Any Ontarian's hear about this? Car A/C freon.....

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Viperoni

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I remember hearing I think a couple days ago that all cars 1996 and earlier will not be allowed to re-charge their Car's A/C with freon that contains CFC's....so they must get their car converted over to the CFC free stuff and fill it up with that.

IMO that's pretty fricken stupid.....not only because now the whle 5h!te costs a lot more to get recharged...but becaise now my dads not looking to buy a 95-96 Impala SS/Caprice/Town Car/Continental/etc. big boat.
Now he's looking to get a 98-99 Buick Regal in white (damm it looks good, but it's not a pImpala SS ;))

Damm Mike Harris!
 
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mztykal

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LMAO!

That reminds me, I gotta recharge my CRX with r12. :)

Damn air conditioning feels good in Hawaii during the summer, well worth the fifty-bucks to recharge it. :)
 
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snakesnfrogs

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just get a conversion kit for ~20.00(US) and recharge w/ 134a

edit: it's cheaper than rechrging w/ R12---around here it is anyway
 
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Lifer
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I'd still ike someone in the Ontario area to confirm the above :)

My AC's fine for now though :)
 
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Sugadaddy

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I think it's like that in Quebec too. My dad just had to replace the AC compressor on his car and he had to get one that didn't use freon because they're not allowed to fill cars up with it anymore...
 
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Soybomb

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R-134a is considerably cheaper to use to recharge than the old r12. The only problem is that the older cooling systems were designed for r12 which is more efficient than r134a so your car won't cool as well. Also r134a has a nasty habit of leaking out because a proper retrofit requires more than just draining the r12 and putting on new connectors as the kits at walmart and autozone would like for you to believe. Ideally the system will be vacuumed, new r134a seals put in place because often r134a can escape past r12 fittings since its smaller, a new filter/drier since you had to open the thing up to air to replace the seals, etc. I'd rather keep r12 in my old cars, so I can see why that sucks for yoU!
 
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Soy, so it's quite possible if I were to fill up my current r12 system with r134a, and do nothing else, that it could leak out in a very short period of time?
 
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NaughtyusMaximus

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BC is like that too. I've had no air conditioning in the last three cars I've driven, simply because its going to cost me ~$300 to get rid of the old Freon equipment and replace it with whatever is used now.
 
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Soybomb

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I wouldn't call it very short period of time, but all I've read indicated that if you don't get a retrofit kit with seals, it will leak out over time. Then again if the cars is more than 10 years old R12 probably is leaking out too :) I know I have to take my car in at the start of each season to have about 4 ounces of R12 put into it. Of course at my dads price of $3 an ouce thats cheaper than a proper retrofit kit ;) If yours needs enough refilling that you spend like $50 a year its probably worth it to do r134a becuase you can buy those cans and do it yourself whenever you need for cheap.
 
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'89 Accord I had didn't have AC and it was gonna cost many hundreds to convert. What a hassel.
 
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Thanks for the link Talon :)

Oh, and I talked with a local shop and they said they could do the conversion for $120....
pretty damm good :)
 
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