Any iMac users here?
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Well, it really depends on what type of applications you'll be running. As a Mac user, I'll still be one of the first to say that a similarly-equipped PC is going to be significantly cheaper and will also be considerably easier to upgrade (especially if the iMac is in question; not too much you're gonna add to a 2" thick little box).
Now, there are two main reasons I'm a Mac user: 1) I'm in love with Mac OS X and 2) The majority of the video editing and other software I use is only written for the Mac. But I still own both a PC and Mac because frankly, gaming on the Mac is pretty shoddy.
Now, there are two main reasons I'm a Mac user: 1) I'm in love with Mac OS X and 2) The majority of the video editing and other software I use is only written for the Mac. But I still own both a PC and Mac because frankly, gaming on the Mac is pretty shoddy.
why i 'mac':
1) os x
2) im not playing games
3) i dont need to upgrade
daily i love using a mac for: aim, mail, browsing
somebody posting "macs suxorz" in 4..3..2..
1) os x
2) im not playing games
3) i dont need to upgrade
daily i love using a mac for: aim, mail, browsing
somebody posting "macs suxorz" in 4..3..2..
http://www.theimac.com/
My college campus had iMacs in all the libraries. Although I think they're one of the gayest rigs out there, they're pretty solid especially for the casual computer user.
My college campus had iMacs in all the libraries. Although I think they're one of the gayest rigs out there, they're pretty solid especially for the casual computer user.
this is for Erasmus-X or deathkoba or any other Mac user. I'm also like Kinesis who is thinking about getting the new iMac. I been a PC using all my life, but im almost to the halfway mark in college, im a graphic design student in an art school. i don't really know anything about Macs and i want to know what do you guys think about the new iMac compared to the regular G5. I know it isn't as fast, but is the difference that much?
the main reason i don't like Mac's is the OS, i feel dumb but i don't get it, its so simple i don't like it, i feel restricted about configuration and customizability.
the main reason i don't like Mac's is the OS, i feel dumb but i don't get it, its so simple i don't like it, i feel restricted about configuration and customizability.
Here's my followup..
I use both and technically ambidextrous with both. Which do I prefer? PC. Why?
Just about everything feels so much 'snappier' and things seem to get done quicker, even on a PC with lower specs (assuming it's well kept) Problems on a PC are so much easier to pinpoint and with proper precautions, you can avoid problems altogether. Not so on the Mac. Preferences getting corrupt quite often, having to reset PRAM for any reason, resetting my OS X password because the stupid system forgot it somehow, resetting permissions because again the stupid system forgot, the keyboard is a fvckin TOOL and a half (although I admit that the old Apple Design ADB keyboards were da bomb)...what else..oh yea, the 1 button mouse where I'd have to cntrl click if I want a contextual menu. Sometimes the system would get messed up in such a way that I cannot resolve the issue. The neverending spinning beachball. I see that thing way too often even after a fresh reinstallation of the OS. Some websites actually do not function properly without IE for Windows (arrgh!) and browsing is heck of a lot slower on the Mac no matter how high the specs are on the same line, preventing me from efficient research. Here's a big one..exporting mail settings, address books and data are near impossible without the use of 3rd party utilities that does a hack job at extracting data from mail preference databases. Why is that? The Export function is extremely limited in OE for 9.x and there's NONE for Apple's Mail.app. Entourage isn't so bad but I've run into a few bugs on it as well and again it's export functions are not as complete as the Win OE functions. These are just a tiny bit of a huge chunk of my pet peeves with the Mac and that's enough to sway me into using a PC more. Let's not even get into the whole hardware upgrading discussion and OS 9, which freezes the system 5 or 6 times a day easily. There are a lot of weird stuff that needs patience and finnessing to get working on a Mac, which is guesswork, which takes up my freakin time.
Some of the things I do like about the Mac and OS X is the smoothness of the user inputs. The mouse flows as if there's infinite resolution and it's never 'jumpy' like on a PC. Clicking and dragging windows somehow feel smoother. (unless the system is running a process that's pretty heavy..then the window dragging becomes annoyingly slow and jumpy) Viruses and spyware are about as common as Mac applications although my browsing habits do not attract viruses on the PC either. Macs seem to parse international text encoding a bit better. There are also a few applications which I'd love to be ported to Windows..such as Final Cut Pro and...that's about it for now.
