SGS3 the talk about the IP smoothness, has i my world very much become a story from the past. Try using a S3 for hours, and then go back, the numbers from fx. anandtech back it up, and so do all the reviews i have seen.

The IP smootness advantage to s3 is nonsense, and have nothing to do with the physical reality. Its an imagination. Personal opinion is good, but technical facts and solid reviews must rule if they all point the same direction, especially for users of this forum.

I reject the notion that people stick with Apple because it's Apple. People stick with it because it works for them. If it stopped working, they'd look somewhere else.

In your hypothetical world where the Galaxy S3 is made by Apple and looks/works the same way, I'd just say that I think I'd really be using a Windows Phone instead.

 

[krumme]

I reject the notion that people stick with Apple because it's Apple. People stick with it because it works for them. If it stopped working, they'd look somewhere else.

In your hypothetical world where the Galaxy S3 is made by Apple and looks/works the same way, I'd just say that I think I'd really be using a Windows Phone instead.

Well, people was stock on the notion that the earth was flat for centuries, even though scientific proved them otherwise. They did, because it worked for them.

All reviews i have read says S3 is very fast and fluid. The numbers back up the subjective experience. And in spades. That is the real world, and real evidence.

 

[vi edit]

The funny thing about people is that perceptions are often times more powerful than factual evidence. For good and bad. If you are stuck in a waiting room with nothing to do and just sitting there vs. one that has magazines or a TV on the wall it doesn't matter if the first one is actually a couple minutes faster for service. It's still going to feel longer of a wait.

If you are on hold wait times feel shorter if there is music or radio station pumped through vs. just a muted line.

Same thing with interfaces on devices. How they are programmed to respond greatly affects our perceptions. I almost made a living when Windows XP came out "speeding up" computers by simply turning off the transition effects of the start menu and window dragging. Just simple little things here and there that affect how we perceive relative speed and function of a product. Numbers be damned.

I still haven't played with an Android phone yet that feels as fast as an iPhone. Numbers be damned.

 

[krumme]

I still haven't played with an Android phone yet that feels as fast as an iPhone. Numbers be damned.

Our perception is guided by prior expectations, because it reduces complexity. Our cognitive system would be overloaded if the experience didnt filter out most of the impressions. Therefore we need big change to alter our perception. That means fx. that people trying an S3 needs a big difference, to perciewe it as better than ip because their prior experience with android have proved them otherwise.

Well you havnt tried an S3, and if you do, there is a big chance you will perciewe - feel - it as fast if not faster. Because thats what all the reviewers say - about their "feelings". Numbers be damned.

Now what happens if you have had a s3 for a month and then go back to a ip4s, what do you think the experience of the ip4 will be then?

Apple needs something with bigger screen, better/faster, slimmer, and more durable. And IP5 will show even for the hardest Apple fans, that Ip4 is - Shock !!! - a 2 years old design. Feelings be damned

 

[Deeko]

Well, people was stock on the notion that the earth was flat for centuries, even though scientific proved them otherwise. They did, because it worked for them.

All reviews i have read says S3 is very fast and fluid. The numbers back up the subjective experience. And in spades. That is the real world, and real evidence.

You keep talking about the "numbers backing up" its fluidness. Now, numbers might back up that it renders web pages fast, or has a high frame rate, but what numbers are you referring to that track UI responsiveness and smoothness?

 

[krumme]

You keep talking about the "numbers backing up" its fluidness. Now, numbers might back up that it renders web pages fast, or has a high frame rate, but what numbers are you referring to that track UI responsiveness and smoothness?

Do you really care about the numbers?

All the review sites i have read, say it feels responsive, fast and smooth.

If you are interested in the numbers, first go and define the words, in technical term so it can be measured. Because from an objective point of view we need to separate what is responsive, smooth, fluid, sweet, or nice, because aparently its not connected to rendering webpages fast or framerates, loading apps or swithcing between elements. Perhaps, with the definitions in hand, then we c an find some numbers/benchmarks, to back up the experience of the reviewers.

I am not saying some people will not experience the s3 as less smooth, fluid whatever word they choose for the day, probably in the days to come there will soon be lots of blogssaying so, but i refer to the big review sites. Its very seldom there is the same agreeness, on what is very much a personal perception.

Go try the phone for a few hours. The transitions is different, and even if they are smoother and faster than ip4, you migh prefer the apple way because its just feels better.

 

[Deeko]

I'm neither confirming nor denying if the S3 is smooth. I'm just referring to the fact that you've said "the numbers back it up" or something along those lines several times. I'm asking you what you mean by that, that's all.

 

[QueBert]

I've played with the S3, it's smooth as hell for an Android device, it definitely doesn't touch an iPhone 4S's smoothness though. The S3 would feel perfect speed wise to a person who's never played with iOS or WP7.

Go to a store where you can play with it directly next to an iPhone or Lumia 900. It's not as smooth. Play with it next to a Note or Skyrocket you'll be like "holy shit this is so fluid!"

