My CPU is currently clocked at 3.375ghz w/ 1.435v in bios and 1.4v in cpuz. Idle temps are about 21-22C and load temps 50c with orthos or two tmpgenc instances encoding. If there are any other owners out there how do you like yours so far and how does it perform? It's a LOT cooler than the Scythe Infinity I have and a lot cooler than the Zalman 9700 I had too. I'm pretty happy with it over all.
Any other Vigor Monsoon II owners?
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well of course its going to be cooler....
The Vigor Monsoon II is not a typical CPU heatsink fan. In addition to a copper base, large aluminum fins, and 92mm LED fan, the Monsoon II cooler incorporates both heat pipes and active Thermoelectric Cooling. It comes with a control module that automatically adjusts the coolerâ??s fan speed and turns on and off the Peltier device to maintain a target CPU temperature.
Without the TEC it would not hold a candle to the Infinity or th 9700!!
$85...
We know the trend has been to make devices like these th mainstram.
The Vigor Monsoon II is not a typical CPU heatsink fan. In addition to a copper base, large aluminum fins, and 92mm LED fan, the Monsoon II cooler incorporates both heat pipes and active Thermoelectric Cooling. It comes with a control module that automatically adjusts the coolerâ??s fan speed and turns on and off the Peltier device to maintain a target CPU temperature.
Without the TEC it would not hold a candle to the Infinity or th 9700!!
$85...
We know the trend has been to make devices like these th mainstram.
Yes I understand how it works and it's not a pure copper base it's nickle plated... If you had one you would know that =) I'm just saying it runs easily 10C cooler or more on average than the infinity I put in to test temps. I want to throw a Ninja Rev B Plus in off the pc I built for my brother, but I'm kind of lazy and if I do that I will end up ripping the pc apart and leaving it all out so I can test my old E6600 and see if I was getting temp problems cause the CPU got messed up with my ocz psu blew up or what. It overclocks a lot more than my current one. I really like this cooler I feel it was well worth the money. I also realize without the TEC it couldn't handle the 9700 or Infinity, but it has a TEC and it's a lot smaller easily fits without any bumping into the NB hsf or my ram or the vreg nothing it fits beautifully.
I used it, and while it does suck a lot of power, it does get the job done. And when comparing its cooling capability to my new watercooling, it is almost close to its performance (granted I have 2 GTS in the loop).
I maxed out at around 45-46C under Prime95 load on both cores (or Orthos if you use that). And it would idle around 39C ish
It is hard to recommend because of its price premium, if you are willing you could put that money towards watercooling and it would probably be cheaper. But if you don't wish to go through the hassle, then I recommend it (personally)
I maxed out at around 45-46C under Prime95 load on both cores (or Orthos if you use that). And it would idle around 39C ish
It is hard to recommend because of its price premium, if you are willing you could put that money towards watercooling and it would probably be cheaper. But if you don't wish to go through the hassle, then I recommend it (personally)
That's the only thing, water cooling isn't practical for me because I lan so much and I would just hate to have something fuck up in a move. This cooler is expensive but it definitely gets it's job done, minus the fan throttling constantly I'm really happy with it. It's a lot smaller than most of the top air coolers, it's pretty easy to install, and you can get it ass tight onto the cpu.
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u are aware that alone is almost 350W of heat.
Average cpu overclocked puts out about 121W TDP of heat.
What are you pushing on your cpu? What is your radiator?
Watercooling on a cpu loop alone with a standard apogee + 120x2 + DDC-1 would own it.
Monsoon sucks hardcore. the TR120 will pwn it if you lap the base. Doesnt require any electricity. And anandtech even has a comparision with it.
Thermalright Ultra120 FTW!
That requires you to lap the base, neat I don't have the time or effort to want to do that. I want to buy something and I want it to work like it's been reviewed and HEY GUESS WHAT IT DOES! I personally like the cooler, it works well Id on't have to worry about any of that nonsense.
well yeah, I know the GTS in SLI in the loop is what causes my processor to stay within the range of the cooling capabilities of the Monsoon II. But it does help give him an idea where the Monsoon II is at, especially from a person who has used both with several types of processors.