Networking on a Mac in a mixed enviroment with a Windows server is such a pain in the azz as well. SMB support is basically an incomplete hack job that rarely works right. Appletalk works great but is rather slow. Defrag? What's defrag?
Basically I work more efficiently in Windows XP than anything else, not because I'm used to it, because I've thoroughly used both for many years (about 8 years) and that's what I find honestly. My applications run better and faster on the PC. (Nuendo 2
What kind of user am I? I'm more of a creative guy than a tech geek although my main job is tech supporting small businesses as a freelancer. On the side, I record music (both live and midi programmed) sometimes for pay but mostly for myself. Also do digital imaging work for clients and a whole bunch of other stuff like assisting in productions etc. Rarely play games. Most Mac users would say that everything I do would work much better on the Mac. Well I don't find that to be true at all. Anyway, that's my unbiased and honest report of my experiences. Hope it helps.
I use both and technically ambidextrous with both. Which do I prefer? PC. Why?
Just about everything feels so much 'snappier' and things seem to get done quicker, even on a PC with lower specs (assuming it's well kept) Problems on a PC are so much easier to pinpoint and with proper precautions, you can avoid problems altogether. Not so on the Mac. Preferences getting corrupt quite often, having to reset PRAM for any reason, resetting my OS X password because the stupid system forgot it somehow, resetting permissions because again the stupid system forgot, the keyboard is a fvckin TOOL and a half (although I admit that the old Apple Design ADB keyboards were da bomb)...what else..oh yea, the 1 button mouse where I'd have to cntrl click if I want a contextual menu. Sometimes the system would get messed up in such a way that I cannot resolve the issue. The neverending spinning beachball. I see that thing way too often even after a fresh reinstallation of the OS. Some websites actually do not function properly without IE for Windows (arrgh!) and browsing is heck of a lot slower on the Mac no matter how high the specs are on the same line, preventing me from efficient research. Here's a big one..exporting mail settings, address books and data are near impossible without the use of 3rd party utilities that does a hack job at extracting data from mail preference databases. Why is that? The Export function is extremely limited in OE for 9.x and there's NONE for Apple's Mail.app. Entourage isn't so bad but I've run into a few bugs on it as well and again it's export functions are not as complete as the Win OE functions. These are just a tiny bit of a huge chunk of my pet peeves with the Mac and that's enough to sway me into using a PC more. Let's not even get into the whole hardware upgrading discussion and OS 9, which freezes the system 5 or 6 times a day easily. There are a lot of weird stuff that needs patience and finnessing to get working on a Mac, which is guesswork, which takes up my freakin time.
Some of the things I do like about the Mac and OS X is the smoothness of the user inputs. The mouse flows as if there's infinite resolution and it's never 'jumpy' like on a PC. Clicking and dragging windows somehow feel smoother. (unless the system is running a process that's pretty heavy..then the window dragging becomes annoyingly slow and jumpy) Viruses and spyware are about as common as Mac applications although my browsing habits do not attract viruses on the PC either. Macs seem to parse international text encoding a bit better. There are also a few applications which I'd love to be ported to Windows..such as Final Cut Pro and...that's about it for now.
Networking on a Mac in a mixed enviroment with a Windows server is such a pain in the azz as well. SMB support is basically an incomplete hack job that rarely works right. Appletalk works great but is rather slow. Defrag? What's defrag?
Basically I work more efficiently in Windows XP than anything else, not because I'm used to it, because I've thoroughly used both for many years (about 8 years) and that's what I find honestly. My applications run better and faster on the PC. (Nuendo 2
What kind of user am I? I'm more of a creative guy than a tech geek although my main job is tech supporting small businesses as a freelancer. On the side, I record music (both live and midi programmed) sometimes for pay but mostly for myself. Also do digital imaging work for clients and a whole bunch of other stuff like assisting in productions etc. Rarely play games. Most Mac users would say that everything I do would work much better on the Mac. Well I don't find that to be true at all. Anyway, that's my unbiased and honest report of my experiences. Hope it helps.
Icy, if you're thinking about using these machines for work of any kind, as a student or a pro, I'd suggest you get the PowerMac and not the iMac. That's just my gut feeling as a Mac user : )
Originally posted by: Budman
Yes I can afford a sense of humor since I paid a lot less for my pc.
