Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Ruger and light don't belong in the same sentance.
a 9mm is plenty for CC. a P89 is a good gun if you get some rubber grips for it.
I had a p89 and it was a reliable good shooter. Ruger semi-autos are definatly a good bargin for the price.
I've heard stories of guys getting hit multiple times with 9mm and living. Remember, you don't shoot to wound, you shoot to kill. If the criminal lives, he may just live to sue your ass for shooting him.
fvck then, might as well go for a .50 cal desert eagle right?
Nope, those are extremely impracticle. They are not only tough to handel and shoot, but they actually don't stop as well as a .45 round because the bullets generally go right through the target. If you're looking for stopping power with magnum rounds, go with a .357, it's the perfect balance.
I don't know who told you that. The .50 AE is only going 1400fps. Now, no doubt that's a good deal faster than a .45 ACPs 800-900fps, but it's also a wider bullet. A Speer Gold Dot 300 grain .50 AE wouldn't go right through a person. It would hurt them severely.
But a Desert Eagle is terribly impractical and expensive, as are the other weapons chambered in .50 AE.
Other things:
A 9mm will kill someone just as well as a .45.
Ruger's are cheap junk, IMO. Unreliable and ugly.
Ruger's are ugly I agree. Not cheap junk though, not at all. I had a P90 I have since sold , that had around 20k rounds through it, with the original barrel. Great gun, never a problem. If I could pick another one up at a price that made sense I'd do it.
The closest thing to a Ruger with looks is the 345.
side note- it always cracks me up when you people talk about the effectiveness of one caliber over another, like any of you truly know what you are talking about besides what you read after some jello test was conducted. The 9mm round is a great round, and if any of you think it won't stop someone, take a well placed one for the team. Let's see if you can post the results.
BTW... getting shot in the chest is not always a game over event no matter if it's a .357, 9mm, .357 SIG, .40, .45 or anything else. There is a lot tissue mass and bone in the chest, and unless you tag a vital organ AND damage that organ it may not be game over.
If I were new to handguns and looking for one, I'd get a 9mm to start. Learn it. No one can pick up a gun and just shoot it effectively right away, much less if their life depended on it. 9mm is a caliber where you can put a lot of rounds out cheaply while you learn.
If I were you I'd look at a P90 if you had to have a Ruger. In 9mm I own a Sig P226 (one of the best 9mm made, period), and a Glock 22 fitted with a 9mm interchangeable barrel.
I'd recommend the Sig 226, Glock 17, 19 or Springfiled XD9. The Beretta 92FS is a nice gun as well, but maybe a bit too finicky for a newb. If you are into nostalgia and don't mind paying a premium a Browning HiPower is a good choice as well. Some of the S&W pieces that NYPD uses (in 9mm for all you toolbox naysayers) model 4506 I believe would be a fine choice too.
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