My E6400 is also very power hungry, requiring roughly 1.55V(bios) / 1.5V(real) to stay stable at 3.65GHz, and the temperatures I provided you is based on those settings.
When I was using it on my E6300, which was less power hungry, it was able to keep it at 40-41C at 3.2GHz at 1.4V under Orthos load.
So if you really aren't willing to go through the hassles of W.C., willing to pay the price premium, deal with the extra power it uses, then I recommend it. I can see why people dislike it because for all its qualities you have to accept the heavy vices. But considering where I live (Los Angeles) I was honestly surprised it was able to keep it at those temperatures with those voltages when the ambient temperature here is usually 90F+
My E6400 is also very power hungry, requiring roughly 1.55V(bios) / 1.5V(real) to stay stable at 3.65GHz, and the temperatures I provided you is based on those settings.
When I was using it on my E6300, which was less power hungry, it was able to keep it at 40-41C at 3.2GHz at 1.4V under Orthos load.
So if you really aren't willing to go through the hassles of W.C., willing to pay the price premium, deal with the extra power it uses, then I recommend it. I can see why people dislike it because for all its qualities you have to accept the heavy vices. But considering where I live (Los Angeles) I was honestly surprised it was able to keep it at those temperatures with those voltages when the ambient temperature here is usually 90F+
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bfdd
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: aigomorla
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: IceRedwing
I used it, and while it does suck a lot of power, it does get the job done. And when comparing its cooling capability to my new watercooling, it is almost close to its performance (granted I have 2 GTS in the loop).
I maxed out at around 45-46C under Prime95 load on both cores (or Orthos if you use that). And it would idle around 39C ish
It is hard to recommend because of its price premium, if you are willing you could put that money towards watercooling and it would probably be cheaper. But if you don't wish to go through the hassle, then I recommend it (personally)</end quote></div>
u are aware that alone is almost 350W of heat.
Average cpu overclocked puts out about 121W TDP of heat.
What are you pushing on your cpu? What is your radiator?
Watercooling on a cpu loop alone with a standard apogee + 120x2 + DDC-1 would own it.
Monsoon sucks hardcore. the TR120 will pwn it if you lap the base. Doesnt require any electricity. And anandtech even has a comparision with it.
Thermalright Ultra120 FTW!
</end quote></div>
That requires you to lap the base, neat I don't have the time or effort to want to do that. I want to buy something and I want it to work like it's been reviewed and HEY GUESS WHAT IT DOES! I personally like the cooler, it works well Id on't have to worry about any of that nonsense.
</end quote></div>
To match the required cooling capacity of a Ultra120 Lapped, you would need to set the monsoon on very high, and this causes a lot of noise.
Im sorry but the monsoon is CRAP, ive been telling people its crap, and i cant stress how much of a crap product it is:
Why do I think its crap? Because the concept behind its TEC is absolute crap. So is the coolit freezone. TEC's are not efficient, and there a complete waste of electricity on a modern processor.
And a Ultra120 lapped, which takes 20 min, and 8 dollars in sand paper will seriously PWN it. And long term usages will also save you money. So how can you say the monsoon is even worth looking at?
Theres a comparison where a ultra120 extreme dominates it.
http://images.anandtech.com/re...bigtyphoon-vx/idle.png
Remember this is just a scale, your results wont be the same as the reviewer, but it does accurately represent the scale of worst to best on the coolers.
Introduction on TEC's:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...showthread.php?t=38367
What the Pro's of Sub Ambient cooling say about TEC products like this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=145547
That ultra is on par with the monsoon. So NO op, that cooler is NOT WORTH IT.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: aigomorla
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: IceRedwing
I used it, and while it does suck a lot of power, it does get the job done. And when comparing its cooling capability to my new watercooling, it is almost close to its performance (granted I have 2 GTS in the loop).