I almost laughed there...
Anytime. Just so you know, I honestly stated my true experiences on the platforms and haven't exaggerated anything as a religiously brainwashed Mac/PC user would. If you'd like more info, feel free to ask via PM or posting on this thread. I'll keep an eye out.
The new imac looks pretty cool. I'm also amazed that Apple is the only maker out there that I know of that has all 64bit systems in their main product lines.
jdogg707
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Here's my experience with my Powerbook.
Why I bought it...
I decided to get a Powerbook over a PC laptop because I wasn't going to be using it for games and I wanted something that not only had a nice layout keyboard wise, but also a large screen and was very thin. The 15" Powerbook met all of my requirements, and after spending an hour with one at the Apple Store, I knew it would work for what I wanted. All said and done, using the ADC Student discount I was able to get my PB (See Sig for details) for about $2K.
Why I love my Mac...
The machine is great. It looks great, feels very well built, and is the perfect size/weight for me to travel with. Mac OS X is by far the best OS I have ever used due to the simplicity that it allows a novice user and the way it can be transformed by a more proficient user into whatever you want it to be. I do not have to worry about crashes or defragmenting or Registry files or Viruses or Spyware or deleted system files or anything else that pissed me off about Windows. OS X does its own maintenance which keeps it speedy, and every once in a while you can go repair permissions if you feel things bogging down. The machine just works, period. I don't have to restart because I install this, or because the machine is acting funny, OS X gets the job done and doesn't need me to pickup anything it missed. OS X is also very organized, everything on your machine can be found in a matter of seconds, especially with tools like QuickSilver, or by going to the finder and locating it. The Dock is great for quick access to programs or files you run often. The machine is also very secure, without my needing to add any extra software to make it that way. The Unix side keeps hackers at bay and the OS X firewall is much easier to configure and more robust than Microsoft's included Windows Firewall.
What I miss about a PC...
I have stopped using my PC. I sold the parts and am enjoying my Mac for a while. The only thing I miss about the PC is gaming, but I figure that being in school, I really should be focusing more on getting things done than playing HL2 or Doom 3 (Even though my Xbox does keep me from comlete gaming withdrawl).
What I would recommend...
If you haven't already, go to an Apple store and experience a Mac. The iMac is going to be on the lower end, even with the new upgrade to a G5 processor, when compared to the Power Mac. Make sure you get lots of RAM and everything you want when you buy it, because upgrading that machine may prove to be a PITA later on. If you don't mind giving up gaming, get the Mac, you won't be disspointed. But if you game, or use programs that are windows only, you may want to get a PC.
Good Luck...
I will add:
OS 9 sucks. But you will never have to use it.
I have had my machine for almost 5 months and have never had to set the PRAM.
I have left my PB on for 45 days at a time with no slow down, no problems, and no crashes. I restarted because of the install of Os X 10.3.5
Relax jdogg, you've only had it for 4 months. The fun starts when you hit Apple's built in 1 year time bomb.
I have toyed seriously with the idea of getting a new PowerMac, but the big lag in game releases, if they ever do port to the Mac from the PC, is just keeping me from doing it. Have an Ipod, a 23 inch Apple cinema display and they are awesome product and the Mac is too. BUT, the gaming thing is really stopping me....
Many Mac users will give you this:
"Gaming shouldn't be done on a computer, get a console for that. I get real work done on a Mac."
"Gaming shouldn't be done on a computer, get a console for that. I get real work done on a Mac."
jdogg707
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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Relax jdogg, you've only had it for 4 months. The fun starts when you hit Apple's built in 1 year time bomb.
I don't get this either, my uncle has had a G4 450 PowerMac for 4 years and not one issue. I guess it's like everything else, there are bad apples in every bunch...
Originally posted by: jdogg707
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Relax jdogg, you've only had it for 4 months. The fun starts when you hit Apple's built in 1 year time bomb.
not one issue.
I find that too hard to believe. Believe it or not, most of my friends have Macs and they always nag me to fix problems. Want to know how many Macs I've owned in my life?
PM6100, PB1400CS, PM7200, PM7500, G4 400, G4 1.25 and an iMac DV SE. Don't tell me that G4 had no problems.
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