any of you disliking th ipod?

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Anubis
1) the Rio Karma feels better and so do the iAudio players, the ipod also looks ugly IMO
2) i personally hate it
3) itunes sucks major donkey nuts, everyone i know that has an ipod does NOT USE ITUNES to transfer music, most of them use ephpod, and teh ones that cant figure that out use music match, which was included with the windows ipod before itunes came to the PC

So you arguments are
1) subjective
2) subjective
3) it sucks

wtg

ps. ephpod is better for transfering between ipod and computer because it allows you to copy music from ipod->computer. Otherwise iTunes is superior in every way.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: metalmania
There is another software better than itunes. It's called "Windows Explorer".

yes, I hate Itunes as well.. seems buggy to me, crashes a lot and sometimes makes me reboot my PC just to recover the usage of my PC... I realize it was meant to work in Mac OS, but the fact still stands that it SUCKS for Windows

Been fine for me. I've transfered like 30+GB to my 4th gen and done a lot of maintenance here and ther (playlists etc) and it has been fine.


Battery life isn't the best, but I like it. I like the combination of form and function. It shows me that form does not have to be sacrificed for function...i know I know other players have more features.

My opinion is by nature as biased as yours, as I am clearly spelling out that it is an opinion, and IMHO, most other players are hideous. The Ipod isn't perfect.

In the end, it does what I need it to do well.



<---engineering student, if that makes a difference.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Gurck
Look & feel are subjective.

Then says:

Originally posted by: Gurck
Other downsides to it are low sound quality

clearly "low sound quality" is a subjective comment. It may not have sound quality that is rated as high as some other mp3 players, but to say that the quality is actually "low" is quite subjective.

Actually sound quality is a measure of how accurately a device reproduces audio, and so not subjective. Since iPods have extremely high THD and attenuate the bass range, they don't reproduce music very accurately. Text. "Low" is in comparison to other players, and not a subjective term in the context I used it.

ignore the biased fools who don't know what they're talking about.

Excellent advice

 

[metalmania]

Someone says ipod is smaller than a Zen, but I see many ppl have the ipod with a plastic or glass case. The ipod with case, is heavy and big, even bigger than a Zen. So what's the point here? Why not just use it as it is? Cannot afford to scratch the sexy surface?

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Gurck
Look & feel are subjective.

Then says:

Originally posted by: Gurck
Other downsides to it are low sound quality

clearly "low sound quality" is a subjective comment. It may not have sound quality that is rated as high as some other mp3 players, but to say that the quality is actually "low" is quite subjective.

Actually sound quality is a measure of how accurately a device reproduces audio, and so not subjective. Since iPods have extremely high THD and attenuate the bass range, they don't reproduce music very accurately. Text. "Low" is in comparison to other players, and not a subjective term in the context I used it.

Did you even read the information in the link you provided? There is nothing in there that supports your subjective comment about the iPod's sound quality. Try again genius.

 

[Gurck]

I read it. You obviously didn't (likely couldn't). Also find it quite ironic that someone whose username is an Apple advertisement would suggest listening to unbiased information sources while calling factual information subjective... are you trying to look stupid, or is it just happening naturally?

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Gurck
I read it. You obviously didn't (likely couldn't). Also find it quite ironic that someone whose username is an Apple advertisement would suggest listening to unbiased information sources while calling factual information subjective... are you trying to look stupid, or is it just happening naturally?

I read the link and the iPod got good reviews, especially considering the high-quality headphones that it comes with. That, plus the fact that it's the #1 selling hd-based mp3 player shows how subjective your comments really are. Let me be even more clear... "low quality" was a subjective comment... "quality that isn't as good" would not be subjective.

I shouldn't bother answering to your personal attacks involving my user name, but I'll bite anyway since I won't let you undermine my posts.
1. I joined in December of 2000, the reasons why I chose my user name then hardly reflect my opinions 3.5 years later.
2. I have stated many times that I use a Windows-based computer. (aka no Macs).

 

[welst10]

Anyway, I did my research and bought a Creative Zen Touch 20GB, Fedex just left it at my door an hour ago. Can't wait to go home.

 

[DaWhim]

my mp3 player last about 24hours non stop playing.

 

[metalmania]

My friend just switched to Zen after two years ipod life. He is happy now.

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Did you even read the information in the link you provided? There is nothing in there that supports your subjective comment about the iPod's sound quality.