I maxed out at around 45-46C under Prime95 load on both cores (or Orthos if you use that). And it would idle around 39C ish
It is hard to recommend because of its price premium, if you are willing you could put that money towards watercooling and it would probably be cheaper. But if you don't wish to go through the hassle, then I recommend it (personally)</end quote></div>
u are aware that alone is almost 350W of heat.
Average cpu overclocked puts out about 121W TDP of heat.
What are you pushing on your cpu? What is your radiator?
Watercooling on a cpu loop alone with a standard apogee + 120x2 + DDC-1 would own it.
Monsoon sucks hardcore. the TR120 will pwn it if you lap the base. Doesnt require any electricity. And anandtech even has a comparision with it.
Thermalright Ultra120 FTW!
</end quote></div>
That requires you to lap the base, neat I don't have the time or effort to want to do that. I want to buy something and I want it to work like it's been reviewed and HEY GUESS WHAT IT DOES! I personally like the cooler, it works well Id on't have to worry about any of that nonsense.
</end quote></div>
To match the required cooling capacity of a Ultra120 Lapped, you would need to set the monsoon on very high, and this causes a lot of noise.
Im sorry but the monsoon is CRAP, ive been telling people its crap, and i cant stress how much of a crap product it is:
Why do I think its crap? Because the concept behind its TEC is absolute crap. So is the coolit freezone. TEC's are not efficient, and there a complete waste of electricity on a modern processor.
And a Ultra120 lapped, which takes 20 min, and 8 dollars in sand paper will seriously PWN it. And long term usages will also save you money. So how can you say the monsoon is even worth looking at?
Theres a comparison where a ultra120 extreme dominates it.
http://images.anandtech.com/re...bigtyphoon-vx/idle.png
Remember this is just a scale, your results wont be the same as the reviewer, but it does accurately represent the scale of worst to best on the coolers.
Introduction on TEC's:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...showthread.php?t=38367
What the Pro's of Sub Ambient cooling say about TEC products like this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=145547
That ultra is on par with the monsoon. So NO op, that cooler is NOT WORTH IT.
I know what a TEC is and I know how they work and I was really excited about the TR but it wasn't out when I bought this and upgraded from my Zalman 9700. TBH I'm quite happy with it, my idle temps at 1.4375v @ 3.375ghz are bout 20C I've never seen load in orthos over 50C. I've ran 3.6ghz on it before np with really chilly temps on my old e6600. I agree it's not a good buy because of the price to performance ratio, but I'm happy with it and if anyone has the money and wants a much smaller cooler than every other air cooler out there there's nothing wrong with it. It gets the job done without any stress.
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Heh... you have good reasons. :]
AS long as your happy with it, thats all that counts.
20C idle also seems kinda low. What was your ambients? And what program were u using to monitor your temps?
CoreTemp and Speedfan, both show the same. I'd use NVMonitor but for some reason it crashes as soon as I turn it on don't know why it never used to, but ever since I reformated a month or so ago it has. I idle 20C which is really low. My ambients are like 23C/73F I live in So Cal near the beach so pretty cool. Been pretty cool for this time of the year imo.
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bfdd
CoreTemp and Speedfan, both show the same. I'd use NVMonitor but for some reason it crashes as soon as I turn it on don't know why it never used to, but ever since I reformated a month or so ago it has. I idle 20C which is really low. My ambients are like 23C/73F I live in So Cal near the beach so pretty cool. Been pretty cool for this time of the year imo.</end quote></div>
LOL...
you are aware what your just stating cant be correct from a physic standpoint?
Your idle is lower then your ambients.
Thats going to require something a lot more powerful then a 60W tec which powers the vigor
CoreTemp and Speedfan, both show the same. I'd use NVMonitor but for some reason it crashes as soon as I turn it on don't know why it never used to, but ever since I reformated a month or so ago it has. I idle 20C which is really low. My ambients are like 23C/73F I live in So Cal near the beach so pretty cool. Been pretty cool for this time of the year imo.</end quote></div>
LOL...
you are aware what your just stating cant be correct from a physic standpoint?
