Any help out there for IDE problem???

ajf3

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Hi all,

I'm running into a goofy problem & I was hoping that someone may have a tip or two for me... I'm trying to set up a BookPC (BKS630 - intel 810 I believe) that has one IDE channel built into the mobo. It supports ata66 and has the appropriate cable.

I'm trying to put a 3.8G maxtor pio4 as master and an ata33 dvd as slave. The HD is pinned as master and the dvd is pinned as slave. During post the HD is always detected - the dvd is detected most of the time and identifed correctly - when it doesn't work - I get a bunch of goofy ascii chars instead of ide-dvd 2x...

On the summary screen you get after the post - the HD is always listed correctly. The DVD is either listed correctly, or it's blank (goofy chars don't follow through to here).

Regardless of whether it's been detected during post or not, when I go into the bios setup - the slave is listed as "none". When I try to auto detect it in there it doesn't work. Basically, the post can see it sometimes, but the bios config can't???

Either way - if it's detected good during post and summary, or if it's not I have trouble with accessing the dvd. If I boot to DOS, I can do a DIR on the drive (if detected), but trying to copy files gives me a cdr101 or cdr102 error. In windows, the dvd isn't accessable at all from the system (even if it was detected).

I've swapped the dvd with a 48xcdrom that I have with the same results. Both the cdrom and dvd work on my other system.

I've tried a normal (non ata66) cable, but the same stuff happens.

I've tried setting the dvd to CS instead of SL, no change.

Installing this stuff has always been a no-brainer before, so I'm not really sure what to do now that I'm having a problem with it.

Thanks!!!
 

stevel114

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Hi,
Odds are good the problem is the HD is having a problem working with DVD (ones old and ones newer). Remember the master IDE device is being used as the controller for the slave. Try just setting the CDROM to auto, don't worry if it doesn't detect it as a CDROM. Set the Master to auto also, don't detect the HD either. See if that works. If not try setting the Maxtor to the single setting and see if the cdrom is detected during boot. Again if probably not going to work as long as you have old technology controlling newer technology. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. Another solution would be to try another brand of hard drive or just get a new hard drive. Good luck.

SL
 

NelsonMuntz

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Just a guess, but it sounds like a loose/bad cable. Have you tried a different cable. Also, the BIOS config is designed to auto detect hard drives, so if an option is available to tell it that it is a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM, that might take care of that particular issue. Stevel's got some good ideas up there. Listen to him.
 

md300

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il and check the cables may have to add another controller , a last ditch thing
 

ajf3

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Thanks for the tips guys... I tried a new cable earlier, but it didn't help. I'm going to try setting the HD to single for kicks, but I don't really expect much.

I'm thinking the most likely explanation is that the PIO4 HD is too old to control the newer ATA33 cdrom/dvdrom drives... unfortunately, this tiny bookPc has only one IDE channel and no PCI slots, so I guess it's a new HD for me.

Unless... is there anyway that I could put the DVD as master and the HD as slave & still have windows boot from the HD? Probably not, but worth asking about ;)

Later!
 

ajf3

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Ok... Setting the drive(s) to CS didn't work either - just bought a udma/33 and should have it in a few days... hopefully that will work.

 

ajf3

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Hmm... just realized something. I had the drive set as master and the cdrom set as slave on my old P150 micron system w/o any problems. Given that, could the drive controlling the cdrom still be the problem because of the different (award modular 6.00pg) bios in the new pc?
 

ajf3

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Thanks for all the help - just to close this thread out... I installed the ata33 drive and all works well now! On my old p150 I had the pio4 master with the ata33 cd slave & it worked - with this mobo I needed an ata33 master in order to get the ata33 cd working - go figure!

Anyway, thanks again!