Might try reading a few of the linked data/observations/measurements mentioned in the article (the link to the "Measurements" section, and the link to the iPodlounge forum). Quoted from the above referenced article:

"Measurements show that one of the problems is lack of bass using normal 30 Ohm headphones (e.g. like the one supplied with the iPod !!!!). Because the line output seems to have a decent quality without these problems, the harsh sound is obviously caused by the headphones output. I'm wondering how much this has to do with the new electronics of the Wolfson chip, or whether a too low quality/low value capacitor has been applied in the output (220uF as shown by our measurements, and as adviced by Wofson (pdf)). The low value capacitor output could easily be compensated by an equalizer setting (even matched to typical impedances of headphones), but the iPod doesn't allow to download custom equalizer settings, and Apple doesn't provide the right one, which is a missed opportunity. I've posted a message on an iPodlounge forum, asking people to report about the issue, so that Apple takes the problem seriously, and solves it by an obvious patch in a new version of their Software Updater.

Another problem could be bad design of power supplies, crosstalk due to PCB design, or use of bad components. This might induce intermodulation distortion, which is hard to prevent.

Matching the iPod with a pair of suitable (read warmer sounding) headphones compensates a bit for this phenomenon, but doesn't solve it."

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: metalmania
My friend just switched to Zen after two years ipod life. He is happy now.

did he get a Zen Touch or Zen Xtra?

 

[metalmania]

a Zen touch. He got 26 hrs battery life also.

 

[0roo0roo]

1.5 hours is absurd. i think your forgetting to charge it. or its a dud.

 

[ironcrotch]

i swear i think we have an ipod thread every 2.5 days

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Did you even read the information in the link you provided? There is nothing in there that supports your subjective comment about the iPod's sound quality.

Might try reading a few of the linked data/observations/measurements mentioned in the article (the link to the "Measurements" section, and the link to the iPodlounge forum). Quoted from the above referenced article:

"Measurements show that one of the problems is lack of bass using normal 30 Ohm headphones (e.g. like the one supplied with the iPod !!!!). Because the line output seems to have a decent quality without these problems, the harsh sound is obviously caused by the headphones output. I'm wondering how much this has to do with the new electronics of the Wolfson chip, or whether a too low quality/low value capacitor has been applied in the output (220uF as shown by our measurements, and as adviced by Wofson (pdf)). The low value capacitor output could easily be compensated by an equalizer setting (even matched to typical impedances of headphones), but the iPod doesn't allow to download custom equalizer settings, and Apple doesn't provide the right one, which is a missed opportunity. I've posted a message on an iPodlounge forum, asking people to report about the issue, so that Apple takes the problem seriously, and solves it by an obvious patch in a new version of their Software Updater.

Another problem could be bad design of power supplies, crosstalk due to PCB design, or use of bad components. This might induce intermodulation distortion, which is hard to prevent.

Matching the iPod with a pair of suitable (read warmer sounding) headphones compensates a bit for this phenomenon, but doesn't solve it."

Except one does not base sound quality entirely on bass response, especially on a portable device. When I went to the link, I went straight to the magazine reviews that had overall ratings of the iPod's sound vs. other players.

Stereoplay Magazine:
37 rating for iRiver and 33 rating for iPod
CHIP Magazine:
100 rating for Creative and 89 rating for iPod. This is score is reversed when stock headphones are used.

I'm very curious as to how the 4th generation iPod performs, considering the reviews there were all with the 3rd gen.

 

[Paulson]

I've had mine 8 months and it still holds a fairly decent charge (about 6 hours)

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: metalmania
a Zen touch. He got 26 hrs battery life also.

cool. several users on amazon verified the 24hr battery life to be true too.

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
When I went to the link, I went straight to the magazine reviews that had overall ratings of the iPod's sound vs. other players.

Thus admitting you did not read the information presented. There is actually quite a bit of it there (most of it quite interesting, and pertaining to the sound quality), and doubt it could have been read in the five minutes between the time the link was originally posted, and the time your next response (claiming to have read it) occured.

 

[Legendary]

Everyone says iTunes is buggy/doesn't do the iPod well. I've never had a problem with it in either department - it simply does everything flawlessly.
Maybe I'm just a lucky one.
P.S. my iPod battery lasts about 9-10 hours too - I guess I am lucky there as well.

 

[nortexoid]

i bought mine when there weren't really any good alternatives. i was looking for the most portable hdd player on the market, and ipod fit the bill. if i had to buy the player all over again, i wouldn't. it's a decent player, but the battery BLOWS extreme-sized testicles. it can't sort by directory tree structure, and requires 3rd party software to transfer music to it which is also not-so-awesome.

 

[upsciLLion]

I like my iPod.

 

[TwiceOver]

20+ hours with my Dell DJ. No possible way I could live with only 4 or less hours.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

You're talking 3rd gen ipods though. 4th gen lasts quite a bit longer.

 

[nortexoid]

"quite a bit"...it's using the same crap battery and the extension to battery life isn't massive. after a year, u might be seein a dismal 8hrs vs. 5hrs.