Your idle is lower then your ambients.
Thats going to require something a lot more powerful then a 60W tec which powers the vigor
It is totally impossible to idle lower than your ambient,,,with what you are using.
ven water cooling has a hard time getitng below ambient.
Just going off what weatherunderground said the temps were =) I live in So Cal by the beach dude. Maybe they're wrong *shrug* I don't have a thermostat in here, but it sure feels hotter in here than it does outside. Idling right now at 22 on 1 core 23 on another. Touched the heatsink feels cold to the touch cooler than the room atleast.
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care to post a screenie?
You hit Printscreen key on your keyboard.
And then Ctrl-P on windows paintbrush, if you dont have any other picture editing software.
And then upload it to a imageshack, or a photobucket or any server you wish.
And then post a link.
You hit Printscreen key on your keyboard.
And then Ctrl-P on windows paintbrush, if you dont have any other picture editing software.
And then upload it to a imageshack, or a photobucket or any server you wish.
And then post a link.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: aigomorla
care to post a screenie?
You hit Printscreen key on your keyboard.
And then Ctrl-P on windows paintbrush, if you dont have any other picture editing software.
And then upload it to a imageshack, or a photobucket or any server you wish.
And then post a link.</end quote></div>
I know how to take and post a screen shot thanks =)
Here it is, if you want to look up my temps my zip code is 90503 =)
Oh and idle temps go up maybe 1 - 2C during the day if at all. I would put my garage temp with 3 pc's and my 65" tv running and the lights it's hotter in here than it is outside even with the window open.
care to post a screenie?
You hit Printscreen key on your keyboard.
And then Ctrl-P on windows paintbrush, if you dont have any other picture editing software.
And then upload it to a imageshack, or a photobucket or any server you wish.
And then post a link.</end quote></div>
I know how to take and post a screen shot thanks =)
Here it is, if you want to look up my temps my zip code is 90503 =)
Oh and idle temps go up maybe 1 - 2C during the day if at all. I would put my garage temp with 3 pc's and my 65" tv running and the lights it's hotter in here than it is outside even with the window open.
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I think you got your ambients messed up. You cant possibly be idling at 21/23 when your ambients are 21/23.
Here is my explaination, because the inside of your case, unless you leave the side pannel open will always be about 3-5C hotter then the outside. Then that pushes your ambients at 26-28F. Your pushing sub ambient of 5-7C which requires energy. And even then, your cooler would be absorbing the ambient heat, instead of releasing it, so therefore on a physics standpoint, its not possible.
Im willing to guess your ambients are more in the range of 60-65F. That would most likely get your those ambients.
this may seem a little OT:
But is 375 your current wall your hitting?
I might be able to help you tweek your overclock higher if you are indeed hitting a wall at 375fsb on the 680i.
I have never seen my idle now that i WCG >.<
Can you post a load temp also? That is very apreciated. Im curious on your overall delta.
I would need either a 10 min TAT on full burn, or a 10 min OrthosSP @ small FFTs for max cpu heat.
Here is my explaination, because the inside of your case, unless you leave the side pannel open will always be about 3-5C hotter then the outside. Then that pushes your ambients at 26-28F. Your pushing sub ambient of 5-7C which requires energy. And even then, your cooler would be absorbing the ambient heat, instead of releasing it, so therefore on a physics standpoint, its not possible.
Im willing to guess your ambients are more in the range of 60-65F. That would most likely get your those ambients.
this may seem a little OT:
But is 375 your current wall your hitting?
I might be able to help you tweek your overclock higher if you are indeed hitting a wall at 375fsb on the 680i.
I have never seen my idle now that i WCG >.<
Can you post a load temp also? That is very apreciated. Im curious on your overall delta.
I would need either a 10 min TAT on full burn, or a 10 min OrthosSP @ small FFTs for max cpu heat.
you missread what i said.....
water has a hard time....
