Any Honda Car enthusiasts?

[ElFenix]

type r: .88g on the skidpad
trans am: .87g on the skidpad

looks like they both can take turns really fast. and the 'bird can accelerate out of them faster

 

[kumanchu]

skidpad numbers are decieving. hehe. TRUST ME, try autocrossing in an a big american style sports car like the trans am, and then take it again in a type r. i'll bet 100bux that the type r will come out faster. i do autocross and road race events, and the trans am is nary to be found at courses, while its not uncommon to find a type r. i wonder why?

 

[The LIdless Eye]

You guys can take your NSX. For that much money, I'll take an M5 and smoke your ass (yes,
another V8).

I made the comparison with the type-r for $$$ reasons (duh).

Also, while my formula might not last as long (gee, only 118k on it now), but it AIN'T
the engine thats gonna go.

 

[Cpt. Duke]

kumanchu, good point. Example-- the old Porsche 914s. Ugly as hell, with basically a souped-up VW engine, but they can handle the curves like nobody's business. I would bet they could the Trans-Am up a windy mountain road...

 

[Ferocious]

Civics are mostly junk.

Accords aren't too bad, but their are better cars to choose from.

 

[-SpYrL-]

Who cares if you get 100,000mpg if you have no performance. Performance is a lot more important than the gas mileage as far as I care.

 

[DataFly]

-SpYrL-, who cares if you can get to 60MPH from 0 in 3 seconds if you use an entire tank of gas in the process?

 

[Viperoni]

<< why not? if the design of the engine is superior, who cares if it's running at higher rpms? >>



Give me 2 identical engines.
Make one rev at 2400rpm and the other at 3500rpm.
Which ones gonna last longer?





<< Let's be honest, most American cars can hit 100,000 - 150,000 miles, while most Japanese can go from 150,000 to 200,000, and many German/Swedish cars can go even higher. Why is this? Better design. >>



Considering that my 1986 Pontiac is still running super smooth at 180k, you're trying to imply my engine was somehow made by Honda? I think not.

Let's look at it from your perspective:
How many 15 year old Honda's get 24+mpg on the highway pushing 75mph steady?
Cuz my Pontiac does that no problem.
Of course it sucks in city driving, heck, any car that weighs 4000+ pounds sucks in city mileage.
But Honda's weight like 2500lb's, dont they?

 

[Cpt. Duke]

ElFenix -- I agree the Northstar engine is a nice product. However, I wouldn't want it over a Lexus or Infinity V8.

Also, about the fuel economy of the Firebird, check out this Car and Driver observed fuel economy -- 18 mpg. That's a little more accurate than the EPA's numbers of 18/26...


Oh, and when I said my bit about how long cars last, that's not anecdotal but based on personal experience. My old beast of a Volvo currently has around 247,000, and my parents two old Mercedes are each over 200,000. For our company we have had many American cars, trucks and vans which hit about 150,000 before something blows. As for the length of time for Japanese cars that's based on what my friends have driven...


Viperoni -- I would say that an old Honda would get better economy than a Sunbird, even at 75. And with new ones, there's no contest, thanks to the beauty of VTEC and 4 valves a cylinder.

 

[StageLeft]

Everybody _knows_ that imports last longer than domestics. This is part of the reason why resale value on domestics blows ass. Domestics make up a good percentage of cars in my area but when you look at cars made before the 90's that are still on the roads suddenly domestics are a much smaller percentage around here...

 

[Viperoni]

I dunno what you're talking about, but take a look around Niagara Falls, USA, and you'll see way more older domestics than imports.
But they're usually rusted to bits, running and moving (somehow), but rusted

 

[StageLeft]

Well we get a stiff winter every year...considering my neighbor's '95 cavalier already has a wicked rust spot emerging over the rear wheel well I'd say he got kinda screwed!