Any glue that can form a Instant bond in 0F temps?

[Elixer]

I need to bond metal to metal, and all the glues I have tried have failed, so, does anyone know of any glue that can have a instant bond on metal to metal in very cold temps?
It is up about 10' high as well. That is why I need to form a instant bond, I can't be up there for long.

Tried superglue, polyurethane glue, and those have failed.
No, I can't weld it, nor can I use duct tape or something else that covers up the metal letters.

 

[mxnerd]

CA (Cyanoacrylate) glue?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Instantb...-Activator-Spray-100-400-ml-100-400/203082931

Data sheet

http://www.instantbond.com/downloads/TECHNICALDATASHEET.pdf

 

[Crono]

Maybe Loctite epoxy, but never used outside in that temp before.

 

[Mayne]

i'm only familiar with epoxy glues for concrete work and bolts.

 

[Fardringle]

Loctite Metal/Concrete Epoxy says that it will set in five minutes in a temperature range of -10F to +120F. Not instant, but at least it's not 30+ minutes..

 

[deadlyapp]

Have you used an epoxy glue like JB weld? They have one that has a one minute set time which seems reasonable.

 

[Imp]

No clue but wonder if something that's UV cured would work.

 

[TonyG]

How about hot glue?
You could also try using two separate glues, maybe super glue with a spray of insta-set to have an immediate bond around the edges to hold the part in place while a stronger glue/epoxy sets up.

 

[Rifter]

you say you cant weld it, but how about soldering it?

 

[Humpy]

Contact adhesive is instant. So is VHB double sided tape. So is a screw. Maybe just use a sharpie?

 

[Elixer]

Have you used an epoxy glue like JB weld? They have one that has a one minute set time which seems reasonable.

Forgot to mention, I did try this exact glue, and, no dice. The temps are too cold, so it can't get a good exothermic reaction to cure in a reasonable time it seems.

you say you cant weld it, but how about soldering it?

Not really practical, I would need more arms.
Screws and other fasteners are in the same boat, no good access angle.

Contact adhesive is instant. So is VHB double sided tape. So is a screw. Maybe just use a sharpie?

VHB tape needs 20C-40C for best results.
Using a sharpie to draw it on? LOL. I would never hear the end of it.

 

[john3850]

Somehow you need to warm the metal before and during the drying time.
Example a torch,hair dryer,electric water pipe warmer etc.

 

[Anubis]

what exactly do you need to glue

can you get a clamp on it? like a quick release one?

 

[drinkmorejava]

Can you try preheating the metal with a blowtorch? Should stay warm for a short time.

 

[Spacehead]

Can you try preheating the metal with a blowtorch?

Then fix your ingrown toenail while it cures

What kind of glue is used to adhere rearview mirrors to windshields?

 

[Ken g6]

Water?

Or have I been watching too much MacGyver?

 

[Humpy]

Using a sharpie to draw it on? LOL. I would never hear the end of it.

Use one of those fancy gold sharpies!

If anyone gripes just text them a "Deal With It" meme.

 

[Elixer]

what exactly do you need to glue

can you get a clamp on it? like a quick release one?

Basically, it is a snowmobile shaped sign, no way to clamp it, it is powered by solar panels, so no access to electricity (too far out from the nearest place that has power), and the metal letters/numbers need to be specific, since there are other paths with almost the same letter/number, and people would be confused.
It is hard enough towing a ladder to the location as well.
Idiots keep knocking off the temp sign I left up as well.

Dunno if it will work, but, a guy at the store suggested to use those hand warmer packs on the metal, and they try the epoxy.
I don't really want to use heat via welders/torches, since it is difficult to get to the correct angle, and also it would be possible to scorch it, and that would be bad.

 

[mxnerd]

Loctite PL Fast Grab Premium Construction Adhesive, but might need some sort of clamping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQx9SRDAESo

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Too bad, just found that

Application Temperature: The adhesive should be above 41°F (5°C) and below 95°F (35°C) for application

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Maybe

Loctite Power Grab Ultimate

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/tds/PG_CA_ULT_tds.pdf

Substrates must be between 0°F and 100°F (-18°C and 38°C) adhesive must be between 40°F and 140°F (4°C and 60°C)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCxxzmE4u0c

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Loctite Power Grab Heavy Duty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6LhpALvG2A

 

[Red Squirrel]

Putting something made of metal 10 feet high, using adhesive.... sounds dangerous to me. Can't you use screws or something? What exactly are you trying to do?

Maybe really strong neodynium magnets could work as a temporary fix if it's something you'll be able to fix better in summer.

 

[MongGrel]

Loctite has pretty much been an industry standard for adhesives, in military and space applications.

It's a matter of picking the right one I suppose, have been many listed.

 

[mxnerd]

If OP can, sandwich a wooden board between the metal surfaces and use construction adhesive on both sides might have a better chance of success.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Sand with coarse sand paper first too for better adhesion.

I would still look at using some kind of fastner though. Just think of what happens when there are very strong wind bursts.

 

[Rubycon]

Is the metal magnetic?
CA (superglues) can be "kicked" to make them cure instantly even with very liberal amounts applied. I've never tried this in subfreezing temperatures.
Epoxies are absolutely temperature dependent so using them would be about as effective as using a standard lightstick in the same conditions! There are ways to increase the reaction and exothermic output of epoxy curing but the strength is degraded. This is why 5 minute epoxy is considerably weaker than 12 hour epoxy. (times are work times). There are putties that have sufficient viscous characteristics that may hold the parts together long enough without excessive elongation. But if this isn't practical you're going to need an apparatus to maintain the position until curing has commenced with sufficient strength which at low temperatures could be many hours.

Do you have a diagram with dimensions? There's a plethora of ideas to hold the pieces in place while curing or (if allowable) using these methods (malleable alloy crimping, for example) as the permanent solution.

 

[OverVolt]

Use a camping portable torch, gas powered.