Also Aigo and I go way back....
yes I have seen water go below ambient ..but thats another story...
50C after 4 hrs of Orthos. Also it's not the motherboard that's hitting the 375fsb wall, I've had an e6600 beyond 3.6ghz on this mobo. This cpu just doesn't like it for some reason. Could be my ram*shrug* it just wants way to much voltage to go any faster. If you got any ideas though let me know. My case is closed btw and these are the temps I'm getting.
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The VID is 1.35 =\ which is crap my old one that I had before my OCZ psu went poof(literally) was like 1.25 i believe I can put it in this weekend and check working this week and I'm to lazy to do it while I'm working =)
Edit- oh btw when I got home my core temps were 21 and 20c when I first looked going no higher than 22c. So it's right on with the temp outside today again I'm in a garage with 3 pc's on insulated everything so it's a degree or so hotter in here on average, a lot stuffier than the fresh air to might I add(i need to do laundry) =)
The VID is 1.35 =\ which is crap my old one that I had before my OCZ psu went poof(literally) was like 1.25 i believe I can put it in this weekend and check working this week and I'm to lazy to do it while I'm working =)
Edit- oh btw when I got home my core temps were 21 and 20c when I first looked going no higher than 22c. So it's right on with the temp outside today again I'm in a garage with 3 pc's on insulated everything so it's a degree or so hotter in here on average, a lot stuffier than the fresh air to might I add(i need to do laundry) =)
aigomorla you haven't replied anyways, I'm going to check the flatness of my CPU and hsf this weekend probably if I can get a new straight edge, the one I use for work is all beat up =) Also going to see if I can get some 600-2000 grit from work to lap it with. Maybe I can lower the load temps a bit if I do so.
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bfdd
aigomorla you haven't replied anyways, I'm going to check the flatness of my CPU and hsf this weekend probably if I can get a new straight edge, the one I use for work is all beat up =) Also going to see if I can get some 600-2000 grit from work to lap it with. Maybe I can lower the load temps a bit if I do so.</end quote></div>
let me jump into this is I may.....
You cannot get your temps below whatever the ambient temperature is period!!
Also its hotter inside your cas than it is outside.....
Also living in Southern California as I do we both know that 21c=approx 69.8 degrees
You se the problem is you cannot judge the ambient temperature by wjat it is out side...
When its all about the temperature insie your case....
A little ovr a year ago i posted my temps......with botht heatsinks that i was using...the zalman 9700 and the ThermalRight XP120......guess what my temps were both within 2c of each other......in fact the low temp I postd was with the Zalman....which was 16c....and the XP 120 was 17c......
W#ith my case closed ther was only a 2-3 c difference!!
The closest i came to th out side ambient temp because I had my case open was within 3c.....
So even with screnshots you cannot go against the laws of physics...
It is truly impossible with just aircooling!!
aigomorla you haven't replied anyways, I'm going to check the flatness of my CPU and hsf this weekend probably if I can get a new straight edge, the one I use for work is all beat up =) Also going to see if I can get some 600-2000 grit from work to lap it with. Maybe I can lower the load temps a bit if I do so.</end quote></div>
let me jump into this is I may.....
You cannot get your temps below whatever the ambient temperature is period!!
Also its hotter inside your cas than it is outside.....
Also living in Southern California as I do we both know that 21c=approx 69.8 degrees
You se the problem is you cannot judge the ambient temperature by wjat it is out side...
When its all about the temperature insie your case....
A little ovr a year ago i posted my temps......with botht heatsinks that i was using...the zalman 9700 and the ThermalRight XP120......guess what my temps were both within 2c of each other......in fact the low temp I postd was with the Zalman....which was 16c....and the XP 120 was 17c......
W#ith my case closed ther was only a 2-3 c difference!!
The closest i came to th out side ambient temp because I had my case open was within 3c.....
So even with screnshots you cannot go against the laws of physics...
It is truly impossible with just aircooling!!
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