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I do find it funny that EVERY new Android phone that comes out we say its FLUID as hell. It's smooth as shit.

When I got my Motorola Droid/Milestone and the NExus 1 came out, people said "Dude this is the smooth phone to get. You will never complain again." Then faster phones like the SGS1 came out. Then the dual cores. When the SGS2 hit, people said this is it. Well here we are at quad cores and we're still not sure if its smoother than an iPhone. Shrug.

 

[bearxor]

Do you really care about the numbers?

All the review sites i have read, say it feels responsive, fast and smooth.

If you are interested in the numbers, first go and define the words, in technical term so it can be measured. Because from an objective point of view we need to separate what is responsive, smooth, fluid, sweet, or nice, because aparently its not connected to rendering webpages fast or framerates, loading apps or swithcing between elements. Perhaps, with the definitions in hand, then we c an find some numbers/benchmarks, to back up the experience of the reviewers.

I am not saying some people will not experience the s3 as less smooth, fluid whatever word they choose for the day, probably in the days to come there will soon be lots of blogssaying so, but i refer to the big review sites. Its very seldom there is the same agreeness, on what is very much a personal perception.

Go try the phone for a few hours. The transitions is different, and even if they are smoother and faster than ip4, you migh prefer the apple way because its just feels better.

You've got plenty of empirical evidence in this thread that there's still a large opinion of people with hands on experience that say Android phones are not as responsive or fluid as an iPhone or a Windows Phone. /shurg

I don't think a lot of us have hands-on time with a S3, since most of us are US-based, but I don't think anyone is really expecting it to be significantly better than a OneX.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Well, here is coming from an iPhone 4 user: I think the international HTC One X is smooth and responsive as hell (browser included). It's still not quite there with iPhone 4S sometimes, but it's very comparable to iPhone 4.

It is very smooth and responsive for an Android device, and I think it matches iOS or Windows Phone level in terms of performance more or less.

That said, I think I can believe it if someone says the SGS3 is even more responsive and smoother. In which case, I think the SGS3 would be hella close to the iPhone 4.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I've played with the S3, it's smooth as hell for an Android device, it definitely doesn't touch an iPhone 4S's smoothness though. The S3 would feel perfect speed wise to a person who's never played with iOS or WP7.

Go to a store where you can play with it directly next to an iPhone or Lumia 900. It's not as smooth. Play with it next to a Note or Skyrocket you'll be like "holy shit this is so fluid!"

Where did you try an S3? The U.S. models haven't been officially announced yet.

 

[krumme]

This is a typical remark about the s3

"Menu transitions, multitasking and apps all run as smooth as warm butter, while the One X offers the occasional stutter between homescreens at times. Simply put, the Galaxy S3 offers the slickest Android experience we’ve had to date and brings iPhone-like levels of smoothness to the Google camp at long last."
http://stuffmideast.com/2012/05/24/130029/review-the-iphone-challenging-samsung-galaxy-s3/

But all this smoothness is just a small part of the phone. Try fx. surfing on the S3 and its aparent, that speed matters a great deal. Swithching between elements, programs, zooming. Everything is just really fast. Thats perhaps not the definition by smoothness, but there is far, far more to the experience than smoothness.

 

[Red Storm]

I do find it funny that EVERY new Android phone that comes out we say its FLUID as hell. It's smooth as shit.

When I got my Motorola Droid/Milestone and the NExus 1 came out, people said "Dude this is the smooth phone to get. You will never complain again." Then faster phones like the SGS1 came out. Then the dual cores. When the SGS2 hit, people said this is it. Well here we are at quad cores and we're still not sure if its smoother than an iPhone. Shrug.

What people? I didn't know one person's opinion made it fact for all. The Galaxy Nexus is the "smoothest" phone I've ever used. It's not lag free, but neither was/is the iPhone 4. They both had occasional lag hiccups, but considering how much more limiting iOS was, I was more surprised and annoyed at its lag than with Android.

 

[bearxor]

This is a typical remark about the s3

"Menu transitions, multitasking and apps all run as smooth as warm butter, while the One X offers the occasional stutter between homescreens at times. Simply put, the Galaxy S3 offers the slickest Android experience we’ve had to date and brings iPhone-like levels of smoothness to the Google camp at long last."
http://stuffmideast.com/2012/05/24/130029/review-the-iphone-challenging-samsung-galaxy-s3/

But all this smoothness is just a small part of the phone. Try fx. surfing on the S3 and its aparent, that speed matters a great deal. Swithching between elements, programs, zooming. Everything is just really fast. Thats perhaps not the definition by smoothness, but there is far, far more to the experience than smoothness.

But again, most of us don't give a shit about your review sites and prefer to have hands on time. So, when most of us can get to a store to handle a S3, we'll see.

 

[dguy6789]

My last 3 or 4 Android devices were/are smoother than my iPad 1st gen in pretty much everything. Of course in terms of speed every single Android device I have ever had was faster, just not all of them smoother.