Any news on AGP upgrades?

[Chosonman]

Anyone have news on any new AGP that might come out.

It sux that there are no 7800GT or 7800GTX for AGP.

 

[theMan]

nope. the 6800gs was supposed to be, but they crippled it.

 

[apoppin]

so far, the only certainty we have is the x1700 AGP series from ATi - released in 3 weeks - should be a BIG improvement over the "new" 1600xt [which is an improvement over the 'old' 128bit x1600xt].

 

[otispunkmeyer]

yeh....go PCI-E

i wouldnt hold your breath for 7800's on AGP. the last AGP release from Nv ..... well it hasnt happened yet. the 6800GS is the latest AGP card released and at the moment its shaping up to be a non-start. 6800gt and 6800u are better than it too

your best bet is to simply either buy used 6800GT/Ultra or buy an X850XT

or like apoppin says....wait to see how ATI's new X1700 shapes up

 

[HostofFun]

Yep, if you're trying to stick with AGP, an X850XT or 6800U/GT are likely going to be your best options.

 

[Killrose]

No more AGP for the high-end, only mid-tier unfortunately.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Killrose
ProbablyNo more AGP for the high-end, only mid-tier unfortunately.

fixed

"unless there is demand"

 

[Chosonman]

If you demand it they will come....

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Originally posted by: Chosonman
If you demand it they will come....

That's the problem. Isn't there some statistic (reliable or not) that figures 70% of all PC's are still using AGP?

I'm sure there are more AGP users on these boards that PCI-Express heads. And this is an enthusiast's site, right?

There is plenty demand and they've responded with 6800GS and X1600s. :disgust:

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Killrose
ProbablyNo more AGP for the high-end, only mid-tier unfortunately.

fixed

"unless there is demand"

If there was demand it would have showed up by now. Everyday people upgrade and everyday AGP becomes less of the market.

 

[RussianSensation]

70% of AGP users are not gamers. I think that user demand for high-end agp cards like 7800 series might not actually be that large. Most gamers who want to spend $300+ on a graphics card probably already switched to PCIe. This would somewhat explain the reasoning for lack of high-end AGP cards since demand might not be as large as we think. Also, when a user switches to PCIe, Nvidia benefits from a likely sale of NF4 motherboard.

P4 users with northwoods and prescotts will be looking to switch over for 64-bit support by the end of 2006 for Vista. They might not justify spending $300 on a 7800 series AGP card for 1 year of gaming (but who knows). Who really got left out are S754 users with AGP cards and A64 3000+ or greater CPUs.

 

[Eureka]

Problem is with some of us is that we can't just magically UPGRADE to a PCI-e board. I'm still using a s478 board, and there's no PCI-e board for that (that I know of). If I want to upgrade to PCI-e, I'd need to change the processor, and then I'd have to upgrade the RAM too... mm I love my x850xt though.

Norm

 

[Zimdesign]

Who really got left out are S754 users with AGP cards and A64 3000+ or greater CPUs.

Like me

 

[Extelleron]

I highly doubt we will ever see another high-end AGP card, but I know if one came out I would buy it. nVidia seems to have abandoned AGP altogether, even with the 6800GS it has lower clockspeeds than the PCI-E version for no reason (other than to make PCI-E look better), and the same is with the 6600GT AGP (900 MHz memory vs 1000 MHz w/ PCI-E). I plan on buying an X850XT, but with the X1900XT w/ 48 pipelines around the corner, I dont know how long the X850 series will last me.

 

[Chosonman]

If ATI supported high end AGP I would jump on their band wagon faster than you could say "lickidy split"

 

[Steve]

Too much of the market is flooded with PCI-E systems from Dell, HP, etc.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Thing is, those looking to buy bleeding edge probably will not have AGP. They've since moved on to PCI-e.

 

[Chosonman]

I guess if I really had to I could spend an extra $80 and buy a socket 754 Nforce4 MOBO and a new graphics card... but that would seem like such a wast of parts I'd rather buy a whole new system.

 

[ub3rnewb]

Originally posted by: cevilgenius
Problem is with some of us is that we can't just magically UPGRADE to a PCI-e board. I'm still using a s478 board, and there's no PCI-e board for that (that I know of). If I want to upgrade to PCI-e, I'd need to change the processor, and then I'd have to upgrade the RAM too... mm I love my x850xt though.

Norm

Actually, there are S478 PCI-Express boards, however rare they may be.

Albatron PX915P4C Pro being an example.
-Used to be on Newegg, but not there any more.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
70% of AGP users are not gamers. I think that user demand for high-end agp cards like 7800 series might not actually be that large. Most gamers who want to spend $300+ on a graphics card probably already switched to PCIe. This would somewhat explain the reasoning for lack of high-end AGP cards since demand might not be as large as we think. Also, when a user switches to PCIe, Nvidia benefits from a likely sale of NF4 motherboard.

P4 users with northwoods and prescotts will be looking to switch over for 64-bit support by the end of 2006 for Vista. They might not justify spending $300 on a 7800 series AGP card for 1 year of gaming (but who knows). Who really got left out are S754 users with AGP cards and A64 3000+ or greater CPUs.

I am one of them however made the choice to wait until the next generation comes out and upgrade to a DC CPU.

S754 was for the most part a budget platform that managed to get some A64 love. Not many big time gamers in 06 will be using a S754 as their platform of choice when building.

 

[Chosonman]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
70% of AGP users are not gamers. I think that user demand for high-end agp cards like 7800 series might not actually be that large. Most gamers who want to spend $300+ on a graphics card probably already switched to PCIe. This would somewhat explain the reasoning for lack of high-end AGP cards since demand might not be as large as we think. Also, when a user switches to PCIe, Nvidia benefits from a likely sale of NF4 motherboard.

P4 users with northwoods and prescotts will be looking to switch over for 64-bit support by the end of 2006 for Vista. They might not justify spending $300 on a 7800 series AGP card for 1 year of gaming (but who knows). Who really got left out are S754 users with AGP cards and A64 3000+ or greater CPUs.

I am one of them however made the choice to wait until the next generation comes out and upgrade to a DC CPU.

S754 was for the most part a budget platform that managed to get some A64 love. Not many big time gamers in 06 will be using a S754 as their platform of choice when building.

I can't say that S754 is that much of a dead end. I managed to get the 3000 for $150 over a year ago and upgrade that to a 3400 for $20 more, just wish they had the NF4 Mobo for S754 when I bought my MOBO, otherwise I'd be hunky dory right now.

 

[rancherlee]

just one faster AGP car would be nice THEN the whole X800XT/X850XT AGP card would come down to match there PCIe counterparts. That being said, with a 19" lcd being capped at 1280x1024 I'm good to go for another year or so with my X800XT AIW.

 

[CKXP]

s754 has plenty of life in it, and will be around for a while

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and here

sli mobo